On 5/26/2024 at 7:13 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Is that the opportunity to bully people on social media, or live in mummy's basement and look at porn? You do realise that AI robotics is shortly going to remove most jobs from humans, don't you? It's already happening if one wishes to open one's eyes.

 

BTW, in my day we had unlimited opportunities in the jobs we had available- real jobs, not BS ones in "media". Jobs like carpenters, mechanics, electronics, telecommunications, plumbers, or farming. The dole was not an occupation, as it is now.

Yeah, probably including national service soldiers

Pretty sure that what he set out to do was to honor the serviceman by saying that he volunteered to serve his country regardless of the real risk to life. Unfortunately for him and the widow, Trump is pretty inarticulate and what he said was crassly hurtful and insensitive. Shouldn't be surprised that Trump isn't any good at this sort of thing. Wouldn't be surprised if he thought it a good idea to comp war widows with a night at one of his excellent hotels or offer a tour of his gold plated toilets and taps. He'd be surprised if they weren't awed and grateful Look, the man shook his wife's hand after she introduced him at an event. Shook her hand! Given that,  it's pretty clear that he shouldn't be calling war widows. Firing them yes, consoling them no.

Like watching a dog chase its own tail, occasionally catching it and biting it, but being truly flummoxed that the bite hurt. The Eastern Front is disintegrating and the Chancellor is desperately changing Generals. Who's to blame? The American people. They don't deserve him. Ends badly. Sad.

What else didn't the President know, and when else didn't he know it?

Nixon defended the integrity and honor of Erlichman, Hadleman and Colson to the last also. He defended their honor at the same time he was throwing them under the bus. Trump will do same with all but his blood and spawn.

What a giggle Putin must have had when the occurred at the G20 Meeting last week:

"Trump led off the meeting [with Putin] by expressing concerns that Russia had meddled in the U.S. election, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said."

Tillerson must now feel like a real male appendage. It was the President's son who was seeking to facilitate the very meddling that the President was expressing concerns about! But of course the President didn't express this concern - both he and Putin had a giggle together because they BOTH knew that Don Jnr, Kushner and Malefont were at the meeting with Putin's girl. So unless Tillerson was in on the joke he must feel right foolish having said what he did. Betrayed perhaps, but certainly less trustful of this CiC.

32 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

............In an office on the floor directly below Trumps office!! To consider that Trump senior was not briefed about this meeting is inconceivable. It will all come out.

Remember the brouhaha about suspicious goings on with the Server located in ...........Trump Tower?!!!!!!

There is a sense of dread emanating from this White House and the Republican Party. What will next drop from this poisonous tree, this duplicitous gaggle tweerking their open asses for the Russian bear's snout.

11 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

you cant win a court case by saying what are the odds….lol.

Gotta agree there. Either Donald Trump knew about the meeting and is hence a duplicitous liar hiding his near treasonous actions from the public or he didn't know and is hence an ignoramus knowing not when his very son, his son in law and his campaign manager meet with agents of the Russian government and then lie to him about having done so. No court needed, logic has done the judging in its stead ...lol

21 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Correct. Even more unbelievable is the fact we are expected to believe that Manafort the campaign Manager would have gone to such an explosively charged meeting without briefing Trump. It is just not feasible . It will all come out in the wash soon.

And all along Putin knew about the meeting and, unless he's truly and unbelievably stupid, Donald Trump MUST have known that Putin knew about it.How could the President not know this. Why has he lied about it and covered it up.

I understand that the AF1 flight back from G20 was fraught with arguments as to how to present this picnic hamper full of turd burgers to the public. There was hair pulling and scratching and biting and mutual accusation.

There is very damaging leaking coming from people very very close to this president.

So everyone in this Family knew about this meeting, but they all kept it from Dad? His ignorance about what his children and step children have been up to is staggering and even more staggering is that he arranged for them to get their fingers into very highly classified stuff. Why isn't he firing all of them now for not telling him about this? Surely that's the first thing he should do if they kept this from him. Putin knew about it and the President didn't?

"Trump spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders read a short statement from the president at the regular White House press briefing. “My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency.” "

If this is true, and Donald Trump Jnr is a "high quality person" and that his "transparency" is to be lauded, then why didn't he tell his father about this meeting? Oh right, he forgot. It didn't seem important.....Sure.

Donald Jnr never tells Donald Trump about this meeting? Kusher never tells Donald Trump about this meeting? Kushner never tells Ivanka Trump about this meeting and she never tells Dad Donald about his meeting? That just beggars belief. He was told, he knew, and in order to try to make sure that it didn't come out and show him to have been lying all along he went ahead and sacked Comey. What next? Donald Trump had FSB operatives over to dinner to discuss hair weaves but didn't know they were FSB operatives seeking not tips on hairpiece perfection but a lifting of sanctions in return for a leg up in the election? Really though, what else is there? This is getting bizarre and it's really starting to stink.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - how could any of them known, truly known that this was all put in place by Russian intelligence. For that to be known Boris and Natasha would have to come to the front door saying "hello, were from the FSB and we want to help you with the election. Then and only then is there a smoking gun.

