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I would have thought that the overthrow of an elected government, abolishment of the constitution, and a military handcrafted government would constitute an abuse of power. Under the 2007 Constitution the NLA is an illegal body with no authority to conduct any government oversight or legislative actions. So it becomes a double standard for the NLA to take any action against former government officials for alleged crimes for which itself has committed.

For all the contrived excuses one may allow the Junta and its clones government organizations to apply such double standards, the ultimate result will be a government without public legitimacy to pass judgement. The military government will be viewed as engaged in political suppression. This will not contribute towards any national reconciliation if such was ever the intent of the Junta. Frankly, as long as the Junta power is preserved with any subsequent change in government leadership, "reconciliation" is just a two baht word.

You might have missed it, but the 2007 constitution is no longer in use.

Being held illegally, deprivation, torture and beatings for confessions, all part of the legal system here in Thailand

Absolute denials by authorities that this ever occurs....all part of the system as well.......!

He wasn't held illegally.

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EnglishJohn,

"Considering the low life tactics of the Pheu-Thai and their supporters" Really? So just who are the "low-life supporters" are you talking about? or do you mean the few extremist's? that are out there much like the yellow few extremist's also out there? cause I personally know many rather kind and polite and well educated red shirt supporters as well as yellow supporters,

"Considering the low life tactics of the Pheu-Thai and their supporters" ------> "low-life supporters"

And this, people, is an example of taking things out of context.

Yes, context is important I agree, how ever I think my statement is very much in context, read the guy's text,

"Considering the low-life tactics of the Phu-Thai and their supporters" Now if he meant to say something else like the extremists, or bomb throwing murderers, or what ever, then that is what he should have said, but he didn't now did he.

And this people, is an example of blind support regardless of facts, text, and context .

If the lady is guilty of terrorism then let the law be seen to be handed down.

It has nothing to do with who I do or do not support. You should read the text. He didn't say "low-life supporters". He said "low-life tactics". Taking words from different parts of the text to give a different meaning is taking it out of context.

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EnglishJohn,

"Considering the low life tactics of the Pheu-Thai and their supporters" Really? So just who are the "low-life supporters" are you talking about? or do you mean the few extremist's? that are out there much like the yellow few extremist's also out there? cause I personally know many rather kind and polite and well educated red shirt supporters as well as yellow supporters,

"Considering the low life tactics of the Pheu-Thai and their supporters" ------> "low-life supporters"

And this, people, is an example of taking things out of context.

"We didn't arrest her. If we arrested her, she would be in jail.

Nattathida is currently being held in prison while she awaits trail for terrorism charges.

Ummm to me General it sounds like you arrested her.

Actually, she is in prison after being handed over to the police.

Before that she was just staying with the military voluntarily. .......

Must be me; I thought it was ranked just weeks ago, somewhere well into double-digits.

But a look on the Skytrax site begs the question: just who and what are they looking at? Because any number of passenger comments for this year to date suggest Suvarnabhumi is deserving of nothing like 5th position.

5th in the 40-50 mil passenger group. 47th overall.

I have no doubt of the quantity of people passing through it but facility wise it is sub-standard

My point was 'johndudorn' just listed the Skytrax list. It wasn't his opinion.

I am looking for articles, more specific...fortunately I have a job, so it may take some time.

But let me ask you: not "a cap", not a "baseball cap"...a "red cap" and that has no implication, whatsoever...right?!

You specifically said "ID cards, red-shirts and all". There were no red shirts. No ID cards. No UDD or "red shirt" paraphernalia. Just a red coloured cap.

If they have the evidence, the police should arrested her. But no, the military abducted her, denied they had her until exposed by the media and quickly made up a charge to save a lot of military red faces. Yes, agreed many here are so gullible.

Why do people who seem to have been in Thailand for quite a while always assume that it's the police that do all the policing?

THEY WISH..........!!

if you check SKYTREK website you'll find THIS:

www.worldairportawards.com

VERY different !!!!

What's different? They might have selectively choosen what to highlight but it is correct!

Best Airports : 40-50 million passengers 1 Seoul Incheon ICN 2 Kuala Lumpur KUL 3 Madrid MAD 4 San Francisco SFO 5 Bangkok Suvarnabhumi BKK 6 Charlotte/Douglas CLT 7 Las Vegas LAS 8 Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX 9 Miami International MIA

You cant be serious about KL surely? It is a rubbish airport at best

It's the list from the Skytrax survey. KL was second in the 40-50 million passenger airports.

I was thinking all the time, where I have seen a similar scenario before.

Suthep- marching through Bangkok, on a route, unknown to anyone before and a "grenade" was thrown at him (well...kind of...more like 100 meters behind him) and ...voila...there is a red shirt- weapons depot, ID cards, red-shirts and all...

