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She must have fell for one of those Nigerian Scam artist things

Every time I leave Bangkok they search my Luggage, and go through all my stuff, I don't know what made her think she could get away with this? I feel guilty every time they find all my Whips and Chains and Handcuffs Thank goodness most of the times have been an understanding Thai Female Customs Agent who didn't give me any trouble about it. She just smiled the last time and waved me through.

I'm really glad they got these Guys, next they need to round up all the Red Shirts then life can be shiny and new again in Pattaya.

I don't think people should associate negative things with Pattaya, Pattaya is awesome, it is Beautiful, I think the Music Festival is going on if it has not been canceled because of the Thaksin/Red Shirts Terrorists, but if the Music Festival IS going on as planned you can walk around Pattaya and hear different kinds of Music from all over Thailand as well as many other participating Countries, you can meet many famous Thai Music Artists who walk the Streets in Pattaya during the Music Festival.

There are lots of GOOD people in Pattaya, and Pattaya as a place is one of my favorite places in the Whole world, and I have been many many Places in the World.

Someday I plan to buy a piece of Land in Pattaya and build a house there. And the reason is because of the people, the beach, and the fact that when I walk down the street at sunset I feel at home. The smell of Barbecue fills the Air in one area, near Walking Street you smell incense from all the Bars who lite Incense at dusk every night. Even the College Girls come down to Pattaya on the weekends and hang out on the Board walk and try to get a little action.

It is a Spawning Ground for everyone who is single and for some who wish they were again.

Sex IS part of Pattaya, Symbolized by the Beautiful Brass Statue near the Center of Town. But SEX IS NOT EVIL, it is the very origin of Human Existence.

Buddhism teaches to Embrace Human Nature not Condemn it. Only other Religions who propagate hate preach to Hate Sex and call it Sinful.

So if you hate Pattaya because it is a Sexy Place, if you hate Sex, then commit to those Beliefs and cut off your Genitals please. Because we definitely don't need anymore Hate mongers like you running around in the world now do we?

These Bikers are like Rodents of Pattaya not Symbols of it. If you want a Symbol of Pattaya, I would say the Beautiful Girls would be the Greatest Symbol. The Origin of Pattaya started from Beautiful Compassionate Thai Girls who took American Soldiers who lived their lives in utter hel_l in fear and torment every day, seeing Death and Destruction most can't even imagine, and these Girls gave these men a moment of Peace and Happiness in their Lives, and for many it was their LAST moment of Happiness and Peace. So in this way Pattaya is kind of a Memorial of Honor for Thailand and Thai Women. It demonstrates the Compassion and Love that these Girls gave then, And Still give today for those weary souls who can't find love in this World. They come to Pattaya to find what they cannot find anywhere else. But even THIS is not evil, it is an act of Desire for Love, and it is an Act of Compassion by the Women who give this Love.

And for those who are not in search of Sex from the Girls but just want to have someone show them around Thailand, someone who can Speak Thai, and a little English, there are Girls who can serve as VIP Travel Guides in those Bars as well. They can show any Tourist many places they might not have seen otherwise and give any tourist the Greatest Thai Vacation they could Dream of.

But as I mentioned earlier, Pattaya is also a place for Happiness in many forms, this week it is Music, it is a place where people can relax and sit on the beach and have a Beer, when doing such things is illegal in many parts of the World. So in Pattaya you can live out your Dreams, even if your Dream is to sit on the Beach and have a Beer, in Pattaya you CAN.

Others like to have a Farm in Pattaya just off the Beach, there are nice green fields of Pasture, or some come to Worship at the Large Buddha on the Mountain Top one of the Largest Buddhas in Thailand in one of the most Beautiful Locations. There is a small Zoo near the Center of town. There is an Amusement Park not far from there where people can go to be happy in a different way. There is Xyte Night Club where people can Dance and have fun in a Different way, and if you want to see a Lady Boy Show, they have clubs that offer that too.

So as you can see Pattaya represents Peace and Happiness in many forms above all else.

So I really don't like it when people try to associate Rodent Scum like these Bikers with Pattaya as if THEY Represent Pattaya. Because I know they do NOT represent Pattaya. Go to Pattaya and see for yourself, there is far more there than you might imagine.

Yeah, and if some guy in Nigeria says he wants you to recover millions of dollars from a Lost bank account, don't do that either.

Also beware of cute looking Russian Girls who fall madly in love with you in few short e-mails. (Actually I think there are a few Thai Girls who caught on to they scam too.)

One sign that you have already been scammed is you're running Windows Vista. Scam artists KNOW that anyone stupid enough to run Vista is an easy mark.

Speaking of which, a "computer tech" who runs Vista? Never heard of it.

That's like a Computer Tech who runs ME it doesn't exist. Unless they are extremely poor or don't know how to use Ubuntu.

(I like the post that suggests you go to Ubuntu.com that's was good. )

Think before you click, that's the best rule of thumb.

President George W. Bush wrote most of that stuff right into a Constitutional Amendment here in the US, PERMANENTLY! And no matter how many people jumped up and down and screamed about it, it still stayed in there, and when the people elected Obama thinking he would repeal it all, it is STILL on the Books as of today.

I realized Thailand was falling under the Influence of American Laws when I left from Florida to go to Pattaya, and saw them implementing the exact same Laws in Pattaya they had just passed in Florida only a year before, almost to the Letter.

Many of these Laws are suspected to be the Work of the Bilderberg Group and the Banking Cartels who took over and did the same things in England before they even knew what happened and created the Euro before anyone could say "What?".

Now they have plans to Implement the Amero in the US under the North American Union Plans which will join together Canada, US, and Mexico in the same way they did Europe, and effectively destroy the Constitutions (AND FREEDOMS) of those countries.

Often times these Groups will do things like a Magic Trick, they draw your attention to some "Bad Guys" or "Terrorists" (Many times they paid off to create the diversion in the first place) then they implement these new "Security measures" to "Fight the Bad Guys"

when in Reality they are Assuming Control of the People in every country in the world for the purpose of Enslaving the People so They can get Richer, and we get Poorer. They Implement these Security Laws without any Checks and Balances because once people finally realize what has happened, there will be World Wide Rebellion. But by then it will be too late. They will already have the Legal justification to Imprison anyone who opposes them. They Brain wash the Police and military by using these new Laws they Created, and they just tell them "Go Enforce the Law" and they blindly accept these orders without realizing they are just puppets for the Banking Cartels who most likely already BOUGHT Thailand.

True the Red Shirts DID in fact Embarrass the Thai Government when they threw a big Riot and Disrupted the World Asian summit in Pattaya a while back, and it IS True that one of their Leaders is being Prosecuted right now, so they DO have to be on Guard. So I DO see a need for such Martial Law regarding the Red Shirts.

