peterbkk2

Will travel by taxi from Pattaya to Suvarhaphum airport to catch a flight be considered "essential travel" under the rules?

3 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Thinking of going to TikToc agency today in Jomtien. I’m just worried that even an agency might fail here and I don’t want to risk 15-20k baht if I don’t know if it will work

There are other agents that will charge less and are not worried about circumstances surrounding the lease.

21 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Any particular issues people have had at Jomtien with the non O conversion?

There are some old reports of Jomtien pressuring people to use an agent and giving them the runaround with regards to additional requests for documents. I suggest that you see how you go and hopefully it will be easy.

Just a minor issue but I thought the fee was 2000 baht for a tourist visa/visa exempt conversion to Non-O. 1900 baht is for an extension of stay (which you won't need to do for another three months).

Overall we would be interested to know how you get along with this process at Jomtien. Heard reports that it could be "difficult".

On 12/6/2019 at 4:48 PM, DrJack54 said:

What you outline sounds fine. I must be missing something. Why don't you just use your current pp then apply for new pp here in Thailand prior to it's expiry. Exit country border run and reenter visa exempt. Attend imm and do conversion of ve to non o based on retirement. 

PP from oz takes couple weeks. Not sure about UK.

I need to go back to OZ for personal reasons anyway. So I will apply for a new passport there since I am in Oz anyway and avoid the overseas surcharge for passport renewals.

13 hours ago, digger70 said:

Don't think that you right with this . Normally one can't stay in Thailand After ones Passport expires. 

I done my extension last year and they put the date ending from the extension the day date that my Passport expired that was 2 months before the 12 months extension was expired. so I got a new Passport months before that and my extensions are now from the new date.

I am not on an extension of stay. I am on a permission of stay based on a still-valid OA visa. I agree that extensions of stay are limited to the expiry date of the passport. Permission to stay based on a visa are not.

Hi

Visa: NON O-A   Valid from: 07-JAN-2019 Valid Until: 06-JAN-2020.
Currently in Thailand and have a permission to stay until 24-OCT-2020

Passport expires: 31-AUG-2020

Suppose I get a multiple-entry re-entry permit for my current permission to stay and then I leave Thailand and go back to my home country. I get myself a new passport (which I need to do since it is expiring soon).

I return with a new passport in Feb 2020 and show airport immigration the re-entry permit in my old passport in order to utilize my existing permission to stay. I do that a few times in 2020 until I decide I want to switch to a NON-O by converting from a visa exempt (before 24-OCT-2020).

Can I exit Thailand and re-enter without showing them my re-entry permit in my cancelled passport and get a Visa Exempt? My current passport will at that time have multiple entry stamps marked as NON RE.

Thanks
Peter

5 minutes ago, Travelerusa40 said:

I traveled from the US and my OA Visa was approved 6 Septermber 2019. I arrived in Thailand on 7 November 2019. They said I needed a Foreigen Insurancae Certificate. I said this was not a requirement on 6 November 2019 when i got my OA Visa. They then stamped my visa with a Transit 30 day Visa. I emailed the US Thai Consulate in Washington DC and they were set back and said that they have no control over Bangkok Immigration and I need to go to the Main office in Bangkok and talk to them. Well, I did that and it has been a week. I waited all day and everyone who makes the big decisions where in a meeting about thsi OA Visa Issue specifically like mine. It has been over a week and nothing is happend. I paid $200usd, made apartment lease arrangments, and booked some trips and know I am force out of Thailand in 30 days. It is sad to me me! Congrats on all you others that they did not kick back.

 

Also, this BS about the Foreign Insurance Certificate. What major insurance company is going to have 2 directors sign and stamp this form plus put specific requirement amountss for inpatient and outpaitent. Most if not all, Insurance companies only give you a Standard letter verifying your insurance and will not complete this Thailand form. So, you hare told to buy Thai insurance which is can be $750 a year with $1500usd deductable or $1,000 a year with $400 deductable. The coverage is very low and not quaility insurance. Also, if you got pre-existing problems then for get it you will not get coverage. Also, if you are over 75 your done! Just leave Thailand or don't even apply to come in.

