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The thing is that NONE of those shops are tailors themselves .

They all let Thai tailors make it all for them , so they have the same tailors .....

Then the second thing is that almost every tailor only can make the same OLD fashioned designs ,

those stiffy one which make you have the feeling having a sea-elephant under your shoulders ......

And they can't make new designs , they always will tell you no problem , but eventualy they all look the same .

I know it my wife is a really good designer , she also rents out clothes for parties and marriage ,

some of the tailors are okay , but we want something genuine for the customer , none of them can do it .

Change is hard to impossible for them . My wife designs everything she has got in her shop , she is to busy to

make suits herself , but we will do those as well in the future , she only wants quality , and sorry to say

but the tailors are just not good enough , especialy when you know what you talk about .

Anyway the Indians overcharge you for the same product , a lot , so a possibility is to look for material yourself at the market ,

find a Thai tailor and the quality is the same , or for convenience you could let them take care of everything .

Anyways some do give a good job .

+1.

Almost all "tailor" shops are just fronts for factory workers - at least in BKK.

Trying to find a tailor who actually does the work, offers high quality materials, and good designs and quality stitching is dam_n hard. I have no idea why Bangkok has such a positive reputation for tailor clothes. My experiences have been either negative or average.

because after a vietnamwar. many Europe suit production send bkk "tailor" a material and pattern and hire them to make it and send back to europe , so they do know how to cut and stitch. but hardly find creative one(mass product tailor)

I just came back from Kadluang.

a police around there say he was there until a week ago.

on my way back in a moat . I see some farang up to an appearance , sitting on a bench east side of a moat ,so I go ask him.

but wasn't him (actually ,I got some nasty words follow my back for a guessing a wrong guy)

may be it is up to a time to be able to meet him cause as mr.Tijnebijn said , he seem to wander around town nonstop.

and it's a good information from mr.elcent , I'll go check that out.

and about Thai police system , I'm certain of my word (sure , I'm thai , I know best) won't do F-word-ing thing unless you got some muscle or a bottles full alcohol.

if there's thai officer that really want to help , optimistic , idealist type, they won't have a power to do so , cause straight and nice one never get a rank up.

my third round is no use too.

I ask all of 7 11 around there and all of shop around them. they all said never seen one.

from my friend's description , said that he wear kind of thai style pant สะดอ and a t shirt.

my other friend say he's now around the moat, walking around , sit and sleeping on a bench on the moat. this clue is about one week new.

I will do more search in this evening.

but if any one has a better and more recent witness about him, please let me know

sorry for my bad english , still learning (I'm native)

P.S. my friend also said that he looks psych, well , I still believe that if there's things that make him wander like that all this long time bad things might happened to him , that should enough to make man get some mental illness.

judge people social and financial status by thier ride

you got a "rich" for bmw and benz

a man have to work and earn for whole family

a woman have to do all house work and raise a kid (don't have to go to work)

but nowaday it's change

both men and woman have to work but, still , if a man have a good enough income for the whole family ,then they still prefer woman to stay home

it's allright to not married (don't look too good , but it's allright my parent is not married and have three child)

(old believe) merchant and alike is a job for chinese

judge men by rank and commercial status. if you're in a bank job, a provincial manager. you can almost get most girl

women prefer a man with better commercial status.

men prefer women with whiter skin

ambition is look as greedy in Thai (aware of this if you're in a job interview)

if men can't think what he's gonna wear today ,if he's not so fashionable, 90% will be t shirt and a jean

men love football (both play and watch)

there's say "only reason for them(men) to stay home after sun set is a football game is on air"

Nearly 100% of parents need to get their children to graduate at least bachelor's degree. even if it turn out that their child is not working in the same branch they graduated from.

and love to be respected.

in a senior system . newcomer can't argue with senior. older(age) and old(long-stay) member , even less skill ,likely to be listen to than a word from a skillful but young. (they think this is about experience thing)

and if you're new , young and argue with senior , that's not gonna end good

three institution . king . religion(any) and a country is most precious things

especially a king and royal family institute, if you mention bad things , even a slightest ..............

in a normal situation(not now) , most would avoid a politics talk (believe that that's a start of breaking in relation ship)

visiting a hospital patient ,have to bring a casket of fruit and flower , you can also judge people social status by amount and quality of this visiting gift

there's lot more but i'm already sleepy

sorry for my bad english

I would appreciate if any one correct it for me , just for my better engligh

I still wonder about this

around Chiangmailand there's lot of foreigners

and even in Chiang Mai there's lot of foreigners (I'm Thai)

If he lost his belonging , money visa passport all things.

and can't speak Thai

why he don't just find some foreigner and ask for help

and if my information are right

he might wandered a lot around chiang mai

that should make him met many farang on his way wander

and how he survive until now

what he eats

If he can't speak thai then may be he just go to some food shop and begging them

but by Thai tradition . they might think that this farang is pulling some sh-t out of me and won't help

cause most thai thinks that foreigners must rich enough to travel here

and what if I rescued him

he might not have anything

then it would be hard or even impossible to contact TP embassy cause they need at least one identification

and as Thai gov (TP) won't do a F-------- things

as for now I've contact my friend for provide him a shelter

I don't know if that's it

I've just finish my second search . and have no clue

I ask a local around chiangmailand and about they said that there's lot of Farang around here and they can't dintinguish or see any different.