I just hope they don't use the Red Shirts to implement the Bilderberg Group's master plans in Thailand.

Cause I was planning to Run away from the US to go Live on a little Island in Thailand to get away from all the BS in the US.

If the Bilderberg Group takes over Asia before I can get out of the US, then that pretty much screws up that plan doesn't it?

Guess I have to buy a Boat.

I am Happy to see the Police got a big one. As for Tuk Tuk drivers, last time I checked they don't have Tuk Tuks in Pattaya.

I am also Happy to see the Police are showing a sincere interest in Pattaya. I just hope they preserve the Freedom they have in Pattaya to do what they do, (Which is why most people go to Pattaya in the First place.) I am Happy to see them Arresting Embezzlers, or even Drug Dealers, or Thieves, Con Artists, people in Gangs, stuff like that, but they need to leave the Girls alone, unless they are busting someone for Slave Trafficking, or Forcing them into Prostitution against their will, I would gladly like to see all of those guys busted, and all those Girls set free.

But I worry whenever people start talking "Crackdown" they are usually talking about Implementing Christian Laws. Which is totally unfair. But Cleaning up the average scum is a good thing. I am glad they show an interest. Now they need to round up all the Red Shirts who cause Riots and Terrorize Foreign Nationals from around the world and disrupt World Asian Conferences and stuff like that.

Then they need to focus on these idiots who have bombed the Discos in the past, that would be good.

But setting up an Interpol in Pattaya makes perfect sense to me. I'm glad to hear they did it.

This keeps me wondering who the Good Guys are?

I am a Democrat, and I remember when the Red Shirts did that Evil Protest Riot and chased all the Dignitaries away from the Asian UN Summit in Pattaya a while back, and now they are coming out like they are the Good Guys who discovered and Evil plot by the current Administration? Yet they don't actually HAVE copies of the Documents, all they have is a Statement of Hersay that such documents exist? If I was the Democratic Administration I would have just stated no such documents exist PERIOD.

After all if they ARE Classified, that means you don't even have to acknowledge that a classified subject even exists! So why are they admitting to evidence that the opposition doesn't even have?

Do these guys even have Law Degrees?

Do they Hire Lawyers at all before they comment?

The whole thing appears rather childish from an objective perspective in my opinion.

I don't think stirring up a bunch of stuff with Cambodia is going to help anyone, in anyway regardless of Who said What.

The BEST thing Thailand can do is strive towards a positive healthy relationship with Cambodia, regardless of what some idiot may have said. The PEOPLE of a Country are more important than the opinions of ONE misguided leader. Remember that.

And I do not believe that Foriegn Policy should be made based on a Squabble about one little Temple, and Comments from a Misguided Leader. The best thing to do in this Situation is act more Grown up about the whole thing, and ignore it all.

Better yet extend some act of Kindness Towards Cambodia to show that none of this even affected the Opinions of the Current Administration. Because if you allow someone to Control you- THEY WILL.

If the Reds thing they can gain some kind of Control just by stirring up everyone's emotions, then they Succeed as Psychological Terrorists. However if they are completely ignored, and instead the Opposite Action is displayed than they wish to inspire, then they will have failed Utterly.

Besides, Cambodian people make Really Good Doughnuts!

Sua*

I don't know of any direct flights, but I was inspired to comment on Angeles City after reading all the negative stuff about the place in some of the Replies.

I was Stationed in Angeles City Philippines from 1989 to 1991 when Mt Pinatubo blew up. I lived in Santa Maria Sub Division by Didi's Pizza for that time.

Part of my job there was knowing the City and informing visiting guests about the area. For fanatical religious types you might think of yourself as "Holier than Thou" when you talk of Angeles City as "Sin City"

and YES the majority of people who go there DO go there for the Girls no doubt, and Angeles City IS very much like Pattaya, with a few exceptions, Pattaya has Beach, Angeles City does not,

Pilipinas are Christian or Catholic, the majority of Thai Girls are Buddhist, so you might find it more to your liking if you are Christian to visit Angeles City rather than Pattaya.

The Food is WAY different, Thai food is Way Better, Filipino Culture is more Spanish Influenced, so you have more Spanish Traditions like Fiestas, yet Filipinos are also Asian, so you have a Mix of Asian and Spanish Culture which you might find interesting. Filipinos are more like Westerners than Thais, and many of them can already speak more English than Thai girls, so if you are having problems with a Language Barrier maybe Angeles City is the place to go.

Now let me say a little bit about the PEOPLE of Angeles City for a moment; while I was stationed there I used to go to Manila many times to check out the Bars in Manila and one thing I noticed was how much more Down Home Angeles City is compared to Manila. Manila is more like Bangkok, Angeles City is more like Pattaya, but that also means the people in Angeles City are more Friendly, and Caring. There was a many a night I took a Girl home without paying any bar fine, there was a many a girl stayed with me without charging me and that is an Example of how they are. There was a many of Free Drinks given to me in Angeles City Bars, and several days I took about 15 girls to the Movies at one time, and didn't have to pay anything more than the Movie Tickets, That's how they are. While I lived there I used to keep a Notebook and write down who was going bar fine everynight and who was still there at the end of every night. By doing this I got to know that inside many of those Bars there are College Students and Virgins- YES! That's right I said VIRGINS! I know because I had one! You have to pay a little extra for a Virgin, but they are there. So for all you fanatical religious types I ask you; how "Sinful is a Virgin in your Book?"

And many (not all) of the Girls in the Bars in Angeles City look at the Bars like Dating Clubs. Their goal is to find someone who will marry them and take them away from there. So they do not consider themselves as Prostitutes even though YOU do. It is more YOUR mind which is Sinful than it is THEIRS.

Comparing what the Girls do for the guys in the Bars in Angeles City to the Girls in Tijuana Mexico for example, in Tijuana they are almost Strickly by the hour, they care NOTHING about the Customer and many times they just lay there like they are dead. In Angeles City they will go anywhere you want to go, the Movies, Dancing, Dinner, where-ever, and then at the end of the night they will screw your Brains out like they are trying to convince you to KEEP them, and stay with you all night and go out with you to breakfast. THEY CARE. Where many do not. THAT is the difference. So when you try to cheapen that by talking about how Sinful they are,

it's like talking about the difference between how the Crimes rates Rise during Christmas yet no one is offering to screw my brains out for a Christmas gift so how can you say Christianity is about Love?

It's the same thing.

Actions speak louder than Words.

And THAT is what I think you should judge Angeles City by.

But MY heart is actually in Pattaya now.

Sua*

See what happens when you guys make restrictions on your Thai Visa Forum that states "you cannot use Thai except in the Thai Language Section". Maybe you should have thought about that before, you might have passed.

Looks to me like the Thai Government is just trying to filter out the Scam Artists and Con Artists and giving the Benefits to those who actually show a sincere effort to Love Thailand, instead of creating a haven for unscrupulous individuals who just want to come rape and pillage the Thai people for their own personal gains.