 

Based on the most recent posts, it seems that you can go to the airport and get the stamp fixed to reflect your 12-month entitlement.

It looks to me that you will be on overstay by 1 day (14-FEB-2020). The day of arrival is counted as the first day.

On 11/8/2019 at 10:51 AM, ubonjoe said:

After getting the one year extension of stay a multiple re-entry permit can be applied for (3800 baht fee) that is valid up to the day the extension ends.

OK. But can you also get a re-entry permit for the 90-day Non-O before you apply for the extension of stay?

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

It's NOT three months... It's the standard year. You're missing the difference between the 2019 and 2020 dates in the clip you posted above.

 

That person got his O-A in mid 2019, used it for an entry now later in 2019, and was given a standard one year permission to stay until late 2020 under the terms of his still valid O-A.

 

He was talking about the OA visa picture from the original facebook post. He could not understand why there is only a 3-month validity period between the valid from and valid until dates. 
 

20 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

In your case assuming your permission to stay goes beyond the period of visa validity I think it may be possible to get and use a RE permit. What one cannot do is enter on a RE permit while still holding a valid entry visa.

My permission to stay is until 24 OCT 2020 (1 year from date of entry on OA visa)

9 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Hi PeterBKK2,

From your post it is not 100 % clear whether 06-JAN-2020 is the expiry date of your original OA Visa, or whether it is the last day of your permission to stay (as stamped in your passport).

Presuming that 06-JAN-2020 is the expiry date of your original OA Visa, that would mean you are still in your 1st year of OA Visa validity.  You would therefore need to look what is the last date of your permission to stay (as stamped in your passport during your last entry).

That permission to stay date will by definition be later than your OA Visa validity, as it has been stamped in your passport on (re)-entry in Thailand after the Visa was issued.

a) If that permission to stay date is AFTER the date you plan to return, you will need to apply for a re-entry ticket beforehand as your original OA Visa validity will have expired when re-entering after 06-JAN-2020, and the re-entry permit will keep the granted permission to stay alive. 

b) If the permission to stay date is BEFORE the date you plan to return (in other words it has already passed), the easiest solution would be to do a border-run in course of coming weeks.  On your return from such a border-run - which has to be done before 06-JAN-2020, your Visa expiry date - you will be stamped in again for a 1 year permission to stay.

Hope this helps...

 

 

 

 

Hi
OA Visa issue date: 07-JAN-2019
OA Visa valid until: 06-JAN-2020
Current Permission to stay until: 24 OCT 2020

Therefore my OA Visa is still active and valid.
I will leave Thailand this year and not return until next year (i.e. after 06 JAN 2020).

So to preserve my existing permission to stay I would like to buy a re-entry permit.

My question to Sheryl was to confirm if her statement that re-entry permits could not be purchased whilst on an active multi-entry visa was true or not.

Another poster has kindly showed his reentry permit he obtained whilst on an active OA Visa - which seems to show that you can.

Peter

11 minutes ago, Mango Bob said:

You can only get a reentry permit for the time of your current stay which is 6 Jan 20.  So you have to go out and in three times between now and 6 Jan 20.  Better to get just a single entry if I am correct with what you said.

My permission to stay is until 24-OCT-2020 (one year from date of entry)

A wet signature is when you physically sign a piece of paper. It’s called a wet signature because you’re probably signing with a pen, which uses liquid ink. IN most places, signing your name is considered sufficient but marking the paper with an X also counts as a wet signature as well. In some cultures, they’ll still use name seals or wax seals to sign their documents.

6 hours ago, Sheryl said:

No. Not what I said.

 

Entry on a still valid OA generates a new  permission to stay and is in no way the same as entry on a re-entry permit, which does not generate a new permission to stay.

 

You will not be able to get a re-entry permit with a still valid multiple entry visa. You can only do that after the visa has expired (or in the case of a single entry visa been used). 