I ask my friend that live around there he said he met one

about two weeks ago

blond

height around 185 - 190

look young

sleeping on a pathway

but he saw him at Kadluang!!

I'm so confuse

tomorrow I'll go to both place but if any one know his appearance that would be good for me and for him

is he still there.

has anyone saw him recently or know his lastest location.

Davidhouston

I think กระดาน is a separate with เผชิญหน้า

กระดาน (in the article is เรียงแถวหน้ากระดาน) is line-up formation that troops come to front and spread wide (I don't know this word) like this

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

it's a shallow but wide formation in order to block a protesters. or barricade a road to maintain/stand ground or even push back.

เผชิญหน้า is mean confront (like a phrase สถานการณ์เสี่ยงต่อการเผชิญหน้า prone to confrontation situation)

but สันดาน is a bit too harsh in thai

and sometime considered to be rude if not use properly.

if you use to comment a person directly. conversation is likely to going to turn into a fight.

may be การเลี้ยงดู (how the child was cared for , taught how to behave , what to believe . which affect personality)

also การอบรม (how parents taught)

in my oppinion

ขายหน้า : sell face (so embarrasing that if you can sell your face and swap for someone you would do because you don't want other people to know that you really done that)

this use quite a lot when something bad is done like an affair or get caught when trying to walk out un-paid of the resturant.

เสียหน้า litteraly "lose face" if you have a fame , being well-know , prestige . and you're expecting to do some things that you good at but this time things went wrong and result is not good and well like it always do then you เสียหน้า

situation : you're a very good at thai karaoke , always do , and your friends knows that.

so you lot go to karaoke. but from drinking too much last night your throat is dry and your good voice gone hoarse. so you sing like a duck this time. even your friend know or witness all along that your sing is so good . but still you เีสียหน้า because you cannot do what you always best at or be able to do it but less than it should be.

หน้าแตก you've done something you're not suppose to do but by slip of your tongue , with out conscious , or even reallise that you have done. but later someone tell you that you did it , or you might find out on your own.

this หน้าแตก is use when you done something shame in a very eyes of public

situation : you're go on speech for 500 men as senior / expert on your field , people applause , as you walk up the stage and then you just trip a stair and fell off the stage . that's หน้าแตก and in this kind of situation , ขายหน้า and เสียหน้า cannot convey a right meanning like หน้าแตก .

another example will be. Try to say "ระรอง ระยอง ยะลา" rahnong rah-yong yah-la fast. and if you're expect to say this with fast speed , accurate pronounce and in very thai accent but it is turn out your tougue get tied , if you do this is front of people ,and the word that come out is like mumbling . now you're หน้าแตก

can also use when

อึดอัดใจ : uncomfortable to do / make decision (but that thing is not done yet , you still can choose to do or not do it ,though เสียหน้า ขายหน้า หน้าแตก is talking about action that done or if you done , will embarrasses you)

1.ถ้าคุณทำอย่างนี้ ผมอายแทนคุณ แล้วคุณก็จะเสียหน้าด้วย this is polite but somehow look too formal or intention-made (mean If you do it you will lose your face and I'm gonna get that shame with you(I'm gonna lose my face too))

หากคุณทำอย่างนี้ ทั้งผม ทั้งคุณจะต้องเสียหน้า / พวกเราทั้งคู่ ต้องเสียหน้า as in thai , you judge by intention of a speaker to get a group of subject together , you want to say you're on the same side with him . concerning of him losing his face

then we use "we" or พวกเรา as you're by his side.

2.คุณบอกไม่ได้หรอก ว่าคนนั้นเขาโกหก ถ้าหากไม่มีหลักฐานที่แน่นหน้าพอ (you can't tell that person is lying or not since you have no good evidence)

คุณหาว่าเขาโกหกไม่ได้หรอก ถ้าหากคุณไม่มีหลักฐาน เหตุผล ที่ดีพอ (you can't just charge , blame , insult one if you have no prove) , หาว่า is from กล่าวหา ว่า (to allege,to charge,to blame)

sorry my friend say that's really looks like a ads

so she managing me to change that but I can't find an "Edit" so I'm gonna just put it right here

if you've found yourself need a good use in Thai language but still not get good enough.