My Suggestion is to appeal to the Thai Visa Forum administrators to let you speak more Thai.

Finally you guys are getting

what you got coming to you.

I'm so glad.

Sua*

Following is a link to the report in the Thai press, with images of the corpse. Pretty gory, but perhaps it can help in the identification process.

View at your own discretion.

http://www.siangtai.com/TH/newspage1_detai...p?News_ID=24101

Sorry, I don't see any Pics on that link, I also noticed that people who tried to post the Pics directly in this Forum have had the Pics removed. Lots of TALK about Pics, but I don't see any pics. Just thought I'd let you know.

Excellent idea, I have proposed this very same concept in my book, and I am very happy to see that the Thai Officials are understanding what I was talking about as well. It will allow more official communication between Police and Prostitutes which will help make the Girls who are part of Human Trafficking and Slave Prostitution stand out more making it possible to purify the Prostitution Industry and make it something that is only done by willing participants, instead of being forced into it against their will. The Girls will receive benefits like any other Job, and pay could also be regulated by the Government which could result in the girls actually earning more money. Looks like a win-win situation all the way around I think.

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This is one of the most interesting Threads I have seen posted on this site. I think one of you guys who likes to write should sit down with a Thai Lawyer, and get the whole story, and then maybe make yourself useful and draw up a Proposal to present to the Government of Thailand, to get the story straight for everyone. Because many of you are absolutely right this issue could result in a firestorm of shiit for a lot of people. And if you guys figured out something that is on the books that is not right, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT besides sit around and complain and write Sarcastic Comments.

This issue is HUGE, it could mean a lot to a lot of people if you got it straightened out. If you just sit around and complain about things like this instead of doing your part to make a difference, you wind up being nothing but a bunch of grumpy old men.

And you can't talk about the lack of intelligence of Thai Gov officials if you act just as stupid as they do.

If you Scrolled down this Far, you're doin REALLY good!

I am a US Born American. I study not only One Language but Several, as well as the evolution and development of Dielects which are different from actual languages.

There is Slang in every language, and to Hate someone for the Slang they use is only justified by scrutinizing the context and the environment in which the Slang is being used. But judging someone simply based on the Slang they use, is usually not a good idea.

But getting back to the main points of the Original post, the term "Chillin Out" speicfically equates to Kwam Yen, or to Relax, and act Cool, or without problems. Such as in a Mellow way.

There are many Cultures throughout the world who Hate or Riducule others because of Slang or Dielect, it is a Tribal Defense mechanism in Psychology, which serves to preserve and divide one tribe from another.

In the US many Northerners Riducule the Southern Speech. The same kind of thing happens between Toyko Japanese, and the people of Okinawa. The same thing happens between people from Illocos Norte Philippines and people in the Visayas.

And there are many Americans who if the even SEE a Brit on TV will immediately change the Channel.

We all choose to decide for ourselves what is the Correct way to think and act.

I choose to Accept everyone, I might Mock a particular speech sometimes, but that is mostly in "Fun" where I actually admire the Cuteness of the way a person speaks. It is in an affectionate manner not with a hateful heart.

Those who think like that are more righteous I think.

Yeah, Yesterday I posted a question asking if anyone knew exactly what was going on with the whole Political situation, cause I have been away for a while, and my post was mysteriously deleted.

I guess we're not suppose to ask those kinds of questions around here or something.

So I have been doing a little in depth research on all of it, and I am Learning that Thai Politics is like trying to unravel a ball of Spaggetti. It's a mess no matter which way you look at it.

For example, who wrote the Article in the Thai Constitution that states it is illegal for a Politician to host a TV Show?

How does that affect his ability to do the Job Correctly?

Even if I didn't like the Guy very much, I still would not write a Law in the Consititution like that.

Nominees for President here in the US appear on Talk shows all the time, so the public can get to know them better.

I think that is a good thing, not a bad thing. How does Censoring a Prime Minister out of sight equate to "Freedom"? That's just one point I don't understand.

Then recently they just passed another Law that says you can not use the Image of the Buddha with any Commerical Advertisements? What if you are advertising a Temple or Buddhist Related Service? What if you just want to pay Homage to Buddha? And does that mean that all the Colleges in Thailand will also have to Remove their Affiliation with Christianity as well? Or does these new Laws just intend to Bias Thailand towards Christianity, by allowing Christians to Advertise using the Cross such as many of the Colleges in Thailand do (A College IS a Commercial Business) while suppressing anything related to Buddhism? Is THAT the Goal of the new administration? To Supress Buddhism in general? Do you think that is Fair?

Thai Politics is interesting to study, and ponder the Logic and Movitations behind it all. Who is all of this going to benifit in the Long Run?

Buddhism Deals with Compassion and Understanding, Christianity Bases itself on Hatred and Contempt of all others.

Maybe this is why they need to pass Laws to keep Buddhist Images out of Sight while allowing the Promotion of Christian images?

Things that make ya go Hmmm.

Things to Bring to US:

Thai Keyboards (Not the Stickers the Computer KEYBOARDS) No one Has them in US.

Thai Magazines especially LIPS, IMAGE, FORMEN, they sell for about $20-$30 each here in US easy!

Thai Satillite TV Boxes Especially Free To Air TV Boxes Pre Programmed for Thai TV (Direct TV in US will cost you a Fortune).

Thai Satillite Radio Sirius (PreProgrammed for Thai Radio) Cause you can't sign up for Thai Satillite Radio in the US.

Thai Dictionary Software (Cause most Thai Stores on the Web don't have it.)

Thai Cook Books (US Book Stores have SOME, but they don't include things like Luk Chub)

Flat Screen TVs (LG Manufactures Flat Pannel TVs in Bangkok) Here in US the Price will be 3 times as much as Thailand.

The same goes for Computer Monitors made by LG.

Anything that is Manufactured in Thailand that you want, Bring it, unless you want to pay 4 times as much for it here.

Companies that are in Thailand are Intel, Uniden, CTX, LG, Samsung, and lots more. If you know the Factory is in Thailand Bring it, cause not many things are Made in US anymore. Oh yeah, I hope your kids like working in Restaurants, cause there is not many Manufacturing Jobs here either. And if the manufacturing Plants are in Thailand where do you think the Engineering Jobs are? Thailand. So get used to a Servant Class Society if you are coming to US.

Bring RUBBER! Thailand Manufactures lots of Rubber, and you could turn lots of Money on it here.

Those little Flashlight Stun Guns they sell on the Street, They don't have them here.

They usually have the Latest and Greatest Cell phones in Thailand like at least one Year before we get them here in the US.

The same goes for most Clothing Styles. The US is one year behind the Style Trends in Asia, it has always been like that for a long time.

