Parker1973

Thank you Parker - People like KMBKK seem to make assumptions that aren't there. hence my close in the Debate on the arts with him.

What assumption? That drunks have little fear, hence confidence alone is a poor qualification for a martial art if the same can be found at the bottom of a pint glass?

Pretty much every drunk in the bar "feels safe" and thinks he can kick all the other guys asses. That's kind of the problem, there's no particular lack of self confidence going around once the liquor starts flowing.

You really read this as an insult? Either against you, or Englishmen? I have don't problem with a lively discussion- and defended TMA including aspects of WC articulately from several point of views where the historical record supports them. I don't mind if you are getting bored with it, but you chose to take insult where clearly none was offered and use me, instead of simple lack of interest (or evidence) as an excuse to remove yourself. Poor form.

I totally agree with u that drink causes most fights and makes the aggressor braver than he would be if sober,however, u made the comment in reply to englishinsiam that 'pretty much every drunkin the bar feels safe',i was merely pointing out that he said he felt safe,due to his martial arts training,not on the account of being drunk.....

Saw a farang beggar in Soi Diana Inn today and also one at Nana in Bkk last week.....sad.......

All I know is I feel safe in the bars in Pattaya. I wonder how many others can say that? :-)

Pretty much every drunk in the bar "feels safe" and thinks he can kick all the other guys asses. That's kind of the problem, there's no particular lack of self confidence going around once the liquor starts flowing.

englishinsiam merely said he felt safe in bars in pattaya,he never mentioned being drunk......im also english and feel safe too,and i dont drink.......

This is Thailand,its all about making money.....

Its 500 baht a session (1hour) but i pay 6000 baht for 15 sessions (400 baht each)...expensive, as i only pay £10 for 90 mins in London,but its the only place i know of teaching Krav and i enjoy it....

It doesn't have to be like that. I used to do Aikido with a non-profit group here, 1000 baht/month, could do up to 4 sessions per week if I wanted. Unfortunately it just wasn't the right thing for me.

I agree with u,but u know what its like here......anyway,its kinda expensive,but u can train in muay thai,bjj,krav maga etc all in one gym......worth a try.....

There's a place in Pattaya called Kombat group listing BJJ on their website. It looks a little commercial for my taste however. Does anyone have first hand experience with this place?

I train there,Krav Maga,yes its commercial,but then its a business,not a charity,same as most martial art schools......very good,nice people,prices same as Uk,which makes it expensive,but thats life.....can recommend it......

Where I come from martial arts are usually non-profit groups, people do it as a hobby, not as a business. I didn't see any prices on their website, how much do you pay?

This is Thailand,its all about making money.....

Its 500 baht a session (1hour) but i pay 6000 baht for 15 sessions (400 baht each)...expensive, as i only pay £10 for 90 mins in London,but its the only place i know of teaching Krav and i enjoy it....

There's a place in Pattaya called Kombat group listing BJJ on their website. It looks a little commercial for my taste however. Does anyone have first hand experience with this place?

I train there,Krav Maga,yes its commercial,but then its a business,not a charity,same as most martial art schools......very good,nice people,prices same as Uk,which makes it expensive,but thats life.....can recommend it......

Glad im not the only person who noticed that.......gotta love Thailand.......:-)

I beg to differ,im not saying the throat is the best place to strike,nor at times the easiest place to hit,but,if done correctly the result is devastating,fact....same as a well delivered punch to the jaw/chin,knee in the groin etc....it will inhibit breathing and incapacitate the victim for a period of time,enough to make an exit,which as i said before is the ethos behing krav Maga...its not a martial art where u have rounds and points,its self defense,maximum damage,minimum effort and u walk away.....

which is why the strikes are focused on the throat and groin primarily.....very few 'tough guys' can handle strikes to those areas and keep fighting....