you may somehow can get them to a point, convey your thought. but still not fluent and sound too formal and stick to a form of producing sentence like you're a walking talking dictionary.

whether field of purpose you found you your self in learning Thai, these are general profit for "good thai"

you'll get thai price in buying things not a Farang price anymore (and it's like a +30% )

if you're good enough you'll be able to bargain (this is truly art, it's show how good you're with a language)

you'll know what are Thai people talking behind your back

think of yourself sitting in a food shop and have ear a waiters talk, they don't even whisper or gossip it , cause they think you don't understand

if you can speak Thai , even you're generally know as jobless and disqualify person in your homeland , here in thai , you'll somehow manage to find a good job in a good rank (believe me if you're farang)

here for thai girl ? , knowing things will help you a lot

if you're on business , you'll find that Farang-pood-thai (Thai speaking foreigner) always get extras

and lots of it (as I found in 101 reason learning thai)

and most of all you'll find joy in using Thai fluently or even eloquently. to under stand Thai song

(I'll convince you that Thai song has very good meaning and describe it in a very fabulous way of word) to understand Thai joke (do you know เดี่ยว ไมโครโฟน diew microphone , Udom Taephanit)

and most of all to talk like a native. not half Farang accent

part of that, if you're into Thai enough . not satisfied by some be able to chat and really want to learn Thai , being Thai . because ........ (your reason here) ............

I'm your answer

if you want to learn language . sometime you stuck . dictionary can't help you

you can't ask no one since you not know one.

you're friend is also farang. so they can't help

then "what the .... does that mean"

why don't we just meet each other on the halfway

there's thai students some scholarshiped, some gifted ,some not but want to improve their English and we just all know that the best way to learn is to do.

so that's there we find something in between. an exchange of cultural , I call it that.

to do that . just an email or msn or facebook on multilingual can do.

but there's some Thai craziness , Thai addicted Farang that I've met and just not satisfied by that multilingual-friend-taking-practice and just want to really learn a beauty of Thai.

there's Thai a holic Farang sitting next to me ask me how to eat khanomjean like a Thai folks do.

if you're that kind . me and my friends would be a good exit to you.

to say it. we work like a tour guide or things like that . we're local . so we know far lot than they do and deeper than they do. not just go to Wat and taking a picture. riding a bicycle around town. eat fake thai food. go to Farang bar. go see some ruin site and listen to repeated like a robot historic fact script and thinks that's a Thai. nope that's a foreigner one side view.

and we're just student do it for fun , so nothing commercial .

we've been doing it few times but this is the first time on the internet to post a topic like this.

(take farang on the ride and go places , get foods , doing Thais' things)

just to kill the time for a long summer

if you're interested , just mail

and we only do this in Chiang Mai . I don't know if there's another group doing like us in other place

hope you find a good day in Thailand

ควน is a name of a place (a village)

ควน มะพร้าว mean a hill , a slope of coconut

Hello

first I must apologize for my english here because I'm thai

I'm quite surprise by this topic here

101 reason learn thai

well but not that surprise. because that you can find that perspective for foreigner anywhere

in to topic

I've found that lot of foreigner or Farang get a sell point of a "land of smile" or "dirt cheap stuff"

"really good weird souvenir" "nice prostitute" "a place you can live free and get a VIP state just if you hold a VISA" or other reason

I still believe that there's one who want to know and understand Thailand deeper in

not just by farang-edible Thai food . be-able-to-pull-and-steering-taxi Thai words. place where farang go . place where farang live .

that's just one side view. one may find that that's enough for them to be able to live in Thai peacefully

but if you want more than that to know and learn Thai you may want to talk with us.

I and some of my friend doing this for some time. if you live in Chiang Mai We may have met on somewhere pulling you out of "nowhere on the map" (if you met the tall boy that go straight to you , talk , and gone for nothing . well that's must be me or my friend)

I'm local in Chiang Mai so I know a lot of place . food .sure do know a lot of historic and cultural things just more than enough to boast and fill to your foreigner brain full.

my english is . as you can see , I've found no good in grammar but I can talk at least to all the not so advance-using word and understand each other

this is not commercial . ads of some Thai learning school or something like that

all I've done and doing is for my sake of fun and leisure time (I quite like when you farang are struggle and get tongue-tied while try to say or describe a word)

but I am too , interest in other country culture and I think it would be best if you just go and talk and exchange them through local and real things not just money-paid not natural look thai schools

if you love to know Thai or want to have experience exchange culture then you may find me as a useful

then again I must apologize for very bad english especially grammar and sentense cutting that are extremely annoying.

this is my first time to post this program on to internet forum . I don't know how much I will get here

I'm doing this on thaivisa here because I'm here between summer and still waiting for university admission result so I'm got nothing to do so here I am lure some farang on the internet to have some free tea

so

if you interest in this program just msn me here [email protected] almost 24 hr available

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