Why am I not convinced?

Because this never happened ".there is a red shirt- weapons depot, ID cards, red-shirts and all..." and the grenade was real.

Looks like you are purposefully trying to not be convinced.

Yep...it didn't happen!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/thai-anti-government-protesters-wounded-explosion-bangkok

One of the first articles that pop up, when you google "suthep bangkok march grenade", there is another by BP.

They all said, that there was a stockpile of weapons, linked to reds at first and later totally dis- proven.

The fact, that they backpaddled later, doesn't mean "it didn't happen"!

I can not be arsed to look for it, but I recall the red- shirt memorabilia and the ID card quiet well.

And I am not that old.

All articles relating to that stockpile of weapons only mentions a "red cap" (not a UDD cap, just red in colour). Nothing else "red" is mentioned.

You may not be old, but maybe it's an early onset thing.

So, this went from "No, we don't have her " to "Yes, we have her because she is a terrorist, but we let her go anyways!" in just 3 days?!

I am not convinced!

Did they let her go?

It went from her being arrested a week ago, to the media getting involved 3 days ago, to someone in the army denying she was in their custody 2 days ago, to her being charged with terrorism yesterday. I don't believe she has been released.

Who did they bribe?????

If they bribed someone, they didn't pay enough.

THEY WISH..........!!

if you check SKYTREK website you'll find THIS:

www.worldairportawards.com

VERY different !!!!

Which shows BKK as 5th in the 40-50 million passenger group.

What's different?

Just read the latest Skytrax report/list and Suvarnabhumi Airport does not even get a sniff into the list of the top 30 so where does the number 5th come from? Also, as a handicapped person, the airport is far from being the friendliest for people in wheelchairs. Tried a few times to get the wheelchair into a toilet and there is a small step, only an inch or so high but that prevents me from entering by myself because the door is not easily opened as it must be pushed open. Then it immediately slams shut while trying to negotiate the step. The joints between the floor sections are not good either. They cause the wheelchair to bump and jump along creating spinal and leg pain - had back operations, two hip replacements, and right knee replacement and no feeling in feet. Long distances from check-in to gate another problem as is trying to get into and out of the airport through departures. Whoever thought of putting in that horrendous barrier should be shot. Must admit though, at least the taxi is closer to the door than they can get in China where the taxi can not get within about 100 feet of the door as they are not allowed to drive that close. At least most airports worldwide allow that because of the luggage being large and some do not even provide free trolleys. (Toronto is an example where you pay CAD2:00 and then get nothing back when finished.)

5th (out of 9 or 10) in the 40-50 mil passenger group. 47th (or 49th?) overall.

Suwannaphum may be better than many N American and European airports - most of which are showing their age and lack of capacity in a changed environment - but in my opinion Thailand's main airport comes nowhere near the best in Asia.

A random list of six criticisms:

- Overpriced F&B

- Monopoly duty free supplier

- Vast distances to walk to gates

- Immigration bottlenecks much of the time

- STILL no conveniently-accessed Internet (registration required - why?)

- In general, trading on an outdated and obsolete image of Thailand, unsuitable to 2015.

Pass, at best

F&B in most airports, especially airside, is overpriced.

One of the best airports in the world, Changi, requires passport registration for wi-fi access.

It's a big airport. How do you propose that they bring all the gates closer to the main terminal?

Best Airports : 40-50 million passengers

1 Seoul Incheon ICN

2 Kuala Lumpur KUL

3 Madrid MAD

4 San Francisco SFO

5 Bangkok Suvarnabhumi BKK

6 Charlotte/Douglas CLT

7 Las Vegas LAS

8 Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX

9 Miami International MIA

On last year's stats, there were 10 airports in the 40-50 million passenger range.

Yes, but who can believe those damn foreigners. Just because there are lots of video of Thai soldiers shooting protesters, and thousands of rounds were expended, and their are no pictures of red shirts with guns, alive or dead, doesn't mean the red shirts didn't concoct this whole story. Surely at the behest of Thaksin they were ordered to run into bullets to gain sympathy for the cause? And of course the Red Shirts, with Thaksin's backing, can operate anywhere in the country, and impersonate soldiers with impunity. We should all be very afraid...

Yet there are plenty of pictures of redshirts who are armed and they did kill people. Knowingly posting lies breaks the forum rules.

As you know very well there is not a single picture nor a single video clip of a dead, armed protester. They were all 100% unarmed. Don't say that maybe their weapons were removed by other protesters because there is plenty of real-time video of these people being killed. And not one of them was armed.

Have you seen photos of every dead protester? No. Were there even photos of every dead protester? No. There were photos of maybe 10 of the 80 protesters killed.