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1 hour ago, garygooner said:

No way. Hangover 2 scene was in Tilac Bar, Soi Cowboy. Look at the decor. 

Correct, though from what I remember the scenes were shot during the day when all the bars except Piccolo bar at one end, and Old Dutch at the other, were closed. Someone told me that Suzie Wong's did a refit based on the fact that they were going to film in there, but I don't think they did. 
 

7 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Only went once the bar had a glass  ceiling. I suppose the staff had to break through it to progress  career wise .....!

Baccara Bar

I find this Consultant Psychiatrist, Dr Russell Razzaque describes Trump, his cohorts and  supporters perfectly.
Expect character assassinations to follow.
 

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

No, I said, "Photos only show a fraction of a second of time.  You're allowing yourself to be fooled by the illusion of a still image making you think that what is seen happened for an extended period of time."

 

It depends on the photo.  Technically, you can never prove that someone is sleeping in a photo, as even if someone is laying down with their eyes shut, they might still be awake.

 

 

Anything where someone tries to claim the photo shows more than it does, like you did.

 

A photo only shows what is happening for the fraction of a second that the photo has captured.

 

You can try it yourself.  Watch a video of someone talking and pause it, advance frame by frame and you will see their face contort into all kinds of bizarre shapes and expressions.

 

 

The photo you claim shows Trump sleeping would probably not prove to a court that he was sleeping.

What ????
This would have to be the most bizarre explanation of why it cannot be surmised that Trump was possibly asleep at the time the picture was taken.
So far we have:
1. The pictures are fake having been edited by AI or photoshop, etc.
     (How original for a MAGA).
2. Trump could not possibly be asleep as he is sitting unsupported.
    (We all know that it is impossible to fall asleep whilst in a sitting position, don't we ?)
3. As the picture is only a snapshot of a point in time, we are possibly fooled into thinking that this image lasted longer than the shutter speed of the camera,     (based on the notion that, when somebody talks, their face distorts into bizarre shapes)
   So forget the nonsense about the face distorting.
   Look at the pictures below,(from a neutral standpoint), and ask your self, "If I was shown these pictures and asked what do I think the man in these pictures is doing, based on the information contained in the WHOLE picture, I could surmise that he was........"

The images do not prove he was sleeping, (that is not my argument), but what could be reasonably deduced from the information contained within ?

If you still wish to standby the snapshot, point in time, theory rather than make a deduction based on the total scene, then you would have to agree
that those pictures of Biden "sleeping" were erroneous as well, would you not ?

I simply do not understand why  Trump supporters will go to these extreme lengths to try and twist the narrative.

17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Photos only show a fraction of a second of time.  You're allowing yourself to be fooled by the illusion of a still image making you think that what is seen happened for an extended period of time. 

 

Absolutely everyone, if photographed multiple times while talking, blinking, etc., will produce images where they look totally out of it.

That's a generalisation I disagree with.
So you are postulating that a couple of  quickly taken photographs of anyone supposedly sleeping cannot ever be taken as confirmation that person was asleep ?
Where do you draw the line on what single still image illusion can be taken as proof ?
I suspect the courts would love this as a defence strategy.
He might have only been dozing for a short period of time, but I put faith in the stills taken that represent his state at that time.
Based on his previous shows of ennui when he is at a function that is not about him, he clearly becomes bored, distracted and sleepy.
This theory of "if photographed multiple times while talking, blinking, etc., will produce images where they look totally out of it" was never used by the right, (or left), in defence of Biden.
As I have mentioned multiple times in this thread, there are many pictures of Trump sleeping at official functions, this is no different.
 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I have, I posted above :

You must have missed it .

 

 

 "Trump had his eyes closed .

Closing ones eyes doesn't mean that he's asleep ."

 

   BTW, he wasn't slumped , I just felt rather stupid arguing whether Donald was slumped or sitting up straight , its embarrassing having to post this  .

 

*But Mum, I am sitting up properly* 🙂

Second picture shows he is slumped, not sitting upright.
Try again.
I would have thought that you would already be embarrassed by what you have posted.
Enough for me.

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   All those links are asking the same question .

They are asking whether Trump fell asleep or not .

The only evidence they offer is peoples  X posts .

You stated that numerous media outlets had reported Trump fell asleep

That claim isn't true . 

The media outlets just asked a question 

"You stated that numerous media outlets had reported Trump fell asleep"

This is what I actually said:

I wasn't using that as proof that Trump fell asleep, just that the incident was reported in some media outlets,
Where did I say that the media actually reported Trump fell asleep ?
The evidence they offer are the pictures.
You still haven't commented on whether the fact he was slumped, mouth open and eyes closed tends to indicate he was asleep.

How pedantic does this have to become before you accept that those reported pictures tend to show Trump is sleeping ?

Besides Frank has already declared these pictures as photoshopped, so you guys have nothing to justify..correct ?

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The "many users" who suggested that Trump fell asleep are twitter users  .

   You are posting peoples X/twitters posts and suggestions as being factual .

   People on X said Trump fell asleep and you are posting that now as a fact .

   Trump falling asleep wasn't reported in any media  outlets as you claimed  , just the Hindi times reported what people posted on X .

