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Time for an events calendar on Thaivisa?

There's a pinned topic but the last event advertised is halloween at Horseshoe Point.

I was thinking more of an ongoing actual calender with different events pinned up by ThaiVisa members. More for events like this than promotions of 'happy hour' at a bar etc.

As the other poster mentioned, you (well, me) seem to read about it after the fact rather than knowing about it before hand.

Time for an events calendar on Thaivisa?

..... Why did the Brits colonize Hong Kong anyway, if they didn't want to import good Chinese food?

From what I can tell, British-style Chinese food is their version of PF Chang.

The Brits colonized HK for the lucrative opium trade and not the cuisine. Sorry if you were being rhetorical

I had a dreadful salad in there about 6/7 years ago. Complained and they did not charge me. Were friendly enough. I seem to remember he is Italian - kinda weird having a Spanish restaurant if your Italian.

If you're applyingvia Bangkok, my experience is they want a bankers draft from a bank in Bangkok. I learnt to my cost!

Is Pattaya a good place to buy a house?

The answer has got to be a resounding yes. Having seen the amount of growth here in the last two years, despite western world recession, it seems that Pattaya has far from had its day but just continues to be going generally in the right direction.

And despite exchange rate changes it still offers fantastic value.

What's the meaning of these general statements? All depends on the quality and the price you will pay. So Pattaya is going into the right direction? Can you define the right direction? Are you intending to express, that in future public roadworks will be shortened from never finish to half finished afer 5 yrs?

Where was a growth in Pattaya during the last two years? The fact that big intl hotels are coming does not mean that more tourists will come automatically. And even the big hotel chains need some locations for write offs for tax reasons.

Fantastic value...maybe if you compare with metropoles in Europe but other than that? Quality, craftmanship...do you believe that any building will surpass a lifetime of 25 to 30 years?

If you are sure that your income / pension is stable and matching the inflation and baht strengthening, if you are sure that you can have a nice family life here, having a trustful Thai wife, then it might be right to buy at the right price to stay in your premises.

If you are interested in quick gains, you better gamble in Cambodia or Macau. From what I can see now very real is a departure of many expats, who stayed here long time. And I don't see many new ones arriving. Getting a job is harder than ever, because Thai companies prefer to pay meaningless high salaries to their people, international companies just limit the foreign specialists.

So after all we will be staying with high quality Russian and Asian tour groups. If this is your expressed definition of growth...you might be right, but in this year even those groups are on the decline being replace by even higher classed visitors from Iran and other quality countries.

Well, I can't stand it anymore.

G'night

Some interesting points made and I would prehaps share some of the sentiment, but not neccesarily all of the points.

I was considering that Pattaya is growing as a whole in general size and actual facilities despite a western world recession. That in itself may not be to everyones taste. And from what you posted I guess, not yours. Maybe it should be a seperate topic in itself.

Sure, Pattaya does have huge problems - and not just the roads etc., or lack of ability to build them but also a tenacity to build things just for the hel_l of it which are ill thought out, poorely constructed and even not needed. But that is definately not something new. Those ill-fated green planters on the pavements were just one previous example.

I dont believe for one second that international hotels opening here is to write off tax.

For some, the grass might well be greener elsewhere - something I first heard when I arrived here to live 8 years ago, but it does seem to me that there are still people coming here (to live) from all over the world, be they of any or all nationalities.

Of the value issue, I recently saw a list produced by the BBC of the 5 best value beach destinations in the world. I cannot remember all of them, but South Africa was top and Thailand was third (I think). Those people complaining that their pension does not go as far are right, except it may well go a lot less far back in their home country. GBP 145 for a TV license anyone? And sure, not everyone comes to Thaiand for a beach holiday, but getting back on topic, it is part of the overall package/ambience and reason on why they choose to buy a house and live here.

Finally, less than 25 years for the life expectancy of a building here?? If they are properly maintained and lived in. Yes, that and much more. But that condition is true of buildings anywhere.

Is the question Why buy a house OR Why buy a house in Pattaya?

Why buy a house?

The simple truth of all property ownership is you make the profit when you buy, not when you sell. That is why some houses (or condos) do not re-sell well. It is also the reason why some are still making some money even in this downturn and why Pattaya is continuing to grow in the last two years despite western world recession.

In the Pattaya area, a lack of marketing finesse is another reason for the lack of re-sales. Putting a sign outside yr house or a photo up in Friendship for a week is not going to do it.

Hearing some agents calling over Sukhumvit 'the dark side' just amazes me. Especially as many live there. Along with thousands of other people. But if it keeps it being a great place to live, then so be it.

I am a small time developer in

taking small profits and have sold 3 villas in last 12 months. We are currently building the fourth villa at b5,500,000. Not a small sum and yet not so much when compared with property sale prices back home. Wherever that may be.

Our buyers have found a well built villa, in a lovely environment, at exceptional value. And all seem jolly pleased with it - even after the ink has dried! One buyer was renting for the last 5 years at 40,000 pcm. Ask him if that was money well spent! The web site is huyyaivillas.com

Why buy in Pattaya?

Pattaya offers something that is unavailable anywhere else in the world in such a friendly environment and for that reason, guys will keep coming here and wanting to stay here for the very long forseeabe future. To answer the question - Why buy a house in Pattaya? Because you can.

Ooops marketing finesse just took a tumble..your web site is down methinks

Just checked. Not sure what happened earlier. Its working now.

