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In 1999 I was working on a large power project here in Thailand, which had an almost 100% Thai workforce and the quality and speed of work was excellent.

Our company had a similar one going on in the UK, with a British workfoce, which was running into all sorts of delays and cost over runs, so I was asked to go and see if I could help out.

When I got there I was amazed at the slow pace, poor quality workmanship and just the general "I don't give a shit" attitude of the workforce.

The work hours were something like 07:00 to 16:00 with a one hour lunch break, but it soon became clear to me that we were lucky to get three hours of average to poor quality work.

I rotated between the two projects for ten months and the difference was like day and night.

Sorry, but I think one is skewing things here or doesn't really know the score, but either way, that scenario is not the norm. An empire and one of the world's top economies didn't come about from the culmination of shoddy workmanship. The British work the longest hours in Europe for starters and, also being British, I worked there for a number of years where the work ethic was always to 'dog-on'. If you're talking of council workers on the clock, then that is entirely different and not indicative of the average British trades-person.

This Thai project more than likely had a selected workforce on it - ie, the cream of the crop - as opposed to your everyday tradesmen, who are, lets face it, very much off and on. I have supervised Thai sparkies offshore, and to be fair, they were pretty good compared with your Thai tradesmen on the street, but were no dynamos and made lots of mistakes. Also worked over Thai sparkies and labourers in Brunei and although keen, they were pretty rough. They may have an aptitude for it, but on the whole need constant supervision and like to cut corners.

talk about blinded by national pride.

What Empire are you talking about? The one that if it cannot actually be called fallen has been in steady decline for as long as i can remember?

The Country that brought us British Leyland and a car industry renowned the world over for unreliability and shoddy workmanship with out even the style provided by the Italians?

Council Estates, the dole?

Being one of the "worlds top economies" by size does not mean it rates in the top 10 for health.

Hail Brittania!

Tv stars are prostitutes as much as bargirls.. they just dont sit in a bar and wait for 1000baht.

Big % of them bone their way up to a tv job

Big % of them bone their way to keeping said job

It's thailand and there's no talent on TV, the only way to get a job there is to look good and open your legs or very seldomly, be lucky.

Bone? Are you 12? And do you have first hand knowledge of the tv industry or are you taking through your ass?

I love the way people talk about pats as if it is really the beach.

A few years back I did a motorcycle trip through ranong and we hit this national park beach that was essentially a huge tidal flat for almost a kilometer in either direction at low tide.

It was 2 days after songkran an the shoreline was absolutely heaping with party detritus - bags, styrofoam, bottles of beer and whiskey, and most disgustingly - the stinking Remains off seafood feasts.

This is so easy! Just fly a large ISRAELI flag on the house. Evict the drunks, and make it an Israeli guesthouse. Little known fact, the rate of alcoholism among Jews is very low. Problem solved. See ya!

BUT, the bar sales will plummet.

At the end of the day cash over the counter will always win regardless.

The main thrust of the OP's post was that "Now every night they sit in the front lobby making loud foul-mouth arguments," Turning it into an Israeli guest house might succeed in cutting out the drunkenness whilst raising the volume and be equally off putting to other would be guests. Actually anyone who wants a bit of peace and quiet want to join me in opening up an Israeli guest house in Malaysia ?

Hope that won't mean a todger inspection.

Do you really? While I understand your attempt at humor, I just can't seem to understand whyever it came to mind.

the short answer, my chunky friend, is that some do.

I met a very intelligent 18yo bar girl several years back who brought this subject up, and she mocked thos e who believe folk like her and her family should live like this, whilst these hypocritical philosophers live off the fat of the land.

That is some pretty treacherous ground you tread given the theory's key proponent.

Many have asked the same question though.

I am here for sex with young woman.

You are not alone. That is why 95% of the men who live here came in the first place and another 4% are gay.

speak for yourself old feller, your statistics are spurious at best, and an attempt to justify your own proclivities by attempting to align yourself with an imagined majority.

20 thb/$... 3 sunrise tacos would cost $11.

and the order would still be wrong when delivered.

This may not be as strange as somethings posted here but once on a bus to Pattaya I saw two Spanish men trying to talk to two Thai bar girls. The girls spoke no Spanish, and the Spanish men had very little English. On the bus next to them was a German couple. It developed that the German man spoke reasonable Spanish, and his wife spoke reasonable English. So the conversation went like this. One of the Spanish men asked a question in Spanish to the German man. He translated that to his wife in German, and then she would ask the question in English to the Thai bargirl who spoke English, That Thai bargirl would then tell her Thai friend in Thai what the Spaniard had said. If she wanted to ask one of the Spanish men a question the flow went the other way. One Thai girl asking her friend a question in Thai, who then repeated it in English to the German woman, who then said it to her husband in German, who then translated it into Spanish for one of the Spaniards to answer. It was quite confusing trying to follow what was being said...as my Spanish is poor and my German worse,and my Thai nil.... so I had to make the conversation out mostly from the English, but at least I understood the basic idea of their conversation.