Oh yeah, can you Bring me a fine looking Thai Babe while you're at it?

Maybe about 25-30 Slim, sexy, you know the type.

I have been Moving around a lot lately, haven't had a lot of time to focus on the Bangkok News and Political stuff.

People tell me there is Protesting in Bangkok and I'm like "Oh yeah? AGAIN?"

I was wondering if there is anyone out there who is really paying attention to what is going on, and can please post a whole story about what has happened in the past year so I can get caught up here a little.

Cause I read the News, but all I get is bits pieces and fragments of the Story, instead of getting an understanding of what is really going on. I mean in one News Article all I learned was someone was disqualified for hosting a Cooking Show? You're kidding right? That is actually a reason to disqualify someone in Thailand? What other strange reasons can Politicians get the Axe for? And in the Political arena who is the good guys and who are the Bad guys now? I'm beginning to lose track. My Head is spinning just trying to get a grip on all of it. Last I heard Thaksin was the Evil Republican. They got rid of him, then what happened? Where did it go wrong from there? They had an election and did it Count or not?

Who won that whole thing? Or they still haven't decided so they have to have ANOTHER election to solve the Dispute over the 1st election? How does that work?

If someone doesn't get it straight pretty soon it looks like Civil War is on the Horizon no?

So who is the good guys, and who is the Bad Guys right now? Who is doing what wrong the most?

Enlighten me a little here okay?

Thanks,

Sua*

My name is Mark Evans

46 years old, American Citizen,

I Study and Speak Thai everyday

I want to Find a Job in Thailand, and Marry my Thai Dream Girl, then Buy land, build a house and live happily ever after in Thailand. Eventually becoming a Thai Citizen.

I need a company that is willing to Hire me then Process the Work Visa papers with the Ministry of Foriegn Affairs in Thailand to allow me to legally work and live in Thailand.

I Prefer Pattaya, Jomtien, Puket, Ko Samui, areas but I am also interested in working in BKK, or even Chang Mai.

I would also accept positions working for Thai Government or Military in exchange for long term Visa and possible Thai Citizenship. I am strong and physically fit and healthy.

Skills:

PC Repair, Computer hardware Tech, Basic HTML 4, Basic Electronics, Photography, Digital Video/Audio Recording and Editing, image manipulation, Hotel and Guest Services, Restaurant Management, Services Supervisor. M-16 Qualified, .38 Qualified, 12 Guage Qualified, practice Martial Arts Arnis/Kali. Radio Communications, Scanners, Computer Networks.

I can also Sing, Act and Dance, Play the Guitar, and Keyboards, and occassionally tell a few jokes if I'm in the right mood.

I'm willing to do anything you want me to do if you can get me a Long Term work Visa, as long as it is Legal.

I can Teach English, or I can fight the Muslims in the South, I can run your Internet Cafe, or Teach a Class on Basic PC Repair, or maintain a Network of PCs for your Business. Or I can work as a Photographer for your magazine or Newspaper.

I am very versatile, and flexible for the right person.

A few exceptions: To maintain the Loyalty to the fundemental ideas of the country of Thailand I will only work for Buddhist Organizations, or Hindu Organizations. I have no interest in working for Christians or Muslims, due to the fact that these Religions are based on Scriptures which promote ideas of Hatred and Contempt, and undermine the fundemental concepts and principals which Thailand was founded on. This is not because of any Religious bias on my part, it is due to the WORDS which are Written in the Scriptures of the Bible and the Karan, which breeds Hatred and Contempt upon the people of the world. If you want proof of this all you have to do is look at the number of people who are killed by these Religions each year. Then consider the number of people who are oppressed by these Religions, and you will begin to understand my position. I wish to work to HELP the people of the world, not Kill, imprison, or oppress them for violating Christian or Muslim beliefs.

If you are interested in Helping ME live and work in Thailand, please let me know.

Thanks*

Mark

(Sua)

It is obviously a sad thing when someone dies, but in my studies of International Law, one of the first things they teach you is not to get into Fights with the Locals, which constitutes an "International Incident" not to mention as everyone pointed out the Locals tend to back each other up which lowers the odds a bit. The fact that these guys COULD have walked away from this incident proves they were LOOKING for Trouble. The Thai Guys more than likely looked at the other Guy's attack as an insult to them. (You are suppose to Respect your Host even if your Host is not nice). So the Thai Guys more than likely felt like it was some kind of Patriotic Duty to beat the living crap out of these Foriegners to teach them some respect. Besides the Thai Guys more than likely were just doing what they were told to do, in trying to get Customers into the bar in the first place, I don't think they were out there trying to intentionally try to offend people. So when the Foriegners reacted with an Attitude and tried to start a fight, the Thai guys probably felt like they had to defend themselves, after all they were just at work doing their jobs, and a bunch of Foriegners try to pick a fight with them? What are they suppose to do? They are being PAID to work there, the Foriegners could have gone anywhere else they wanted, but the Thai Guys had to stay at that Location because they were being Paid to be there. It seems to me, like a grave misunderstanding that got out of Control. I don't think the Thai guy that Stabbed the Guy in the Leg was trying to Kill the guy, or he might have tried to Stab the guy in the Face instead of the Leg or maybe in the heart, but he chose to stab him in the Leg more than likely to stop the guy from moving forward towards the Thai Guys. If the guy can't walk, then he can't fight too well. So the Thai Guy was most likely going for a Mobility wound, not a Fatal Strike. Many Thai Guys play around with Martial Arts a lot, I am also a Martial Artist, and if you are a Martial Artist you know very well the difference between landing a Fatal Strike, and Landing a Wound to stop an attacker from moving forward towards you. Just from the looks of it, that wound was made in defense not in Offense.

The fact the guy died from that wound was most likely purely an accident on both sides of the fence.

Each group is equally guilty for this Tragedy from my perspective.

I hope that some good may come from this, maybe the Pattaya Police might pay closer attention to Walking Street, instead of relying on the Tourist Police to handle it all the time. In the Philippines they have an armed Guard outside every Bar. (Almost) I don't think Thailand needs to get to that point, but a little extra security might not be a bad idea.

I don't think Walking Street is Sleazy, Walking Street is one of my favorite places in the Whole World, and I have been many many place on this Planet. I like eating the Barbecue they cook down there, I like walking from Bar to Bar and Joking around with the Girls, and they always have treated me good when I was there. I never had to worry about anything walking down Walking street. When I lived in the Philippines I had to worry about being shot every time I walked around the Corner by the NPA. In Mexico I have to worry about the Cops planting Drugs on me or Arresting me because I am carrying a Cell phone which is Considered Contraband in Mexico.