The answer may lie here,

huyyaivillas.com

try copying and pasting into google.

I think you misspelt huyyaivillas.com.

คิดก่อนเขียน for non Thai readers think before posting.

Did you mean to write huayyaivillas.com?

Sorry. You are absolutely correct. My mistake. A typo. It is huayyaivillas.com

However the red shirts/UDD are not a credibe force to generate real discusionor action. None of the red shirt leaders have even given a detailed presentation to their (paid) followers about democracy etc etc. None of their leaders have evenb taken part in a moderated debate, etc etc etc. They are nothing more than ruthless no morals low life who would do anything, use anybody as needed to get a big personal payout. It's well established that their leaders are on a 100million BAht payout (each) if they can reinstall the paymaster.

Sorry to show my ignorance - just how is it 'well established that their leaders are on a 100million BAht payout (each)'?

I think many if not most posts here are missing the point. If not the point then the real question.

Is Pattaya a good place to buy a house?

The answer has got to be a resounding yes. Having seen the amount of growth here in the last two years, despite western world recession, it seems that Pattaya has far from had its day but just continues to be going generally in the right direction.

And despite exchange rate changes it still offers fantastic value.

If those who want to rent carry on renting, then those who want to buy and receive the rent will happy to take it. The moment people stop renting is the time there is going to be a problem.

Is the question Why buy a house OR Why buy a house in Pattaya?

Why buy a house?

The simple truth of all property ownership is you make the profit when you buy, not when you sell. That is why some houses (or condos) do not re-sell well. It is also the reason why some are still making some money even in this downturn and why Pattaya is continuing to grow in the last two years despite western world recession.

In the Pattaya area, a lack of marketing finesse is another reason for the lack of re-sales. Putting a sign outside yr house or a photo up in Friendship for a week is not going to do it.

Hearing some agents calling over Sukhumvit 'the dark side' just amazes me. Especially as many live there. Along with thousands of other people. But if it keeps it being a great place to live, then so be it.

I am a small time developer in Huay Yai taking small profits and have sold 3 villas in last 12 months. We are currently building the fourth villa at b5,500,000. Not a small sum and yet not so much when compared with property sale prices back home. Wherever that may be.

Our buyers have found a well built villa, in a lovely environment, at exceptional value. And all seem jolly pleased with it - even after the ink has dried! One buyer was renting for the last 5 years at 40,000 pcm. Ask him if that was money well spent! The web site is huyyaivillas.com

Why buy in Pattaya?

Pattaya offers something that is unavailable anywhere else in the world in such a friendly environment and for that reason, guys will keep coming here and wanting to stay here for the very long forseeabe future. To answer the question - Why buy a house in Pattaya? Because you can.

Ooops marketing finesse just took a tumble..your web site is down methinks

Just checked. Not sure what happened earlier. Its working now.

Try Magna Carta on Pattaya Tai opp. CAT

Better than most I have dealt with by far

If you buy property in Thailand you should go in with open eyes and expect that you may never recoup anything from your investment.

I guess you could say that about every investment.

And unlike everywhere else in the world? I have seen property drop 40% in England in 3 months. Nothing is certain in life......

I am surprised no one has said the old line about renting being dead money........... Hey ho. Each to their own.

The simple truth of all property ownership is you make the profit when you buy, not when you sell. That is why some houses (or condos) do not re-sell well.

Sorry but you've lost me on that one. Can you please expand on your analogy.

To me, when you buy you are investing and not yet realising your profit. It is only when you sell that you realise your profit (or loss for that matter). i.e. you could buy a 5mill baht for 4 mill and think you have made a good deal. But when you come to sell it, you might not get the 5 mill and only get 4 mill (or less) back.

It is an old property adage - you make the profit when you buy, not when you sell.

I guess it concludes as you have stated - you realise the profit you have made when you sell, but the profit was made when you bought, as you stated. If you bought badly, you will never do as well as you could have.

To expand the analogy. Time and care spent when buying will realise the profit later.

Hope that makes sense.

Is the question Why buy a house OR Why buy a house in Pattaya?

Why buy a house?

The simple truth of all property ownership is you make the profit when you buy, not when you sell. That is why some houses (or condos) do not re-sell well. It is also the reason why some are still making some money even in this downturn and why Pattaya is continuing to grow in the last two years despite western world recession.

In the Pattaya area, a lack of marketing finesse is another reason for the lack of re-sales. Putting a sign outside yr house or a photo up in Friendship for a week is not going to do it.

Hearing some agents calling over Sukhumvit 'the dark side' just amazes me. Especially as many live there. Along with thousands of other people. But if it keeps it being a great place to live, then so be it.

I am a small time developer in Huay Yai taking small profits and have sold 3 villas in last 12 months. We are currently building the fourth villa at b5,500,000. Not a small sum and yet not so much when compared with property sale prices back home. Wherever that may be.

Our buyers have found a well built villa, in a lovely environment, at exceptional value. And all seem jolly pleased with it - even after the ink has dried! One buyer was renting for the last 5 years at 40,000 pcm. Ask him if that was money well spent! The web site is huyyaivillas.com

Why buy in Pattaya?

Pattaya offers something that is unavailable anywhere else in the world in such a friendly environment and for that reason, guys will keep coming here and wanting to stay here for the very long forseeabe future. To answer the question - Why buy a house in Pattaya? Because you can.