Hi Sheryl, I would like to understand more about the above highlighted statement. I am currently in Thailand on an unexpired OA Visa (expires 06-JAN-2020). I will be leaving Thailand before 06-JAN-2020 and will not have an opportunity to return before 06-JAN-2020. I was planning to get a multi-entry re-entry permit before I leave Thailand this year. Are you saying that they will not issue the re-entry permit to me because my OA has not yet expired?

What about the issue where you need 6 months validity in the passport ?? 
 
After Feb 2020 you will be hit and miss as to being allowed to get on flights etc. 

Immigration on entry will stamp you into the country to the date your visa allows. They do not do them to the date your passport expires.
They leave to you to get a new passport or leave the country before it expires.
The only time passport validity means anything is when applying for a extension of stay at immigration.

If you got a re-entry permit immigration on entry to the country would likely use the still valid OA visa for entry since it would allow a longer stay than the re-entry permit up to the date it expires.
I think you are overly concerned about them wanting to see insurance for a entry from a OA visa issued prior to October 31st. The rules certainly are not retroactive.

I have a question about a combination of an unexpired O-A Visa and Multi-entry re-entry permit.

I currently have:

1) OA Visa issued in Jan 2019 and expiring in Jan 2020

2) Passport expiring 31-AUG-2020

3) Permission to stay until 31-AUG-2020 (which is obviously aligned to my passport expiration date and I am happy to stick to this date).

I am nervous about the new OA-related health insurance rules that will take effect from 31-OCT-2019.

To try to minimize my "exposure" on this issue, my plan is to:

i) Before departing Thailand this week, apply for multi-entry re-entry permit for my current permission to stay

ii) Use this re-entry permit to re-enter Thailand in late October 2019, early December 2019 and multiple times in 2020 (up to AUG-2020).

This way I hope to "cement" my existing permission to stay. Under normal circumstances I would have got the multi-entry re-entry permit anyway during a future trip in 2019. All I am doing is getting the RE permit earlier. It will still cost me the same amount of money and the expiration date of the permit will still be 31-AUG-2020 regardless of when I get it.

My question: will the presence of the still valid OA visa in the passport in any way cause confusion or invalidate the re-entry permit when entering Thailand? Will the IO insist that he stamp me in using the OA instead of the re-entry permit?

Thanks

I am on a 1st year O-A visa.  My original permitted to stay date was 28 February 2020.  I just returned from an overseas trip in CM.  The IOs fumbled around for a while with the date stamp.  So I returned on 14 October with a permitted to stay stamp of 12 October 2020.  Not a big deal, but it seems like they were off  by a day or is there some creative counting being used?

Similar to the other posters in this thread, my O-A issued in Jan 2019 will expire in Jan 2020. I have made a number of entries to Thailand already on this visa. My next entry is planned for 26-OCT-2019 and I will stay one month. If I were to get a multi-entry re-entry permit at Jomtien during that trip, can that re-entry permit be used on subsequent entries to Thailand this year WHILST the O-A is still valid. I don't want to pay 3,800 for a multiple entry re-entry permit and find that I "lose" it because the IO at the airport requires me to use my unexpired O-A.

I submitted my tax ID to Krungsri and Kasikorn.

Krungsri happily accepted it and updated my account and confirmed that future interest payments will not have the 15% withheld unless the interest exceeds 20,000. The interest payments are made monthly so I will find out at the end of September if it worked.

My TM30 "Receipt of Notification" -- from the hardcopy TM30 fill in the blanks form -- has no address on it. What address, then, were you affirming -- possibly a household computer printout receipt?

You can do that? Which bank? 
I was expecting I would have to submit a tax form again and receipts for tax paid from my bank next January. (Too late now, already had tax deducted this year).
 
Not convinced your TM30 receipt had any impact, did they copy it?
 
Here is a pic of a Tax ID card, is this what they gave you?
The other may have simply been a receipt, I tried to use that but got knocked back at the Mall at KTB.