Seems to me that it is precisely this sort of revelation that Donald Trump was trying to head off by sacking FBI's Comey.

You do have to wonder what else Putin has knowledge of that Donald Trump would rather not have in the public domain and what he would do to ensure that it doesn't become public.

What are the chances that Vladimir Putin did not know about this meeting between a known Russian lawyer and conduit for Russian intelligence agencies and Trump Jnr, Manafort and Kushner. Really, what are the odds that Putin did not know about this meeting that was held in Trump Jnr's office one floor below Donald Trump's office in Trump Tower. The odds of that are zero. Absolutely zero. Now what are the odds that Donald Trump did not know about this meeting and their contents? If he did know then both Donald Trump and those surrounding him have been lying hugely. If he didn't know, well, what does that say about him. Putin knows and the meeting was held by his son, his son in law and his campaign manager and it was held in his building but one floor below his office. The whole thing beggars belief. Someone going to be pushed off this careening bus and it's going to be ugly, very ugly.

Lock him up,  lock him up.

On 15/03/2017 at 11:36 PM, Grouse said:

Yep! I don't wish to know what your beliefs are. Why should you foist them on me? I particularly dislike that fish symbol on the back of cars. 

Fish on back of car foisting beliefs on someone else? Struth, what about posting on a public forum :)

I think this ruling simply says that there is no religious defense against being removed from a position in the workplace due to one's headgear/dress. So you can justifiably be asked to remove the headgear and if you don't you can be sacked. Of course there are medical defenses against being so removed from the workplace. Example: Bandages are holding in my brain or fixing on my face transplant.

Under this ruling any business can allow employees to wear whatever headgear or religious symbols they like.

Personally I couldn't give a toss what sort of headgear someone wears. Don't give a stuff about what god they worship or religion they follow for that matter. Certainly couldn't give a flying F as to whether a community 'integrates' or not. We're The Borg after all. But I do give a stuff that every community follows and respects the laws of the country and, should they want the laws changed, use the democratic mechanisms at hand to effect that change.

The only piece of headgear that should steadfastly and incontrovertibly banned - for any reason other than documented medical - is the male toupee. It's an abomination and standing rebuke to all conceivable civilized norms.

85 years ago there was a country forcing people to wear identifying signs of their religion - even if they did not wish to do so. How terrible we thought. Now we're discussing passing laws that will force people to remove identifying signs of their religion. It might be thought that in the first case, there was no desire that this particular religious community integrate whereas in the second there is demand that the religious community or communities integrate completely. Not really though is it? What a mess.

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Some very powerful points made here:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/03/13/unspeakable-realities-block-universal-health-coverage-in-the-us/

 

 

 

 

Yep, and very much spot on too.

2 hours ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

You are blind. You gave given up the right to chose your own doctor and treatment. Silly. Would you give up right to chose your lawyer or investment advisor?

 

maybe you would. Weak

Yeah, I gave up my right to chose my own private jet too.

There is no possibility of choosing between doctors, surgeons, lawyers or investment advisors if you cannot afford any of them in the first place. And that's really the point isn't it? Don't worry though, even if there were a universal tax surcharge to fund a universal health care insurance system, you could always use your lawyer and investment advisor to find a way not to pay it.

On 15/03/2017 at 3:22 PM, Credo said:

There are no perfect health care systems.   Health care is a process, new diseases emerge, and some are a major risk to everyone.    Demographics change and so they will always be in need of tweeking and changing.   Throwing out the ACA is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.   

Precisely. Not only that, Health Care must and always will be rationed. Everyone cannot have everything. The key decision and social compact that a country must come to is how health care is rationed. The Republican (Ryan) proposal is that it be rationed by wealth. That is, those without wealth don't get it and those with wealth get it all - they get the best health care on the planet. When those without wealth don't get health care we can call it freedom and "Choice".

The great fear of Universal Health systems comes from the notion that the wealthy will have the same access to health care as the poor. There is nowhere that this is the case, but even suggesting that we move closer to such a system upsets those who like to think that the possession of wealth is a sure indicator of moral virtue.

16 minutes ago, silent said:

Where have all the Trump supporters on here gone? 

Finding that beating and baiting liberals isn't as much fun as they thought it would be given that what they beat and baited with is a huge leaky bag of yellowed liposuction fat? There's a bit of splash back. Oh well...hopefully the fun of deporting Mexicans will dull the pain of medical insolvency.

Congressional Budget Office? More so called "facts". This office has got to go. Employees should be prohibited from producing and issuing reports prior to the whole operation being de-funded at the next round of deficit cutting measures. This mob is just as bad as NASA the EPA and other fact-obsessed pin heads. Why can't facts just understand that they lost the election?

Pigs squeal louder the closer they get to the abattoir.

The President (Mr. Trump) was briefed on the FISA warrants months ago. The fuss now? Dots joining up. National Security Advisor gone in disgrace for lying. Attorney General gone for lying under oath. Pigs squeal louder the closer they get to the abattoir - especially if they thought they were simply at the trough.