In Thailand the Customs and Police are always fair with me, I never have a feeling of Fear when I am in Thailand like I do in other Countries. In Thailand I always feel at home. I Respect the Thai people because of this, I respect the Police because they treat me fair, and I show respect to every Thai person I meet as if they are my own Blood. And I have never had a Problem in Thailand, instead the Thai people I have met have gone out of their Way to help me. Many times I have Girls who stayed with me for Free just because they wanted my Company, I had a College Girl who had her own Apartment offer me a place to stay when I was coming to Thailand, I had many Nice Girls in Thailand who didn't work in the Bars that treated me like Family. So I don't like the Characterizations about Thai people only doing things for Foriegners just because they want Money, That sounds Racist to me, and if you feel that way, you need to get out of Thailand as soon as possible and get to where you believe the people don't do it just for the money.

This is a Sad Story, I am sorry the Guy Died, I am sorry the Fight took place, but I think that each side of this Story needs to be carefully understood before jumping to Racist Conclusions, and Degrading Thailand because of this Incident.

Sua*

The guy was in the USAF for and extended period of time. Honorably discharged in 1991. Wonder why he elected to be discharged or did the AF elect to discharge him(section 8).

I find this interesting, you try to take something which is GOOD, such as my Service in the USAF and my HONORABLE Discharge and turn it around into a negative Thought of Hatred and Contempt. This pretty much shows us where YOUR mind is Focused.

But to answer the question, I got out of the US Airforce in 1991 because I wanted to have more Control over my Life. I put in for Embassy Duty in Bangkok, they didn't give it to me, so I got out, so I could try to figure another way to go to Thailand. I also put in for Embassy Duty in Manila, Japan, and other places in Asia, but after having a bunch of Remotes in Asia already, they wanted me to stay in the US mainland for a while. I didn't like that idea, so I got out of my own Choosing, I wasn't forced out. In fact they really wanted me to stay. In a time when they were offering people bonuses to get out, they wanted ME to stay. But I wanted more control over my own life, that's why I got out.

It must be easy for you to put those who did something down, I wonder, did YOU ever do even Half as much as I did for YOUR Country? You seem to think you are better than me in so many ways, it just makes me wonder where all that comes from? For one who focuses on trying to make ME look like I might be crazy, it seems more Crazy for me to see YOU trying to think with so much Hate towards someone you barely even know. Looks to me like it is YOUR mind that isn't right huh?

Just so everyone knows, NO I am not Trolling! YES I am for real!

And all this hateful talk about how Naive I must be? Well, You're the Haters not me, I'll just leave you to your own Misery rather than get involved in it with you. The FACTS are, I have been more places and done more things than most people in this World. If that makes you a little jealous of me, and makes you want to hate me for my experience, or if you think you have to put me down to make yourself feel better, then that is YOUR problem not mine.

I am writing this Post to get some information, that was my Request.

YES I am willing to Give up my US Citizenship in exchange for Thai Citizenship, but the way I look at it is if I want to live the Rest of my life in Thailand, married to a Thai girl raising a Family in Thailand Working in Thailand building a Life in Thailand, why would I need a US Citizenship? It didn't help me much serving in the US Military, I didn't gain any kind of Profound respect, or any decent Jobs as a Result of Serving Honorably in the US Airforce, so what is the point in staying in a Country that cares more about the people in Iraq than the Vets who lay Homeless Freezing on the Streets of the US every night? What is the Point of holding on to a Citizenship of the US when YO MTV Gangstas that sing about Killing people, are more respected than a Veteran of the US Military? Why should I care about holding on to a US Citizenship when in many Cities of the US they would rather hire an immigrant of another country over a US Military Veteran. (Search out Insourcing in America). Hundreds of Thousands of US Citizens are Homeless without food Clothing or Shelter, and are Hated by the Majority of the rest of Societies around here. This is something I should be proud to hold on to?

Thailand has what I want out of Life. I Love Thai Women more than any other type of Woman in the World, I have tried many Women of all different kinds prior to making this decision, so I know. Thailand has Style and Class, if you can't see it, then you don't value Thailand like I do. I am a Cook, Thai people Pride themselves on being some of the BEST Cooks in the entire World! The Most Artistic Garnishes in the World were created by Thai People.

I Love Thai Religion, I studied and Practiced Buddhism for more than 10 years. Buddhism is based on Compassion and Understanding which is Greater than the Hatred and Contempt that is written in the Scritpures of Christian and Muslim Religions.

Thai Dance Music often speaks of Love and Romance, where as American Dance Music speaks of Hating people, Killing people, doing Drive by Shootings, Robbing people, calling Women "Hos" and disrespecting Women, mostly thoughts of Hatred and Contempt.

Thai Customs are Polite and Respectful, "The Land of Smiles" illustrates how Thai people are taught to Smile at Strangers on the Street. In most US Cities if you smile at someone on the Street they will call the Cops on you or report you as the Bad Guy in some way. Hate is the previlent thought process for Americans in most places in the US.

I could point out dozens of other examples as how Thai Culture is BETTER than American Culture, but I feel like if I have to explain myself anymore than I already have, then I am addressing the wrong Audience.

I do appreciate the links that some of you provided to help me learn what I need to know. If anyone can get me closer to living in Thailand, and becoming a Thai Citizen, let me know.

Thanks,

Mark*

I read the Thai Immigrations Web Site, so I know the requirements such as 2million baht, but I know there is always a way as long as there is a Will. So here I will state my Case, and hopefully someone in the Thai Immigrations or Thai Gov, might read this and pull some strings for me.

I am a White American, 45 years old, Ex US Military (Airforce), discharged Honorably in 1991, I first became interested in Thailand and Thai people in 1987 when I met some Thai girls in Guam, then again when I was stationed in the Philippines in 1989, then again when a Co-worker of mine was Thai in 1992, then again when I started learning Web design and I did a Asian Models Web Site for Asian Fashion Models all over the world, and I got a lot of response from many Thai Models and Thai Magazines, which drew my attention even more to Thailand. It started feeling like Thailand was suppose to be something important in my life, because everytime I met someone from Thailand I got this feeling like I knew them, but I forgot their name or something, and they were getting some familiar feelings about me as well. So this lead me to start thinking more seriously about Thailand, I began to study Thai Language, and learn more about Thai Culture as well.

Everything I learned about Thailand felt good, felt like something Positive, something comfortable that I really liked.

As time went by I found myself beginning to compare the Life Style of living the in US with Thai Style and Culture, things like the Style of Music, and the Trends associated with the Culture, the VALUES of Thai people, Verses the Lack of Values in the US. I found myself even MORE drawn to Thai Culture the more I learned about Thailand and Thai people the more I fell in Love with all of it.