No offense, but what is your evidence that a throat punch is either debilitating or feasible under combat conditions? Neither is prohibited under Muay Thai, Boxing or MMA rules like groin strikes are. Have you ever seen a fighter "fouled" with a throat punch? In Judo and MMA a variety of chokes apply hundreds of pounds of pressure directly to the cartilage at the front of the throat with no harm. So either professional fighters choose not to strike a legal, debilitating, it is nearly impossible for a trained fighter to hit, and that target is also NEVER accidentally hit with noticeable results the way the groin is- or maybe it's not the g-spot of the fight game you were told.

Same applies for "just kick him in the knee". We all loved Roadhouse- fun movie, but if ending a fight was that easy, pro MMA and MT guys would be kicking each other in the knees all day long. If they can't pull it off- it's unlikely the rest of us can.

I'm not dismissing Krav Maga in it's entirety, but without real sparring and a reliance on techniques that cannot be practiced realistically, myths like this prevail in faith-based systems.

A hard strike to the throat is debilitating,of course it is.....im not saying one strike will stop everyone,but its incredibly painful and would stop the average thug 9 times out of 10 im sure.....

Im not talking about chokes here,im saying a hard strike to the throat would stop most people,if not completely,then for those few precious seconds to inflict more damage,or to get away,which is the idea in Krav Maga.....

If you wish to train to defend against street/bar fights,you cannot beat Krav Maga,it takes many of the best parts of other martial arts and uses them to create a devastating self defense mechanism.....strikes to the throat,eyes,groin etc using feet,hands,elbows,knees....the idea being if attacked,burst in and totally devastate the attacker as quickly as possible...it isnt pretty,but i works and the hope is you go home in one piece and your attacker doesnt....also a great cv workout.....try it....

The trouble is Krav Maga is by far the most expensive martial art to learn, very commercial and a rip off in my opinion. And since it is basically Muay Thai with a little Judo/Jujitsu thrown in, why not learn Muay Thai and Judo/Jujitsu for a tenth of the cost. Once you know a little of these, Krav Maga basically looks like a sort of burst of basic attacks from these more fundamental disciplines. In fact, it looks like angry Muay Thai + angry Judo/Jujitsu, i.e., psyche yourself up into a rage, elbow, knee, smash, sweep as much as you can and then run. I've never done Krav Maga, so I could be wrong, but based on what I've seen that is what it is.

I agree Krav Maga in Thailand is expensive,i pay the same here for one hour as i do in London for 90 mins...

I also agree in what you say 'psyche yourself up into a rage, elbow, knee, smash, sweep as much as you can and then run'.....but that is the idea,Krav is self defence,not a martial art....the idea being should u find yourself under attack from one or multiple attackers you basically steam in with a huge amount of aggression and hope that you come out the other side....which is why the strikes are focused on the throat and groin primarily.....very few 'tough guys' can handle strikes to those areas and keep fighting....

If you wish to train to defend against street/bar fights,you cannot beat Krav Maga,it takes many of the best parts of other martial arts and uses them to create a devastating self defense mechanism.....strikes to the throat,eyes,groin etc using feet,hands,elbows,knees....the idea being if attacked,burst in and totally devastate the attacker as quickly as possible...it isnt pretty,but i works and the hope is you go home in one piece and your attacker doesnt....also a great cv workout.....try it....

I train in Krav Maga at Pattaya Kombat,self defense,not a martial art...but alot more relevant for day to day life should a situation arise....

Can thoroughly recommend it....

Hi Beswick,

I did this trip 3 weeks ago,visa run.Air Asia Bkk-Phnom Penh,visa online,$20 or25,cant remember,saves having to queue at the airport on arrival for a visa,tuk tuk into PP about $6-7,tuk tuk for tour of Killing Fields,Tuol Sleng,Royal Palace should be about $15 for the day.Have fun,PP is a great city,im going back next week and to Siem Reap this time too.......

