irishtoffy

There won't be too big a shock because I am prepared to leave the country and start again anyway. 

I have the 1 year extension you get after processing the WP. Im not sure if thats what you mean UbonJoe? The one where you go to immigration with WP so no longer have to leave the country every 90 days, just an Immigration sign in every 90 days. I think that form you sent s the ticket! 

As long as i can cancel the WP, I'm familiar with the process of rushing too imm to pay for a 7 day extension.

I know I will likely have to go to Laos to apply for the tourist visa too. Which sucks. Either that or non-imm visa for eduction i think it is right? My boxing gym said he would write a letter for me to apply for that one. Do any of you know the name of that? The non-imm education visa is it? Or the form I would need to apply for it?

Hi,

I am the owner of a business (49% and joint director) but have now split with my partner/wife. She is now refusing to help process my WP or visa extension and has stolen all the documents which would allow to do so independently.

So, I will be going to the Chonburi DWP to hand in and cancel the WP at the end of the month.

My questions relate to how I can cancel the WP? Can I wait until it expires and it is cancelled automatically? Do I need to provide documents to cancel the WP? Obviously I am not sure if I will be able to get any documents to provide at the moment in time?

i am hoping I can just hand it in, get the letter from DWP stating it has been cancelled and go to immigration for the 7 day extension?

Thanks

I need to go meet with this 'lawyer' tonight!

I should also say, we are opening a tutor school (not a language school). The lawyer suggests applying through a property business initially, with me as translator, however now I will suggest consultant.

We will then apply for the tutor school licence, which we can't do right now as it will take 1-2 months according to her. Does anybody have any knowledge on this process?

So the plan is to go on the property business for 1-2 month until school licence comes through and I can apply for the visa/WP through that. Issues in this plan?

toffy

Is the stated function on the WP ever checked?

As in if I put down manager, would they come and check I am 'managing' and nothing else?

Or is it sufficiently vague enough to argue?

Thanks for the help so far!

toffy

And the lawyer has suggested stating 'translator' as the reason for my visa/WP.

This seems off the mark to me?

And as the 'managing director' of the company - do I still have to justify my WP outside of this?

My situation as currently stands is that I am the 49% shareholder of a registered, legit paid up business which is an ongoing concern and trading.

We have registered the required Thais for social to get the Non-Imm B visa through the company.

But the lawyer helping says that when applying for the WP, I will still have to justify the hiring of a foreigner over a Thai on the application?

Is this correct?

I presumed that the business owner visa/WP did not require that justification? I don't see how people running bars could justify their WP then?

Is 'Management' or something similar valid?

Thanks for any useful inputs!

toffy

Hey,

Does any one have experience of setting up a legal business entity in the Pattaya area?

And if so, do you have a recommendation for a good lawyer/solicitor in the area?

Any advice on pitfalls to be watched for appreciated also!

Cheers

toffy

Hi,

I am about to start the process of setting up a Thai company to provide extra tuition to students.

Where did you find the info on how to go about doing this?

Did you see a lawyer to help or complete the process independently?

Any help or info would be massively appreciated!

toffy

It should be closed.

Do you know if thats required by BKK? Or just optional for IS?

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has any direct knowledge re whether or not International Schools are required to close for Mothers Day holidays?

I have never worked in an IS which didn't close for this holiday. I was under the impression that law says that Mothers Day, Fathers Day, Songkran are not optional holidays whether IS or Thai school.

Does anyone know the regulations regarding this?

Cheers

Thanks some great info!

I have a big bike, so ideally looking for trips in the vicinity of Chonburi. Staying overnight is not a problem if necessary, and if it is a good ride.

More than willing to venture over to Chanthaburi and put in the extra time to get a decent ride and away from the highways and see some nice forest cover and mountains.

I actually live out at Maprachan Lake, I was hoping there might be a decent ride out towards the back of Soi Siam Country Club, after connecting to the highway out the back towards Bira. I will have to have a look on the map to figure out some of these routes.

I did my dues touring Isaan and up north. We started and ended in CM when I lived there. Went down to Phitsanulok, along the Laos border at Udon/Nong Khai. Then down to KK/Ubon/Surin/Buriram/Korat/Kanchanaburi. Was an amazing trip, we stayed off all the main roads on the map. Found some stunning roads out in the fields of Isaan. they looked like very minor roads on the map, but we asked locals if they were ok, and all of them turned out to be batter paved than the A roads. Plus hardly any traffic at all. Only thing to look out for was swooping birds across the road which was quite dangerous because they would take you out if hit on the head. I caught 2 on my leg and both hurt and the bird was left on the tarmac according to my mate following!