Then I Traveled to Thailand Twice, each time I felt as if I was home the Minute I walked out the door in the Airport, I felt like I was Home. Keep in mind I served 7 years in the US Airforce, I traveled all over the world, I lived in the Philippines, Guam, Hawaii, Visited Korea, Japan, Mexico, and many other places, but I never felt like I did when I visited Thailand. Some places I visited I experienced a kind of Culture Shock or Fear of the Unknown or not knowing who to Trust, but when I arrived in Thailand it was a very warm feeling as if I had found what I had been looking for my whole life. I feeling of complete satisfaction, and contentment, as if I just came home for the first time in my life. That's how it feels when I visit Thailand. This lead me to take my Thai Language Studies more seriously, and I started studying how to Cook Thai foods, and learn all the Movie Stars names, and listen to all the Music, and know the Thai Music Artists, and strive to completely enjoy Thai Culture in every aspect.

Now I feel like I am waiting for a Bus, or like I am waiting for some Miracle to happen that can allow me to Live in Thailand.

I don't have 2 million Baht, but I have always wanted to Marry Mamee, (Napakaprapa Narkprasit) or (if she doesn't want me), a Beautiful Thai Girl, and live on the Beach somewhere in Thailand.

I am a Trained Computer Repair Tech, I can do basic HTML Web Design, I am a Photographer, I can do Hotel Front Desk, or other Travel Indusrty Jobs, I can Speak Tagalog, Japanese, Thai, and some Spanish, as well as being born English Speaker, and I have the ability to Teach English to Thai people as well.

I know how to do Digital Audio/ Video Recording and Editing, and I know how to use a Video Camera pretty well, I made my own Movie, including playing Keyboards, Guitar, and doing the Narrations for all the Sound Tracks. These Skills can be used to create Multimedia Learning tools in Video Format if you need me to do those kinds of things.

I also know how to use Different kinds of Radio communications equipment, VHF, UHF, AM, FM, Scanners and Transimitters, I also understand basic Anntenna Design & Engineering. I know a little Electronics and have been studying on designing and building my own Electric Cars, which I would be willing to try to mass produce for Thailand if you want me to. With my background I could perform a number of Jobs in Thailand, I would be willing to help fight the Muslim Terrorists in the South, or Teach Thai people, or I would be happy with a little Internet Cafe, and Computer shop on Ko Samui or near some other Beach area such as Pattaya or Puket.

I have knowledge in Health & Nutrition and Diet Therapy, I also practiced Martial Arts for many years, this could be useful to someone. I would be happy working as a Photographer for a Magazine or Newspaper, or doing Intel for the Thai Military. My point here is, there is A LOT I could do for Thailand. If you just opened the doors for me, and let me in.

So after reading all of this you can see I am serious about living in Thailand, this decision has ruled my life, it has been my entire focus in life for many years now. I am Living in the US and wanting to Live in Thailand. There are plenty of Thai people who dream of coming to the US, maybe someone in the Thai Gov can work out a Citizen Exchange Program with the US Government or something. I will do anything to live in Thailand. I am just trying to figure out how to make it happen at this point. If anyone can help me find Legal reason to live in Thailand, please let me know. And like I said before I am willing to Marry a Thai Girl, but I am not going to Marry just anyone just to come to Thailand, but I plan to Love a Thai Woman someday after I get to Thailand, so if Mamee was to read this or one of her Relatives, let her know I am dreaming of HER, just as much as I am Dreaming of Thailand. I wrote and Recorded the Song "Thepthida Mamee" for her Birthday last year. That just shows you how much I think of her.

Let me know if you any of you can help me out.

Thanks,

Mark*

The Day the Earth Stood Still

JOIN THE WORLD WIDE STRIKE EFFORT!

What is the World Wide Strike Effort?

On Sept 11th 2007 every person in the World should Stop Working.

Every US Military Soldier Should Stop Fighting.

Every Iraqi Soldier should Stop fighting and agree to a Cease Fire.

Every Business, Every Service should Stop Working.

( with the exception of Emergency and Essential Services.)

Around the World Everyone in the World should Stop what they are doing, And stay Home or March in the Streets to Protest the Evil Republican Empire World Wide.

The reason is, the Republicans in the US have Killed, Enslaved, and Imprisoned and Oppressed Millions of People world Wide. People in China, Thailand, Philippines, Iraq, and many other Poor Nations around the World are forced to work for the Republicans as Slaves for the Republicans. The Republicans have even reduced the people here in the US to being Slaves for the Republicans. We Work for Republicans, We pay Rent or Mortgage Payments to Republicans, we give our Money to Republican Banks, we Buy Republican Products, and in exchange for it all, they Reduce us all to Slaves and Kill and Imprison and Torture as many people as they can just so they can make Money for themselves.

On September 11, 2007 the Rein of the Republican Empire will come to an End. Because on that Day we will come together as a People WORLD WIDE and Declare our Independence from the Evil Republican Empire.

Everyone in the World who wishes to Join in our Efforts should Not Work, Should not Buy anything from Republicans, should not Pay Rent, and Should Pull all of your Money out of the Banks before September 11th 2007.

This is the Day we all should unite together as ONE Around the World, and SAY NO to the Republicans in EVERY country around the World. Those in Poor Countries should no Longer Submit to Republican Slavery, and DEMAND a Minimum Wage of at LEAST $4.00 per Hour. Equivalent to 4 US Dollars Per Hour. AROUND THE WORLD, we should stand up and Proclaim a WORLD WIDE MINIMUM WAGE of at LEAST $4.00 dollars Per hour. This will Prevent the Republicans from using the people as Slaves to make themselves Rich.

If everyone both the US, the Iraqis and all the Extremists, and Muslims all over Iraq and the Middle East, all Lay down their Weapons, and Call a Cease Fire on September 11th 2007 To Protest President Bush, and His Administration, and make a Statement that WE as a People World Wide WANT PEACE, EQUALLITY, FREEDOM, AND FAIRNESS FOR EVERYONE, not just the Republicans. And DO NOT RETURN TO WORK OR FIGHT, Until the Republicans have fallen from Power Completely. If you work after September 11th 2007 you should Work for Democracy, Work for Freedom and Equality, Work to help spread Wealth Distribution by Supporting a WORLD WIDE MINIMUM WAGE of at LEAST $4.00 per Hour in EVERY COUNTRY around the World.

PROTEST the Crimes of the Republican Parties in every Country World Wide, and in Every Country World Wide Prosecute the Republicans for the Crimes they have committed. We should not agree to support the Republican System the way it presently stands. Because here in the US the Legal people of this Country have shown by their own actions in failing to file even ONE CHARGE against the Republican Party for their Crimes against Humanity, and ignoring the Causes of Global Warming and Recklessly Endangering the Lives of everyone on the Planet. As well as Enslaving, Killing and Oppressing as many people as they can. Innocent Civilians were Killed in Iraq and the U.N. did NOTHING. This shows that the "System" has not only failed, but it no longer exists. Therefore an Election will do nothing to correct these Problems, if the Legal people have been willing to look the other way for some of the Greatest Crimes in US History, then the System is Corrupt beyond repair with just an Election.

