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I find this Consultant Psychiatrist, Dr Russell Razzaque describes Trump, his cohorts and supporters perfectly. Expect character assassinations to follow.

What ???? This would have to be the most bizarre explanation of why it cannot be surmised that Trump was possibly asleep at the time the picture was taken. So far we have: 1. The pictures are fake having been edited by AI or photoshop, etc. (How original for a MAGA). 2. Trump could not possibly be asleep as he is sitting unsupported. (We all know that it is impossible to fall asleep whilst in a sitting position, don't we ?) 3. As the picture is only a snapshot of a point in time, we are possibly fooled into thinking that this image lasted longer than the shutter speed of the camera, (based on the notion that, when somebody talks, their face distorts into bizarre shapes) So forget the nonsense about the face distorting. Look at the pictures below,(from a neutral standpoint), and ask your self, "If I was shown these pictures and asked what do I think the man in these pictures is doing, based on the information contained in the WHOLE picture, I could surmise that he was........" The images do not prove he was sleeping, (that is not my argument), but what could be reasonably deduced from the information contained within ? If you still wish to standby the snapshot, point in time, theory rather than make a deduction based on the total scene, then you would have to agree that those pictures of Biden "sleeping" were erroneous as well, would you not ? I simply do not understand why Trump supporters will go to these extreme lengths to try and twist the narrative.

That's a generalisation I disagree with. So you are postulating that a couple of quickly taken photographs of anyone supposedly sleeping cannot ever be taken as confirmation that person was asleep ? Where do you draw the line on what single still image illusion can be taken as proof ? I suspect the courts would love this as a defence strategy. He might have only been dozing for a short period of time, but I put faith in the stills taken that represent his state at that time. Based on his previous shows of ennui when he is at a function that is not about him, he clearly becomes bored, distracted and sleepy. This theory of "if photographed multiple times while talking, blinking, etc., will produce images where they look totally out of it" was never used by the right, (or left), in defence of Biden. As I have mentioned multiple times in this thread, there are many pictures of Trump sleeping at official functions, this is no different.

Second picture shows he is slumped, not sitting upright. Try again. I would have thought that you would already be embarrassed by what you have posted. Enough for me.

"You stated that numerous media outlets had reported Trump fell asleep" This is what I actually said: I wasn't using that as proof that Trump fell asleep, just that the incident was reported in some media outlets, Where did I say that the media actually reported Trump fell asleep ? The evidence they offer are the pictures. You still haven't commented on whether the fact he was slumped, mouth open and eyes closed tends to indicate he was asleep. How pedantic does this have to become before you accept that those reported pictures tend to show Trump is sleeping ? Besides Frank has already declared these pictures as photoshopped, so you guys have nothing to justify..correct ?

I never said the posts were fact, I asked Frank if all the pictures were fake. I have not reposted any twitter feeds, the only ones referenced were contained in news reports. Just the Hindi times ? https://www.livemint.com/news/donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-outrage-internet-says-embarrassment-to-us-11745714382248.html https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-buzz/did-donald-trump-fall-asleep-at-pope-francis-funeral-photo-goes-viral-article-151507227 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/was-donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-debate/articleshow/120657494.cms https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/was-donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-debate/ar-AA1DGy1T and the list goes on. You have never fallen asleep sitting up ?? Really ??? In every other picture of him sleeping at a function, he is also sitting up/slumped. He wasn't holding himself up but had slumped. Its not revenge, as Trump has a reputation for falling asleep at official functions, and this is possibly another example. If this was Biden, you guys would be having a field day, but as the bone spur is now on the other foot you don't like it. Anyway, keep the denial train going .... around in circles.

Why do we have to go to such granularity with you Trump supporters as you try and dismiss anything negative about Trump ? The headline asked the question and in the body of the reported article it said :- "The image sparked speculation, with many users suggesting that the 78-year-old president appeared to have fallen asleep during the service." In your opinion, does that second photo tend to indicate that Trump is asleep as opposed to just closing his eyes ? I do not want to enter a debate as what constitutes a report or not. This is becoming pedantic purely for formalisms sake.

I wasn't using that as proof that Trump fell asleep, just that the incident was reported in some media outlets, unlike what Frank was inferring. You are correct. Closing your eyes does not mean you are asleep. But, eyes closed, mouth open and head drooped is a pretty good indication that Trump is away with the fairies.

Oh, that settles it then...those pictures are obviously fake. All the postings on Twitter are fake. Like the videos of him eating gum or playing with his phone ! What lengths will you go to in an attempt to protect Trump. Is it so hard for you to admit that he fell asleep ? https://www.newsx.com/world/did-donald-trump-fall-asleep-at-pope-francis-funeral-internet-has-a-field-day-after-photos-go-viral/ What is your get out of gaol card for this article ? Oh, its not mainstream media or its just an Indian newspaper ?

C'mon, you gotta do better than that. Prove the images available have been photoshopped. Even if video footage was available, MAGA Avengers would only claim AI. There are multiple images available online where Trump has fallen asleep at official functions, Have they all been Photoshopped ? If it was an image of someone who wasn't part of the MAGA cult, you wouldn't even try and deflect. But because its Trump, you have to fall back on conspiracy theories. Hint, try typing into Google: "Did trump fall asleep at the funeral".

Donny cuts such a statesmanlike figure. What a great representative of the "free world". He is like that Uncle that everyone is ashamed of and hopes he never attends family functions. God knows what else happened when he dozed off, no wonder the wife is looking the other way.

Isn't Bondi the AG that decided not to pursue charges against Trump University after she received $25,000 from Trump as a donation for her campaign in 2013 ? Seems that makes her eminently suitable as a candidate for Trumps cabinet. Wonder if there will be any nominations who are either qualified, or do not have the stench of corruption hanging round them ?

A little video I made, and I think PF sum up Trump rather well, (if I don't get a copyright strike). trump 2.mp4

Not just Democrats.

How typical of a MAGA to support a washed up B grade, alcoholic anti-Semite actor who assaulted his girlfriend. That must put him right up there with Trump in your estimation.