It is not a question of risking running out of fuel mid air. It is about unjustified surplus reserves of fuel. The main problem is that there may be a necessary unscheduled stop on route for refueling which is very expensive for the airline. It is not a question of heightening the risk of running out of fuel mid air with a load of passengers on board. Even from a purely economic point of view this would be an absurd risk to take. That pilots are never reprimanded for over fueling, but certainly would be if they were caught under fueling, if you want to protect your own ass, then always fly over fueled. It would then be justified for any airline to make some subtle point to pilots that they are perhaps wasting resources and money by flying over fueling. I don't think it is a safety issue at all.

"running low on fuel"

dam_n ! how cheap can u be ?

note to self ; continue NOT to fly QA

Please correct me if I am wrong. But surely any etra fuel on board would not be wasted. Also If the Airline is concerned about the amount of fuel carried. They should specify how much fuel a Plane needs to carry to complete it's journey. After so many years experience they should know how much fuel an Aircraft uses on a specific route.

jb1

The more fuel onboard,the heavier the aircraft,the heavier the aircraft,the more fuel it burns,hence why airlines want to upload the minimum amount of fuel necessary for the journey,plus allowing for holding,possible divert etc....

Had one crying in the movie theatre yesterday. And during Preist, not exactly a movie for kids.

I saw Priest yesterday and would of gladly had a crying kid in the theatre,if only to distract me from such an awful film....;-)

Aussietrooper,

Ive had exactly the same problem,u find a shop,look at the photo album outside of tattoos and ask who did the tattoos,the usual reply is 'i did',whoever u may ask.

Ive had several tattoos in Bkk,most have needed re working or re colouring due to poor quality inks being used,however,i did find a great shop,Max tattoos in Khao San Road,think he has 2 shops there, who did an awesome buddha on the inside of my bicep,all shading and its amazing,very expensive for Thailand (12000 baht) but worth every baht....

Good luck and choose carefully....

Thanks Timekeeper,not fussed about his bedside manner,just want my back fixed;-)......

glad to help

i hope you get it sorted

Me too,thanks again.....

Thanks Timekeeper,not fussed about his bedside manner,just want my back fixed;-)......

Hi,

Im looking for a good chiropractor in Pattaya and would be grateful for any info on this...

Thanks...

Thanks for all the tips......after some research went for the Hotel California 2,looks nice and had good reviews.....

Hotels are much less in PP than Bangkok. $40 will get ua great place to saty and If u want riverside try California ll ( about $30)

or for more night time center try the Flamingo for $25/night and free airport pickup.

Why spend an extra $25-50 for a pool?? waste of money.

There are hotels that will not allow a guest to bring a female companion back to your room Billibong is one of them.

NO hotel I have ever seen charges a "joiner" fee.

as for "sex tourists". What is that? Just cause i dont want spend every night alone does that make me a sex tourist?

I hate that term

PP is a great city to just wnader around and enjoy the cool breeze on the riverside during the late afternoon with all the familes strolling

Pay Wat Phnom a visit and say hi to "Sambo" the resident elephant

Thanks for the info,i agree,i hate the 'sex tourist' tag too,im going to PP for some sightseeing,visa run and a change of scene,if i decide i dont wish to spend a night alone that doesnt make me/us 'sex tourists',well said....

Many thanks for the info,appreciate it....

Hi,

Im off to PP next weekend,never been before and would appreciate some info if possible.

Looking to stay in a nice hotel with a pool near the riverfront,as i believe this is the nicest area/close to bars etc?...looked at the Billabong Hotel on i think 158 street....$60 a night max should be ok....

Any info on hotels nd PP in general would be very welcome....

Thanks....

Try EverRich Inn between Soi 5 and 7 on Sukhumvit,1 min walk to Nana BTS,wifi,clean rooms,good location between 1200-1500 per night...I always stay there when im in Bkk

Check them out www.everrichinn.com

Cheers John...

Basically the phrase "don't even think about it" comes to mind.

Sell your car in the UK and save the depreciation, tax and insurance. There are certain small cars here and maybe not so small that you can buy new, keep for a year or so and then sell without loosing too much money.

Make sure that you bring the correct international driving permit with you. You can then apply for a Thai driving licence and don't need to take a practical and theory test.