The Japanese have studied the mind for Thousands of years, and it was the Japanese who first realized that War is an Obsolete Practice. Because no one actually wins in War. So this is why the best way to fight the Republicans Around the World, is not by staging a Civil War, but by hitting them where it counts. Take the money out of their hands. Remove their Power, the Republicans NEED Slaves, because they do not Work, they do not Fight in the Military, and they do not CARE about anyone else but themselves. So the best way to Defeat this kind of an Enemy is with the Japanese Tactic of "Soft Power".

By Refusing to Work until the World Stock Markets Crash, once the Stock Markets around the World Crash, the Republicans will Lose everything. They will lose all their Power, and all their Slaves because no one will agree to work for anything Less than $4.00 an hour ever again.

Then THE PEOPLE of the World can Build a NEW Democracy in each Country, where everyone receives the Respect they Deserve. And NO ONE will ever be treated as a Slave again. If the US Military Refuses to Fight the War for Profit for the Republicans, and the Iraqis agree to lay down their Weapons to show THEY want Peace as well. Then the US Military should Leave Iraq. Peace Keeping Forces from the U.N. may take over if they want to and if the Iraqis Request it. But the Bush War for Profit should End on September 11 2007 Enough is Enough.

We the People of the WORLD do not Want any more American or Iraqi Lives to be Lost in the Bush Holocaust. It should all End NOW! I do not believe there is ONE Single Soldier who really WANTS to be Killed in the Bush Holocaust War. I do not Believe there is ONE Single Iraqi who Really WANTS to Die in the Bush Holocaust War, for the Republicans Oil Pipeline Deal. Therefore being that the only person who really wants people to kill each other is BUSH, then I Call for all the American US Troops to Cease Fire on September 11th 2007 and end this War NOW! And in Return the Iraqi Soldiers should agree to a Cease Fire as Well, and if they do, the US Troops should begin Leaving Iraq immediately. Allow the Iraqi people to take care of their Own Country the way they see fit.

If the Iraqi Government Believes it still requires Military assistance after September 11th they can Request it from the U.N.

ALL people around the World, should Cease paying any Taxes until the Republicans in their Country have been arrested and Charged and Imprisoned for their Crimes. In the US more Tax Money is spent on Building up our Military than anything else. And if No one in this World really wants to be Killed in a War, then what are we doing? It is all a Mind Game played by the Republicans. It is War for Profit, and the more they do it the more they take Complete Control of the World. To Stop them we must JUST SAY NO. Stop Working, Stop fighting for the Republicans, Stop giving them Money, Stop Paying Taxes, just Stop EVERYTHING until the Republicans give up all their Money back to the people, and are arrested and convicted of their Crimes and Imprisoned or Shot for Treason, War Crimes, and Crimes against Humanity.

The way this plan will work, is everyone around the World Refuses to Work until the Stock Markets around the World Crash. Once the Stock Markets have Crashed, each individual will not work for LESS than the equivalent of $4.00 per hour US Dollars. The way that works is, even the Peasant Farmer in the Poorest Countries of the World, will re-calculate the Prices of his Crops, and not Sell them for Less than his Labor Charges of $4.00 per hour. People WILL pay the Price. You must have total faith in that, or the Plan will not work. Because the Republicans Enslave you by making you think no one will pay you what you want. As soon as you believe them and submit to them, then they win, and you become their Slave. To free yourself from the Republican Slavery, DEMAND $4.00 an hour, no matter what you made before, no matter what you do. Demand AT LEAST $4.00 an Hour. If you hold out, and do not accept any less. Then eventually the people will pay. If you have the FOOD, and everyone needs to eat, eventually they are going to pay you what you want no matter what.

If EVERYONE in Every Sector of Every Society all Raises their Minimum Wage to $4.00 per hour, then everyone will have the money to buy what they need. Every Economy in every country in the entire WORLD will rise up all at the Same time after the Stock Market Crash. Then the Republicans will not be able to afford to treat people as Slaves anymore anywhere in the World. Even the Poorest places in Africa should Demand at least $4.00 an Hour Minimum wage. Then there will be no where the Republicans can Enslave people anymore. The Republicans will become Powerless without their Slaves.

Then we can start working on throwing the Republicans in Jail for their Crimes because they will no longer have the money to bribe people and buy their way out of Jail anymore. They will no longer Control the Media, they will no Longer Control the Military, and less people will be getting killed. The Countries around the world can Relax because Bush will no longer be a Terrorist Threat to the World. The Bush Holocaust will END on September 11th 2007 in this way, it can end as it all began. And Bush the most Hated man in the entire World will finally be rendered powerless.

So on September 11th I ask you to Join together as ONE People around the World, and commit to Striking against the Evil Republican Empire and Protesting the Bush Holocaust which has Killed, Imprisoned, Tortured, and Oppressed MILLIONS around the world. Stand UP for FREEDOM, FOR WORLD WIDE EQUALITY, and FAIRNESS, and Stop Working until the World Stock Markets Crash.

Any questions should be directed to:

Usually most people are either too shy, scared to death just to ask about it, or simply don't know what the actual Regulations say. And being that THIS Section IS about Travel, I know this Question runs through many people's minds as they are packing their Bags to Head to Thailand.

WHAT IS ILLEGAL to Bring into Thailand?

Of Course we know that Drugs are illegal, but did you know that some places will freak out over VITAMINS, and Cold Medicine. I think that Psudeophedrine Hydrocholride can be Purchased in Thailand, but I think there is actually a Law about bringing it into the Country. It is illegal in many places, I'm not sure about Thailand. It is the ingredent used to make Crack, but it is also a Legal Cold Medicine, and many people just take the Cold Medicine by itself as a Sex Stimulant. But I think this Question about What is Legal, and what isn't should be a Topic on the Travel Section of this Site.

Another interesting Question is what about Sex items?

I was really worried about this the First time I went to Thailand. Because I really didn't KNOW what the Law was.

Sincerely trying to find out, I actually e-mailed the Customs people in Thailand. They never responded back to me.

But the way I understood the Law, Correct me if I am wrong, is, any Magazines showing Intercourse is the Definition of Pornography in Thailand. Magazines only containing nud_e Pictures are not Necessarily considered Pornography.

However a Written Book or Magazine that specifically talks about Sexual ACTS IS Considered Pornographic.

I don't really believe that Law is Righteous and I think that the Thai people need to Change those Laws and stop throwing people in Jail for admiring the beauty of Sex, and start worrying more about the Muslims Blowing everything up. But that is beside the point.

The Point is WHAT IS ILLEGAL? And What Isn't?

What about Whips and Chains? (Yeah, that's right, I said it.

When I went through Customs the First time carrying a bunch of Accessories

I was so worried about it I just said Screw it, I am going to the Red Zone and Declare the Stuff.