What about 'in-country'? Away from the coast and Sukhumvit towards Poi Pet/Aranyaprahet/Chanthaburi/Sa Kaew?

I am so bored with Sukhumvit..it's not a bike riding road..a death trap!

I would suggest just driving south from Pattaya along Sukhumvit and as guzzi850 suggested take the road towards Silverlake. Take a GPS device with you and just drive around, the roads are reasonable and you can go as far as you like without getting lost. Ban Chang has a number of bars for refreshment etc if you should venture that way.

Yes I have been up towards Silver lake before..its the nicest area I found yet around here.

I have been told Chanthaburi province has a terrain much like that of CM/CR. With lots of forest cover/mountains/waterfalls.

I haven't been able to venture over there yet..doesn't seem to be much written about the area on the net anyway.

A nice place to visit is the Silverlake, beautiful hilly area.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293919-d669528-Reviews-Silverlake-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html

It's difficult to avoid Sukhumvit road if going out for a trip from Pattaya, many beautiful places south of here on each side of Sukhumvit road.

We often go there in our truck and then drive in the area and then take small roads leading down to the beaches and see where we ends up.

You can also cross the dreaded Sukhumvit and then explore over on the "dark-side" or east side of Pattaya, the further away from Sukhumvit the less traffic/people.

Today we will drive down towards Sattahip and see if we can get into the Navy base beach or we might have to go further south, we will see where we ends up, he-he.

It's best just driving around and see where you ends up, check trip adviser and other places to go but not so many nice bike roads as up North in the Chang Mai/Rai area, sadly.

Which type of bike are you riding? I read about a Chap here on ThaiVisa that have go Pattaya/Chang Mai and back via Bangkok on a modest Honda Wave, so if you have the skills and nerves you can go anywhere you like.

Good luck and ride carefully.

I have been trying to find some info about areas in the vicinity of Pattaya/Chonburi/Chanthaburi/Sa Kaew areas for a nice motorbike ride.

There's lots of info for up north area, just doesn't seem to be much for down this area that I can find anyway.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Any routes info?

What is the road condition like?

Is it twisty?

Forested cover or rice field country?

Mountains? Flat terrain?

Heavy traffic?

I am hoping for somewhere with a decent condition and not too much traffic.

Or if anyone has any good websites?

I am open to all info posted though, as I have zero experience at all with this area of the country and it's roads.

The length of time of the trip is not an issue. Ideally I'd discover some 1 day rides and other weekend/long weekend length rides.

Starting from the Pattaya area if that is relevant, and also would prefer to spend as little time on that crazy Sukhumvit as possible!

Thanks

Yes I rode the Er bikes before and loved them, which is why I then started to think about losing my single thumper and getting a more modern, revvier bike.

As much as I loved riding the er, I am sure the Honda will be just as good an experience plus its an inline 4, all for only a few baht more than the er. 

Plus Hondas service level of course...definitely swing my decision towards the CB650 for me personally.

How long have they been out in thailand now?

I find it odd the are so popular to have 40 odd bikes already sold at the showroom..yet I dont recall seeing any at all on the road until today. Maybe they have only been delivering them in the past week or 2?

 

Well..I paid a visit to both the Kawa shop and Honda Big Wing today and got some more info from the horses mouth so to speak!
 
Kawa for the er-6n is cash price of 275,000, they require a 30% upfront payment, and 24 months at approx 9000 per month. So a total repayable of around the 300,000 mark. So not really too expensive for interest it seems. 
 
The Honda CB650F has cash price of 285,000, they only require a 20% upfront payment (they said anyway, not the actual finance company..), and 24 repayments of 10,640 So a total repayable of approx. 312,000. Again not extortionate interest rate.
 
Both Kawa and Honda are willing to provide finance to a foreigner in their own name, provided you have a valid longer term visa, a Work Permit, bank statements and Pay slips for at least 6 months.
 
Both also require a Thai guarantor (unfortunately), although like I said they will still provide it in the foreigners name no problem. The Thai also needs to have bank statements/pay slips.
 
They also both require top insurance to be purchased, both about 16,000 as part of the price you have to pay to get the bikes out of the shop. And the registration also costs about 3,000.
 
The other thing is..Kawa have the ER-6N ready to go. The Honda CB650F I was quoted a 3 month waiting time!! There must have been at least 40 brand new (CB650F/CBR650F) bikes outside the shop..and apparently they are all sold/ordered already! So seems like the CB will be a very popular bike.
 
The Kawa shop said it would only take 1-3 days to have the bike ready to go when upfront payments were done.
 
