BangkokTony Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I have plenty of time on my hands and regularly watch vlogs via my tv or pc. I have noticed that many vloggers are asking for 'support' via Patreon or click like, comment or share. Most of them vlog 2 or three times a week and on their site ask for donations. I know of only two Thailand vloggers who do not ask for money. I have never donated and never will and am perturbed by their thick skinned attitude. No one is asking them to vlog; it is their choice. Why should I pay for their lifestyle? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Radar501 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, BangkokTony said: No one is asking them to vlog; it is their choice. No one is asking you to watch the vlogs. It is your choice. It is also your choice to donate or not. Up to you. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kieran00001 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Some people watching some vlogs feel that they have gained something valuable and want to compensate the creator for their hard work, its hardly rocket science. If you don't feel that you should then don't, that is the thing with voluntary donations, they are voluntary. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 55Jay Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Never donated/Patreon either. My vague understanding is YT has raised the bar (again) for content creators to make money off YT. I have sub'ed to about 10 different channels and try watching the full video, maybe leave a comment and hit the bell for new content notification. Apparently that helps them with the new YT rules, but that's as far as I go with it. The one guy I like and have followed for quite some time, quit his job, sold his house, bought a fixer upper boat to live on. It was interesting watching him progress through all that. But he was going to do that anyway so I don't feel any inclination to give him money. He's really shaking the tin collection cup this year. Vid I watched yesterday was all about that, it's becoming a real turn off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 its not in your face like in resturants bars etc where insults are common if tipping isnt coming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Some people watching some vlogs feel that they have gained something valuable and want to compensate the creator for their hard work, its hardly rocket science. If you don't feel that you should then don't, that is the thing with voluntary donations, they are voluntary. I have never really thought about it this way before so I'm just flicking a pebble into the water .. If a person gives money but the information is wrong or intentionally misleading could they get their money back + losses incurred..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeremia Juxtaposed said: I have never really thought about it this way before so I'm just flicking a pebble into the water .. If a person gives money but the information is wrong or intentionally misleading could they get their money back + losses incurred..?? If they had a contract stating that in paying they trust that they are receiving factual information then they could, otherwise it would be next to impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: If they had a contract stating that in paying they trust that they are receiving factual information then they could, otherwise it would be next to impossible. Yeh!.......I treat all information by Pattaya YT Vloggers the same as "A bloke down the pub said ......." but you will always see somebody buy him a beer...Sucker or not it is their choice... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samsensam Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 in the UK in the 1970s there was a tv show called; Why Don't You Just Switch Off Your Television Set and Go Out and Do Something Less Boring Instead? replace 'television set' with 'computer/tablet/phone', as applicable, i think you'll enjoy and get a lot more out of life ? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uwe_rayong Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 I find it very difficult to understand how somebody can be offended if the maker of a video, asks politely for a financial contribution. 1.) It is your choice to watch the content. 2.) it is your choice if you want to make a contribution or not. If you don't like the content stop watching.If you like the content continue to watch but don`t pay. I sometimes watch those videos and I never made a contribution. My choice! Why you complain about something that is your choice. Do you feel cheap if you watch and don`t pay ? Or are you envious that somebody is getting paid for something, that in your opinion should be free or forbidden? If somebody in Europe makes music on the street with a hat or bucket in front of them, it is your choice to stop and listen to the music. It is your choice to put money in that hat or not. If 30 persons stop, maybe 4-6 persons make a small contribution. Nobody follows you and demand a payment, if you have listened to that music for 5 minutes. If I like it I maybe stop for a while, if I find the person sympathetic I maybe put 1-2 Euro in the hat. I am not interested if that person has a work permit or approval of the city to make music there. It is none of my business. What I don´t like with this youtubers or other vloggers is, if they produce content with the help of others that are not aware of that (hidden cam content). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeGee Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Back in the days(it may still exist) there was a whole group of people who produced software programmes for personal computers.They offered these to the public free of charge, i think it was called shareware,.They asked if you found the programme useful to make a contribution if you did not contribute you could still use the software.Totally up to you.I think the YT is exactly the same thing, so it is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, CeeGee said: Back in the days(it may still exist) there was a whole group of people who produced software programmes for personal computers.They offered these to the public free of charge, i think it was called shareware,.They asked if you found the programme useful to make a contribution if you did not contribute you could still use the software.Totally up to you.I think the YT is exactly the same thing, so it is nothing new. Shareware was free software that you could access the code, it was designed to promote software development, its called opensource now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokTony Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 19 hours ago, samsensam said: in the UK in the 1970s there was a tv show called; Why Don't You Just Switch Off Your Television Set and Go Out and Do Something Less Boring Instead? replace 'television set' with 'computer/tablet/phone', as applicable, i think you'll enjoy and get a lot more out of life ? How do you manage your time Sam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 22 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: Some people watching some vlogs feel that they have gained something valuable and want to compensate the creator for their hard work, its hardly rocket science. If you don't feel that you should then don't, that is the thing with voluntary donations, they are voluntary. "its hardly rocket science" sorry you are mistaken, it IS . "thaivisa rocket science" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus99 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 You watched the vlog and you never gave a donation, nor did anyone compel you to donate, so whats your issue exactly? I mean besides you having too much time on your hands, and that you are attention seeking, annoying and are reducing someones bandwith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I need a new Lawn mower !!!...I would like the "Ferris" Ride on with the Aircon Cab...All donations will be gladly appreciated, to make an Old Fella happy......? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, weegee said: I need a new Lawn mower !!!...I would like the "Ferris" Ride on with the Aircon Cab...All donations will be gladly appreciated, to make an Old Fella happy......? I need money for my stepson because living in the village is very expensive...... so I bought myself a high powered motorcycle. (Sorry, but somebody had to say it....) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 17 hours ago, BangkokTony said: How do you manage your time Sam? No answer will be forthcoming. True to his word he switched off and did something else. He's miles away by now........somewhere in the non-virtual world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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