The Customs people in Thailand were very cool about it actually. They did not act like it was illegal in anyway.

However "Toys" I was told IS illegal. Such as Plastic Dongs or stuff like that.

But Accessories, such as Handcuffs, I got the impression from the Customs people that they are Technically NOT Illegal because they Technically are not Sex items. For example a Whip can be used on an Animal, so it can not be classified as a Sex item. Handcuffs can be used as Photography Props or for Cops, so they are not necessarily a Sex item either. Latex Clothing, is CLOTHING Period. Even Wrist Bands are Clothing items.

Chains are not Necessarily a Sex item either.

But I often wondered were the Customs people just acting Cool to me? Or is Whips and Chains Technically illegal?

I know that Photographers go through a lot of Scrutinty because they are afraid they are producing Porn. But I brought my Cameras in and out of Thai Customs a few times, and never had any Problems. The people who acted like real idiots was the US Customs, not the Thai Customs. I was always treated very well by Thai Customs Officers, and I respect them for their Professionalism. But the US Customs, MAN! If you are Comming to the US, Beware! The US Customs are Total D__ks! They Confiscated a Roll of Film I took while in Thailand cause they thought I was Producing Porn in Thailand. (But I wasn't it was just average out and about Vacation Pics).

But I think I would be Interesting if someone actually knew what the Law says in Thailand, could define it for everyone here, so we know.

WHAT IS Illegal, and What is Legal?

Especially the Vague Areas like Sex that they really don't clearly define in the Thai Websites.

Those who know or who have had experiences Good or Bad, should post to this Thread so we know.

Thanks,

Sua*

There is a Drastic Difference between FREEDOM and OPPRESSION, and I think the Thai people are beginning to learn exactly what that difference is. It took the Soviets a while to learn the same way, first they built an Iron Curtain, then realized they NEED the rest of the World to Survive. China tried the same thing, and it failed as well. It seems that as Smart as the people in the Government of Thailand THINK they are, they must have failed World History. When you get stupid people running your Government the Results become blatantly obvious. Look at what Bush did. Get an Idiot in Control, and you will loose all your Freedoms, simply because they do not understand or appreciate the meaning of FREEDOM.

Now I understand the Government's concerns, I for one agree with their ideas on many points. I don't like the idea of the YO MTV Gangsta influence seeping into Thailand like a Social Plague that will distroy Society. So I can understand why they might want to block that kind of influence from getting into Thailand.

As far as Chat Room causing Girls to get Raped, that is absurd. In order for two people to get together one has to tell the other their Location, this implies some sort of Consent. Then they both have to make a Conscious effort to be in the same place at the same time. Again you have to consent to put yourself in the right place at the right time. Now if Thailand is making efforts to Treat Love and Sexual Relations as "Evil" then they will in turn only create a Society that bases on Valuing Hatred as being higher than Love. Because through their actions they are implying that Love and Human Contact are some how "Evil". This in turn will create a Bitter Hateful Society which is exactly how the Society of the YO MTV Gangstas was born. Lack of Love caused Cho to shoot a bunch of people in the Virgina Tech Shooting, prohibiting Love and Human Contact is going to Create more Chaos than they know what to do with. But sometimes Stupid people have to learn the hard way.

So then the Question really becomes, once you decide to Censor, and you decide that Censorship is Okay, then you have to be Smart enough to know WHAT to Censor, and WHY? What Belief system are you using to base your Censorship on? And does this Belief System have Hatred written in it's Scriptures anywhere? Do they Hate others of Different Religions? Have their Believers ever Burned People at the Stake or Stoned them for Working on Sundays? Or Bombed places for Religious Reasons? Cause if the Scriptures you base your Censorship on contain Hatred in them, then that will be what is Reflected in your Society as a Result of Censoring out LOVE, you strengthen the HATE. Then the Hate will run ramped and create chaos and disorder beyond your wildest imagination. People shooting each other just for Fun like they do on the Streets of California today, or you will go so crazy trying to throw everyone in Jail that you imprison more than half the Population of the entire Country, as they have in the US already. In the US more than ONE THIRD of the entire WORLD Population of the Entire Planet is ALREADY in US Prisions. That is what happens when you base your Government and your Laws on Belief Systems based on Hatred and Contempt of all others. Compassion kind of goes right out the window, and Love is nothing more than a Distant memory. Is that what you want?

Either that or Thailand will evolve in to a Cold Lonely little place that is even MORE impoverished than it is already, due to isolation. Just like it happened to China and Russia when they tried it.

I Value what Thailand IS now, so I can understand how the Government wants to Protect it from becoming like California or New York, but if you are going to use Censorship, then you have to be extremely smart to know exactly WHAT to Censor and WHY. Or you are going to cause more Damage than good.

That's how I feel about it.

I feel like it is WORSE that the People Pulled the Blog on the mere assumption that this person was seen in "The Red Light District" as if to imply that #1 Sex should be Considered Evil, (Which it is Not, but I DO believe that everyone who THINKS Sex is Evil Does have every RIGHT to Cut off their Genitals in Protest of Sex, if they really sincerely believe that Sex is Evil that is.)

#2 Just Being in the AREA where Sex is the main Focus, should be considered Evil? (I don't Think So.)

If Diplomats and Dignitaries are all suppose to be above this kind of thing, then they are all more than Welcome to Cut off their Genitals in Protest as well. I mean if THAT is what they REALLY believe, then why not commit to those Beliefs ya know?

Wouldn't it be more Compassionate and admirable if the Diplomat was down there passing out Money and Flowers to the Girls showing he CARED about them, instead of being embarrassed just to be SEEN in their Company?

I think the fact that People are embarrassed or ashamed to be seen with the Girls or in the area with the Girls, only illustrates a person's LACK of Compassion. Because most of these Girls are in the Bars either because they need money, or because they actually enjoy the environment. Believe it or not some Girls actually LIKE Sex. And they LIKE it with Many Different Guys. I know because I have personally MET Girls like this.

I think of the Girls in the Bars as VIP Tour Guides. They offer the BEST Service that Thailand can Provide, they offer complete Strangers, LOVE and CARING. THIS IS NOT EVIL! IT is LOVE, and CARING, which are GOOD things. Only when the people incorporate Religions and Philosophies based on ideas of Hatred and Contempt, do they try to make Sex (the very origin of Human Existence) out to be something Evil. And to actually have a Business that Sells Love and Care, is considered outrageous to Religious Fanatics who base their Beliefs on Hatred and Contempt of all others. Yet a Doctor does the same thing, and they are paid well. A Bar Girl only Cares for people in a Different way, but it is STILL a form of Love and Caring. We should show Compassion and Understanding towards these Girls, not be embarrassed to even be SEEN with them.

I hope I made some kind of Sense here.