KKvampire Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) I may need to fly "One 2 go" in a few days, rather reluctant because of their safety record and old aircraft, Anyone got any recent experience with them? Edited January 12, 2010 by KKvampire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I flew them once about two years ago, and was slack jawed when I saw how old the planes were. It was like something out of a movie. Never again. I think about it this way: I'm not willing to risk my life in order to save 400 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKvampire Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 I flew 5 years ago , I may need to fly with them because of flight time, I guess they are ok now with safety and no incidents in last year or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 One two crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I believe One2Go is still on the list of airlines banned from the EU due to safety concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I would not fly with them even if it was free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennkate Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Lets put it this way, If the man up front is happy to take it up, Why should you worry ? If you do happen to hit a mountain He/She will be the First to Die ( Self preservation and all that ) I look at it that way So far so good I am sure it's safer than most other forms of transport in Thailand Used them many times and still alive. Have you crossed the road in Thailand ? that in itself is considerably more dangerous IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 NO why would you even ask such a question ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 kennkate said, Lets put it this way, If the man up front is happy to take it up, Why should you worry ? If you do happen to hit a mountain He/She will be the First to Die ( Self preservation and all that ) I look at it that way So far so good Well kennkate, that may seem like good logic, but as a former airline pilot, I can tell you that many pilots will do anything to win/keep a job, and that includes flying unairworthy aircraft. I spent some years flying in SE Asia/Japan, the word in the industry, and from an associate who flew for them, is that 1,2, Go is not a good place to be, either as crew or pax!! When one continues to tempt fate, it will catch up. The more often one does it, the easier it becomes, and then the further one pushes the limit. That, my friend, is a recipe to end your days in a smoking hole in the ground. I wouldn't get into a One, Two, Go aircraft if they paid me to travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennkate Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 F4 You state that pilots will fly unairworthy aircraft in order to keep the job. I doubt that is the case I must admit I do not know the 1 TO GO crash stats.Of that particular aircraft Maybe you could enlighten people How many have been Aircraft failure And How many Pilot Error ? I would think that the vast majority have been Pilot Error Just because the aircraft is getting on a bit is not in itself a major problem. Look at it this way how many DC3 Dakota are there still Flying 60 Years old. With Piston Engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie777 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) F4 You state that pilots will fly unairworthy aircraft in order to keep the job. I doubt that is the case I must admit I do not know the 1 TO GO crash stats.Of that particular aircraft Maybe you could enlighten people How many have been Aircraft failure And How many Pilot Error ? I would think that the vast majority have been Pilot Error Just because the aircraft is getting on a bit is not in itself a major problem. Look at it this way how many DC3 Dakota are there still Flying 60 Years old. With Piston Engines. Kennkate, I have to agree with F4UCorsair on this one...I too used to work for Orient Thai/One Two Go (you may come back at me and say that they are two different companies, but believe you me, they are one in the same!). I have seen their aircraft carry maintenance problems that could have ended in disaster (google JAL123 and you will get some idea of an aircraft with Orient Thai that could have ended that way). It is now several years since my time there, I cannot speak for the present group of pilots, but back in my day, if a pilot refused to take a flight because of an aircraft/weather/ground/whatever problem, the owner was on the phone personally to the individual concerned to review his "terms of employment"..... Anyway, I guess in your case and that of many, ignorance is bliss...I mean that with all sincerity....the less you know, the less stressful your trip will be! So, to answer the OP, I would not fly with OT or OTG....EVER!! (just a humble opinion) Cheers, Aussie777 Edited January 12, 2010 by Aussie777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Just ensure that your life insurance is up to date before you fly with these cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDave Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) In support of what Aussie777 says, I would direct the OP to an excellent web forum Pprune.org - a place where people working in the aviation industry exchange views. If you dig back a couple of years and build up a picture of what has gone on with this airline in its' various forms you will probably find all the answers you need to your question. Edited January 13, 2010 by KhunDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsen Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I used them several timer over the past years and never had a problem..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) I used them several timer over the past years and never had a problem..... Well of course there are at least 90 people who had a major problem with the airline who will not be posting.... The reports that have been published (the Thai investigation has not) are pretty damning in my view. Here is a quicki from Wicki.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 And here is a detailed website (with an obvious strong bias!) http://investigateudom.com/timeline.php It does include the official NTSB report. And here is an Australian News investigation. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=...:-1:ind:1:ff:8A Edited January 14, 2010 by Abrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I used them several timer over the past years and never had a problem..... "It didn't crash when I used them" is hardly an endorsement. I've seen too many reports by their former pilots to ever recommend them or their ramshackle aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucus7 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) I used them several timer over the past years and never had a problem..... "It didn't crash when I used them" is hardly an endorsement. I've seen too many reports by their former pilots to ever recommend them or their ramshackle aircraft. Where can I review these reports by former 1 2 go pilots? Edited January 15, 2010 by rucus7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchFARANGbkk Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 One... two... die ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpy Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Last time I flew them BKK-CNX the plane had a very loud noise and strong vibration the whole way. I was very nervous as was the person sitting next to me. One of the most violent landings too. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaeagle Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 It's my "Airline-Of-Choice" for the mother-in-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDave Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I used them several timer over the past years and never had a problem..... "It didn't crash when I used them" is hardly an endorsement. I've seen too many reports by their former pilots to ever recommend them or their ramshackle aircraft. Where can I review these reports by former 1 2 go pilots? Check out pprune.org - you need to dig back a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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