   With a photo of a person with their eyes closed its not possible to know whether they were asleep or not . But as Trump was holding himself up with no support , its quite likely that he was awake .

   This is just an attempted revenge for Tumps sleepy Joe comments 

 

I never said the posts were fact, I asked Frank if all the pictures were fake.
I have not reposted any twitter feeds, the only ones referenced were contained in news reports.

Just the Hindi times ?

https://www.livemint.com/news/donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-outrage-internet-says-embarrassment-to-us-11745714382248.html
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-buzz/did-donald-trump-fall-asleep-at-pope-francis-funeral-photo-goes-viral-article-151507227
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/was-donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-debate/articleshow/120657494.cms
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/was-donald-trump-sleeping-at-pope-francis-funeral-viral-photos-spark-debate/ar-AA1DGy1T
and the list goes on.

You have never fallen asleep sitting up  ??   Really  ???
In every other picture of him sleeping at a function, he is also sitting up/slumped.
He wasn't holding himself up but had slumped.
Its not revenge, as Trump has a reputation for falling asleep at official functions, and this is possibly another example.
If this was Biden, you guys would be having a field day, but as the bone spur is now on the other foot you don't like it.
Anyway, keep the denial train going .... around in circles.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which media outlets reported it ?

The link that you provided just asked a question 

Why do we have to go to such granularity with you Trump supporters as you try and dismiss anything negative about Trump ?
The headline asked the question and in the body of the reported article it said :-

"The image sparked speculation, with many users suggesting that the 78-year-old president appeared to have fallen asleep during the service."

In your opinion, does that second photo tend to indicate that Trump is asleep as opposed to just closing his eyes  ?
I do not want to enter a debate as what constitutes a report or not.
This is becoming pedantic purely for formalisms sake.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Trump had his eyes closed .

Closing ones eyes doesn't mean that he's asleep .

You claim that Donald fell asleep and to prove that, you provide a link with the headline .

   The headline doesn't even back up your claim 

 

Did Donald Trump Fall Asleep At Pope Francis’ Funeral? 

 

I wasn't using that as proof that Trump fell asleep, just that the incident was reported in some media outlets, unlike what Frank was inferring.
You are correct. Closing your eyes does not mean you are asleep.
But, eyes closed, mouth open and head drooped is a pretty good indication that Trump is away with the fairies.

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

If trump had fallen asleep the media headlines would be all over it, not the colour of his suit

Oh, that settles it then...those pictures are obviously fake.
All the postings on Twitter are fake.
Like the videos of him eating gum or playing with his phone !
What lengths will you go to in an attempt to protect Trump. Is it so hard for you to admit that he fell asleep  ?

https://www.newsx.com/world/did-donald-trump-fall-asleep-at-pope-francis-funeral-internet-has-a-field-day-after-photos-go-viral/

What is your get out of gaol card for this article ?
Oh, its not mainstream media or its just an Indian newspaper ?

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yeah right of course this happened, how about video footage not photoshopped photos

C'mon, you gotta do better than that.
Prove the images available have been photoshopped.
Even if video footage was available, MAGA Avengers would only claim AI.
There are multiple images available online where Trump has fallen asleep at official functions, Have they all been Photoshopped ?
If it was an image of someone who wasn't part of the MAGA cult, you wouldn't even try and deflect. But because its Trump, you have to fall back on conspiracy theories.
Hint, try typing into Google: "Did trump fall asleep at the funeral".
 

Donny cuts such a statesmanlike figure. What a great representative of the "free world".
He is like that Uncle that everyone is ashamed of and hopes he never attends family functions.
God knows what else happened when he dozed off, no wonder the wife is looking the other way.

A little video I made, and I think PF sum up Trump rather well, (if I don't get a copyright strike).
 

2 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

because we do not like be called garbage by democrats

 

  

 

Not just Democrats.

I rate Allan Lichtman over Silver any day.
Nate basis his predictions on nothing but polling results, which can change.
Allan has his 13 keys that he uses and has correctly predicted all outcomes except Gore versus Bush, (and he claims that was a stolen election).

No doubt as his keys do not point to a Trump win, Maga's will now try and denigrate his methods, or the guy himself.

https://thehill.com/video/nate-silver-is-wrong-kamala-harris-will-win-allan-lichtman-predicts/10025044/

Just now, Hanaguma said:

Yes, I admit to following the Biden/Harris technique of plagiarising those I want to. 

Sure you do.
Bet you thought that cholesterol comment was the bees knees, until......

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Glad to see you are taking the time to enjoy the Speaker's skills in dealing with the biased legacy media!

So you do admit to plagiarism ?
Skills  ? You mean not answering the question ?    deflect, protect, deflect, protect.

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Been there, done that. Nobody cares but desperate Democrats. Voters care about the issues- especially the economy, immigration, and inflation.  Not the president's cholesterol.

You stole that fatuous attempt at deflection from Mike Johnson.
He liked it so much he used it twice in the same interview,

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i do if there is some!

 

 

QED
you obviously dont get the hypocrisy when you complain about a short being posted by left wingers, yet no comment when a 6 minute extreme right wing clip is posted.