And then there's the true story of my first day in Thaikand in 1977. I agrived in Bangkok after a almost 10 hour delay on Air France plane that broke down in Bombay. After I got through customs I found a hotel on Silom Road from the Hotel reservations desk in Don Muang. As I went to get a taxi, there were two aussies who hapened to be going to the same hotel. So we decided to share a taxi. When we got to the hotel and checked in these aussies said,"Mate let's have a couple of cold ones at the hotel bar", So we did. About 4 hours later it was past midnight, and I had been awake for more tha 24 hours (starting from Athens, Greece) and I said it was time for bed. While we were drinking my two aussie friends had attracted the attention of two Thai "professional" girls who were hanging around the hotel bar. I was too tired and jst wanted sleep so i begged off and headed for my room. About 2 in the morning someone was banging on my door. I assumed it was one of the aussie types...so I just yelled, "Go away, I'm sleeping, don't blankety-blank bother me". Whoever it was went away, and I went back to sleep. The next morning I was trying to shake off a hangover, and drinking a pot of coffee to sober up when a Thai girl came over to my table; called me an aussie m------ker, and threw a cup of coffee into my face. I vaguely recognised her as one of the pros my aussie friends had been chatting up the night before. After a bit of conversation she remebered that I wasn't one of the aussies, I was the american guy that was drinking with them. Apparently, one of the aussies had taken her friend to his room, but apparently he didn't like the price she was asking. So he tossed her out. This girls friend was the one that had been banging on my door at 2 in the morning. Since I didn't let her in, she tried to go home. There was a 1 o'clock curfew then and her friend got caught out after curfew. The girl that threw the coffee in my face had just come back from bailing her friend out of jail for beaking curfew, paying the fine...and that's why she was p-ssed at me...she thought I was the aussie who threw her friend out of his room.

And that was my first 24 hours or so in Bangkok.

and you have the burn scars to this day...,

I can't speak to the sugar water sodas, because I don't really drink them or look about them...

But for other things, the Villa Soi 11 runs hot and cold... Every now and again, they seem to get a big shipment, and are flush with all kinds of goodies... But then over time, those things disappear and they tend to have dry spells, before the rain from heaven falls again...

In general, though, I'd say the Soi 33 area one probably tends to be better and more broadly stocked...

this is true, especially for claussen pickles.

As for this underground store, 10+ years on soi 11 and never heard or it, either the book or food store. details please.

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Judging by the level of English, you must be a Thai??

which one? they all seem tragically illiterate to me.

good lord man. why not go see a lawyer or talk to your consulate or both rather than relying on hearsay.

statistically speaking, unlikely that it's suicide.

statistically speaking, how would you know from behind that monitor?

what worries me is all sign point out girl is bad.

and op thinks it was just misunderstanding.good god lord jeesus!

why dont funkie farangs REALIZE that in too many cases all girl is intersted is in resditribution of his wealth.

NOT ALL JUST WAY TOO MANY!

what signs point out she is bad? all i see in the OP is a barely comprehensible semi-literate 3rd party anecdote.

do you have some information i am not privy to?

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been on the chang night before?

the bra doesn't look that big.

even if you made this up, the picture is to be commended.

had i been there i would have happily pointed it out.

very happily.

TBH, I am not sure why the need for nasty sarcasm here. Guy gets a phone call from a hospital, doesn't get any info from it and obviously wonders whats up. I would certainly be calling all of my friends and family to make sure it wasn't someone sick or injured in the hospital and would prefer to know that hospitals perform telesales if it had happened to me. Why they would be performing telesales, I have no idea.

Perhaps, its one of those unanswerable questions, like why do so many people on Thaivisa have nothing better to do than stir?

Posts have been deleted. lets act like adults here, please.

one would hope if he is indeed concerned he would turn to friends or family rather than an an internet forum.

Feel free to contact 'government house'...wherever that may be.

I'm sure that the government house in question may be able to point you in the correct direction.

In the meantime, do you have anybody to speak to during the waking hours?

gee, you missed the perfect chance to use your little "closed" smiley. having trouble finding your imaginary moderator's cap?

My wife never had a bf before me so she does not have a frame of reference when it comes to "male Thai equivalents".

She never, blimey, that sounds similar to the usual ' my lady never was a bar girl ' or ' my lady is hi-so ' from some. Think you have a first there.

Any body else's lady never had a bloke companion before.

I assumed that Chunks 'wife' was his right hand, in which case his claim may be true!

+1 green thingy

the feature is gone but the stench lingers on. are you keeping your own tally too?

I think the one single thing I know I do that drives my Mrs to distraction is drying my hands on my shirt/pants - I did this in the office yesterday and a Thai collegue visibily cringed - So definitely a Thai sensibility that I trip up over.

my 4 year old prefers to dry her hands on my shirt and it sends her mother up the wall.

nice cut and paste job there.

sounds like a covert invasion of laos to me.

And just what reason would I give to the BIB for being strip searched? I never wear undies and haven't been bothered in 15 years. But then I don't usually let my bits and pieces hang out either.

good lord you make my skin crawl.

now i want to change my username to tinfoilhat.

You know that childrens brains are way more sensitive for harmful phone radiation then adults ?

Get them two empty liter cans and a roll of wire instead, and teach then how to make a great phone out of this, much more fun then such stupid electronics that just makes them stupid and greedy.

Yes master, I'll will make him a tinfoilhat.

you beat me to it. tinfoilhat -- one word, classic.

my daughter wears one everywhere.