kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) just got back from soi cowboy and asoke corner! what happend here another soi 10 story! apparantly in front of some tv camera's about 50 guy's went in there and smashed the place apart. i took a video inside, totally black and saw some gals and owners crying looks like we are still in the dark ages here Edited December 13, 2004 by kreon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas_cars Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowersmiths Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 shit i was in there last night! a couple of weeks ago the old bill put fencing up around it cos they hadn't paid 'the agreed sum' but then they took it down again. looks like they didn't stump up after all. i liked that place ......... hope that isn't the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorFart Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Sounds like the end. Shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers. But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 Sounds like the end.Shame! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it is...liked that place too for a quite beer or two. was there a couple of weeks ago when thy treatend with the fence! the owner of b52 ran and never came back asoke place rest in peace it sucks, who wants to invest in thailand, i guess bravenheart only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers.But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> eyesore or not....of which i see many in thailand...does not mean you have to take the law in your own hands. i guess this is the worldwide publicity they want here, why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, but i presume these are not eysores Edited December 13, 2004 by kreon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 The person who done it will have a massive billboard up some with a photo of him (or her) up around the area soon, next to some text saying how he's going to save the world... Anybody got any photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Which also reminds me - there's that beer bar area on Soi 22. I know one owner there and she's getting a little nervous about it. Doesn't matter what you think if these places, there are peoples livelihoods at stake. You see the fuzz walking around there every day now at all hours, coming into bars and introducing stupid random restrictions. I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowersmiths Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, you got more details? i need a new watering hole now asoke has gone. as for it being an 'eyesore', i thought the place had character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 Which also reminds me - there's that beer bar area on Soi 22. I know one owner there and she's getting a little nervous about it. Doesn't matter what you think if these places, there are peoples livelihoods at stake.You see the fuzz walking around there every day now at all hours, coming into bars and introducing stupid random restrictions. I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not beats owning the land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers.But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i guess this is the worldwide publicity they want here, why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, but i presume these are not eysores <{POST_SNAPBACK}> haha, if it was my call - from the eyesore persepctive, Pattaya would be next, then maybe Ratchada after that. Agree that vigilantism is not the best way. Also would like to legalise the whole industry, so that it could be properly regulated....but thats a long way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, you got more details? i need a new watering hole now asoke has gone. as for it being an 'eyesore', i thought the place had character <{POST_SNAPBACK}> try the discos...such as sparks...always have a good time there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Which also reminds me - there's that beer bar area on Soi 22. I know one owner there and she's getting a little nervous about it. Doesn't matter what you think if these places, there are peoples livelihoods at stake.You see the fuzz walking around there every day now at all hours, coming into bars and introducing stupid random restrictions. I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you walk up Soi 22 you can see all the new tower blocks under construction where really nice places used to be. Also I know several of the bar owners in Washington Square and their legal leases are due up at the end of 2005, so I guess that Washington Square will become a new hotel/mall/ anything else we can put in sort of place then. As if Bangkok actually needed any more big hotels or shopping malls. However life will go on and memories get better over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers.But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i guess this is the worldwide publicity they want here, why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, but i presume these are not eysores <{POST_SNAPBACK}> haha, if it was my call - from the eyesore persepctive, Pattaya would be next, then maybe Ratchada after that. Agree that vigilantism is not the best way. Also would like to legalise the whole industry, so that it could be properly regulated....but thats a long way off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phnom penh here we come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowersmiths Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 try sparks in phnom penh then kreon!!! plenty of rich khmers .... sharkys and martinis never looked so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers.But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i guess this is the worldwide publicity they want here, why not tackle ratchadapisek instead, full with whore castles, but i presume these are not eysores <{POST_SNAPBACK}> haha, if it was my call - from the eyesore persepctive, Pattaya would be next, then maybe Ratchada after that. Agree that vigilantism is not the best way. Also would like to legalise the whole industry, so that it could be properly regulated....but thats a long way off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phnom penh here we come... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats entirely your choice. These things are never a zero sum game. What replaces the bars will undoubtely help provide a livelihood to others too, and most likely provide more viable options for the future. Edited December 13, 2004 by samran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowersmiths Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Thats entirely your choice. These things are never a zero sum gain. What replaces the bars will undoubtely help provide a livelihood to others too, and most likely provide more viable options for the future. maybe you should tell that to the people who have just had their livelihoods destroyed. what about the familes of the girls that worked there? the owners? i'm sure they'd be very interested in your comments ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreon Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 try sparks in phnom penh then kreon!!! plenty of rich khmers .... sharkys and martinis never looked so good <{POST_SNAPBACK}> after pattaya, be back again there this weekend appreciate your tip......obviously like me you're a man of serious means $$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingy_ Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 lets ask chu-wit if he did it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Thats entirely your choice. These things are never a zero sum gain. What replaces the bars will undoubtely help provide a livelihood to others too, and most likely provide more viable options for the future. maybe you should tell that to the people who have just had their livelihoods destroyed. what about the familes of the girls that worked there? the owners? i'm sure they'd be very interested in your comments ............. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do feel, but there are better options out there. I actually feel for the girls more, who, in 10 years time are spat out onto the 'too old' scrap heap, with no skills, no pension and no benefits, with their money sucked away by their leaching families and send their kids into the continual cycle of poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingy_ Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 its hard to believe but never settle on land that does not belong to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I don't agree with the manor that the place was pulled down, even though I don't know the politics of the land ownership. BUT to say the place had character is well over the top, it was a rat invested, sewer smelling sh*t hole. Furthermore, when walking past the place, especially in daylight hours, I really had a problem with the ugly birds trying to pull me and any other farang into their bars. You can't do this on a busy intersection in Bangers, Jeez this isn't Pattaya <deleted>! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburns57au Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 just got back from soi cowboy and asoke corner!what happend here another soi 10 story! apparantly in front of some tv camera's about 50 guy's went in there and smashed the place apart. i took a video inside, totally black and saw some gals and owners crying looks like we are still in the dark ages here Shame, it was a good place to stop for a cold drink on a hot day, while it was a bit ramshackle, some of the bars tried hard to make their bars look good. It also worries me that a lot of owners put memoriablia in their bars and these goons just walk in and steal it or wreck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well yes you have a point here, BUT, the bar owners and the girls working Asoke only had themselves to blame. They showed total disrespect to everyone on that corner. Think of the middleclass families in their cars waiting for those lights to change looking at that <deleted>, think of the normal tourists having to endue walking past that smell. I personally cringed with embarrassment walking past only to relax when I reached Cowboy. Yeah, the place has no right or use in a modern BKK I guess Soi 11 will go next and again no tears from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolcleaner Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well yes you have a point here, BUT, the bar owners and the girls working Asoke only had themselves to blame. They showed total disrespect to everyone on that corner. Think of the middleclass families in their cars waiting for those lights to change looking at that <deleted>, think of the normal tourists having to endue walking past that smell. I personally cringed with embarrassment walking past only to relax when I reached Cowboy. Yeah, the place has no right or use in a modern BKK I guess Soi 11 will go next and again no tears from me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was an embarassment full stop. Just as soi 10 was and clinton plaza and the horrible bars that are there now. I've porbably only ever had three beers there. I'm glad they've gone and the bar owners have really got to look at their behavior. If they choose to have their girls spruiking on a major intersection in front of business people, tourists etc. who can blame the Govt for not wanting the eyesore. Soi Cowboy will go soon! Don't believe they put a subway station at Cowboy's doorstep by chance, do you? It's prime real estate, Asoke corner. Perfect for a 35 story hotel or shopping centre. Move the whores inside a grubby soi down the track a bit and everythings fine. As for soi 22 and Washington square. It wouldn't matter if you had a fish and chip shop or a dry cleaners when the time comes for the land use to be upgraded to a multi story building site the little shops go. No question. I don't particularly believe that the anti-fun police have anything to do with it. It's just progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Gotta agree this place was a real eyesore. I like the odd beer in Cowboy or Nana myself but I certainly don't appreciate being accosted and greeted like a whoremonger when I'm walking past a main intersection minding my own business, walking home from work, doing some shopping etc. There's a time and a place for this type of thing and that place is in some sort of zone withdrawn a bit from the main street just like Cowboy and Nana are. Otherwise you are just going to antagonize everybody. Actually, it shows how "influential" Patpong must be to maintain its rather brazen position at the epicenter of the CBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 if indeed there were legal agreements that were in place, I feel sorry for the owners/workers.But I am guessing not. The place was an eyesore anyway. Sorry, but thats my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm astonished that you even looked ( from the outside of course ) at a place of ill repute like that Dr Samran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I sometimes appreciate what the govt is trying to do in regards to cleaning up the city, but the way it's executed quickly makes me loose all empathy with them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well yes you have a point here, BUT, the bar owners and the girls working Asoke only had themselves to blame. They showed total disrespect to everyone on that corner. Think of the middleclass families in their cars waiting for those lights to change looking at that <deleted>, think of the normal tourists having to endue walking past that smell. I personally cringed with embarrassment walking past only to relax when I reached Cowboy. Yeah, the place has no right or use in a modern BKK I guess Soi 11 will go next and again no tears from me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was an embarassment full stop. Just as soi 10 was and clinton plaza and the horrible bars that are there now. I've porbably only ever had three beers there. I'm glad they've gone and the bar owners have really got to look at their behavior. If they choose to have their girls spruiking on a major intersection in front of business people, tourists etc. who can blame the Govt for not wanting the eyesore. Soi Cowboy will go soon! Don't believe they put a subway station at Cowboy's doorstep by chance, do you? It's prime real estate, Asoke corner. Perfect for a 35 story hotel or shopping centre. Move the whores inside a grubby soi down the track a bit and everythings fine. As for soi 22 and Washington square. It wouldn't matter if you had a fish and chip shop or a dry cleaners when the time comes for the land use to be upgraded to a multi story building site the little shops go. No question. I don't particularly believe that the anti-fun police have anything to do with it. It's just progress. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Personally, I hope Cowboy will be ok, 95% of the human traffic will turn left as they come up from the subway so they won't see Cowboy......I heard that the Asoke Bar area is to become a Multi-story car park??? And you are right, its simply progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabal1234 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Eyesore or not, I don't think for a second this was the reason it was pulled down. I have to walk past it every night on the way home from work and found I could take a wide berth to avoid any unnecessary attention. I feel very sorry to all who lost their jobs/businesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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