Coincidentally I spotted my first CB650 on the roads today..the guy was absolutely flying around a tight corner and almost came on to the other side of the road in to oncoming traffic. he must have been well over 100, with the knee almost down on a busy road. I can't help but think he had just got it out of the shop today and got a bit carried away!
 
 

650 series worth the 3 months wait!
Better value/performance.

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You think?  I have been reading about them, and the performance seems more akin to a 2 cylinder due to some detuning by Honda to make it more accessible to all riders. As opposed to super high revving inline 4s like the CBR600RR.

I do love the sound of an inline 4 though...

Do you have either at all? Had either? Or driven either or know anyone who has?

I kind of am veering to wards the Honda anyway..because my local kawa dealer is quite famous for their poor maintenance and servicing, rudeness and general all-round being crap at their jobs.

I had a Nina before which I took for a service there (although not bought from there), and the bike came back with a few scrapes looking like it had been dropped.

The horror stories I have heard from others also don't fill me with much confidence to do business with them. Among other things, guys buying new bikes and riding it away only to find lots of screws around the wheels were only finger tightened, the gy was lucky he didn't crash on the way home and took it to a farang bike mechanic he knew to find out why it felt funny riding it. Another is someone asking for new grips on effectively a brand new KLX..to hear electric saw down the back..went to look and they were hacking off the handle bars of his new bike! They came back an inch shorter, and couldn't understand why he was going nuts as they 'had fitted the grips lie he asked'!! And their general all round rudeness whenever I 've asked them for any advice/infohelp leads me to believe they could be well capable of doing things like that. 

The difference in customer service in Honda Big Wing is night and day. So I would hope their mechanics and servicing ability are in a similar vein.

The shops are in pattaya by the way..that Kawa shop is notorious!

Well..I paid a visit to both the Kawa shop and Honda Big Wing today and got some more info from the horses mouth so to speak!

Kawa for the er-6n is cash price of 275,000, they require a 30% upfront payment, and 24 months at approx 9000 per month. So a total repayable of around the 300,000 mark. So not really too expensive for interest it seems. 

The Honda CB650F has cash price of 285,000, they only require a 20% upfront payment (they said anyway, not the actual finance company..), and 24 repayments of 10,640 So a total repayable of approx. 312,000. Again not extortionate interest rate.

Both Kawa and Honda are willing to provide finance to a foreigner in their own name, provided you have a valid longer term visa, a Work Permit, bank statements and Pay slips for at least 6 months.

Both also require a Thai guarantor (unfortunately), although like I said they will still provide it in the foreigners name no problem. The Thai also needs to have bank statements/pay slips.

They also both require top insurance to be purchased, both about 16,000 as part of the price you have to pay to get the bikes out of the shop. And the registration also costs about 3,000.

The other thing is..Kawa have the ER-6N ready to go. The Honda CB650F I was quoted a 3 month waiting time!! There must have been at least 40 brand new (CB650F/CBR650F) bikes outside the shop..and apparently they are all sold/ordered already! So seems like the CB will be a very popular bike.

The Kawa shop said it would only take 1-3 days to have the bike ready to go when upfront payments were done.

Coincidentally I spotted my first CB650 on the roads today..the guy was absolutely flying around a tight corner and almost came on to the other side of the road in to oncoming traffic. he must have been well over 100, with the knee almost down on a busy road. I can't help but think he had just got it out of the shop today and got a bit carried away!

My bike has finance in my wife's name. Honda BW in Udon used either SCB or Kasikorn. We went with Kasikorn with a 25% deposit over 18 months. I think it's 3% interest.

Kasikorn initially tried to pull a fast one by saying that they could only do it over 3 years, so my wife said we would pull our 9 bank accounts from them. They then woke up and did their jobs properly.

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Here is a link I found quoting prices/down payment/ and corresponding monthly repayments over different time periods for the CB/CBR 650F.

http://www.cb650fclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=60.0

The total interest payable over 24 months on CB650F is only 300k. The cash price is 285k..that seems like a great rate to me! 

Just wonder whether or not a farang could get the same rate...

A buddy of mine recently bought a new Ducati with 50% down and he had issue with them wanting a Thai guarantor, he has a work permit money here, but his purchase was delayed for 2 months and he was ready to pull out and lose the deposit over it, eventually they agreed.

 

I had no problem with Kawasaki when I purchased my Ninja a few years back, put down the 30%, work permit, no guarantor, when I just recently bought my Harley, 50% down they wanted a guarantor as well, but accepted my wife who doesn't work, after some negotiation. We do own a house a well, but really Kawasaki was a lot easy for me than Harley and Ducati for my buddy. 

That's great news! I remember reading somewhere else that Kawa/Honda were ok providing finance to foreigners in their own name provided a WP, bank statements and a bigger deposit than normal (30% i read also) were forthcoming.

Can I ask which town/city or brancj of Kawa provided the finance?

I t does also seem like it is very much on a case by case basis whether or not they do it. And also probably depends on what mood they are in!

 

 

for bikes, it is a bit harder to get finance what i understand.

For Honda last time i asked, it was complicated. they need a guarantor currently working with good credit score and with yellow book or company owner etc. 

They dont even care of you work or not as long as your Thai guarantor has a good credit score. Strange thing is even if you are a shareholder of a company in Thailand or won houses, still they ask a Thai guarantor funnily!

Sure Kawasaki is the same.

The thing is when i wanted to do finance for a truck, they ask nearly nothing. Just my passport, work permit and shareholder papers! Much more easier to buy a car than a bike for foreigners in Thailand for sure!

But Ducati is much more relaxed on finance as they do their own financing unlike Honda or Kawa which use banks. if you are a shareholder of a company in Thailand or houses/cars, they do finance quickly.

 

For second hand bikes, you can do finance but believe me, interest rates are rocket high on those small finances that they make god knows with which company. Plus they ask Thai guarantor with yellow house book or company owner documents etc.

 

Does anyone have experience buying a 2nd hand bike from an official dealer? Does the finance work just like it is a new bike from the dealer? Or would it be subject to the higher interest rate that seems to take effect on 2nd hand bikes?

 

 

i was about to get a 2nd hand cbr600rr here with finance. But 300 k i needed to pay was 450 k with finance for i remember 3 years so i say No! of course.

For second hand bikes, interest rates are a lot higher as i think they do the finance with some dodgy places.

The rest is same, they ask for a Thai guarantor working or owning things in Thailand.

 

Wow..that's extremely high interest rates for 2nd hand! 50% over 3 years extra seems a bit much. Like almost 20% per year!

I am thinking between the kawa er 6n, and the Honda CB650F...both around the same price. I guess it will be whichever one is easiest to get finance from will win. And also the cheapest over the loan term of course. 

I have a Work Permit, and a salary that more than covers it, and a long period of time with bank statements showing income.

Hopefully that will be enough to get it in my own name, without a guarantor!

for bikes, it is a bit harder to get finance what i understand.

For Honda last time i asked, it was complicated. they need a guarantor currently working with good credit score and with yellow book or company owner etc. 

They dont even care of you work or not as long as your Thai guarantor has a good credit score. Strange thing is even if you are a shareholder of a company in Thailand or won houses, still they ask a Thai guarantor funnily!

Sure Kawasaki is the same.

The thing is when i wanted to do finance for a truck, they ask nearly nothing. Just my passport, work permit and shareholder papers! Much more easier to buy a car than a bike for foreigners in Thailand for sure!

But Ducati is much more relaxed on finance as they do their own financing unlike Honda or Kawa which use banks. if you are a shareholder of a company in Thailand or houses/cars, they do finance quickly.

 

For second hand bikes, you can do finance but believe me, interest rates are rocket high on those small finances that they make god knows with which company. Plus they ask Thai guarantor with yellow house book or company owner documents etc.

Does anyone have experience buying a 2nd hand bike from an official dealer? Does the finance work just like it is a new bike from the dealer? Or would it be subject to the higher interest rate that seems to take effect on 2nd hand bikes?

If you have a Work Permit, legal employment contract and decent salary, finance should not be a problem even without a guarantor. Most large big bike dealers offer it, check their websites.

I'm not sure about secondhand bikes though but I think doubtful.

I checked to see anything worth checking out on the Honda or Kawasaki websites?

Thanks for the response!

I have been looking for more information on bike finance, both new and 2nd hand bikes, but can find very little up to date information so hopefully some recent buyers or more knowledgeable members can provide some up to date info.

Some questions that might be useful to have answered below:

As I understand buying new bikes on finance seems to be much easier and can be done in foreigners name? Is this true? Are some dealers reluctant to do this or do  all the main dealers (Kawa, Honda) now offer this as standard with no hassle?

Is a Thai counter-signer needed for new bikes?

For 2nd hand bikes, how do people usually get credit for them? Is it possible or not?

Is this done through a finance company? Or a bank? Which is best? Do both offer finance to foreigners? Or does it need to be in a Thais name? Was a Thai counter-signer needed?

Which banks or finance companies, in peoples experience, would or would not offer finance?

Or at the end of the day, is it just impossible to do it in your own name and either don't bother or get a Thai to do it for you?!

Cheers for any informative responses!