TerraplaneGuy

I have just done my first retirement extention in khon kaen 60 days seasoning for the 800,000 no problems what so ever, staff friendy polite and very helpful.

Hi Colinneil, that's good news - were you on a non-immigrant O-A prior to the extension or another kind of visa? If you were on O-A, had you prolonged your permission past the visa expiry date (i. e. past your initial 12 months) by doing re-entries while it was still current?

Cheers,

TG

Visa exempt would be a border crossing and return without visa (for the countries allowed this) so would be a 15 or 30 day stamp which you immediately convert to non immigrant 90 day stay at immigration using age/financial proof and the application form TM.86 or TM.87 (from visa exempt or tourist visa entry). Cost would be 2,000 baht at immigration.

Hey Lopburi, thanks for the clarification. I'm Canadian so I believe would get 30 days entry on an exempt basis. It looks to me I would use form TM.87 because if I enter I won't have any visa whereas TM.86 is for changing an existing visa. Is that correct? Also, would I need to do the exempt entry by air and would I need to show a return ticket out of Thailand for purposes of Immigration and/or the airline?

Cheers

TG

... a visa exempt entry would work the same and you could do that immediately as no seasoning of funds required for conversion and then you would have the 90 days of the new visa entry that you acquire to complete the seasoning.

Hey Lopburi3, thanks! Can you please clarify - by a "visa exempt entry" do you mean the first alternative in my original post, i.e. applying for a 90 day O-visa from outside Thailand, and then convert when back in Thailand?

I will definitely let the forum know the outcome of my 60-day seasoning application, which I expect to make in about 10 days.

TG

... if you want to have a higher confidence about this is to visit the immigration office you will be applying to and asking them. The trouble with that is that your question may be answered by someone who isn't actually a retirement extension officer. (So it might be wrong).

Hey Jingthing, thanks! I have the same concern as you about asking in advance so I think I'll just go in and try my luck when it's time to apply (it will be at Chiang Wattana in BKK). But that's why I want to be ready in case they say no. I won't have much time then. Do you have any thoughts on the questions I asked about alternatives in my original post?

Cheers

TG

It will be your first extension of stay so you will only need money in bank for 60 days. Your visa entries do not count as an extension.

Don't worry about needing more than 60 days.

Ubanjoe and Wayned, thanks for your replies and that's reassuring. But please tell me, how certain are you - have you been in my situation and got extended based on 60 days seasoning only? If so how recent was that? Policies (or their interpretation by various offices) do shift and I want to be ready for any surprises, hence my questions about alternatives.

Has anyone else recently done the 60-day seasoning route successfully in a fact situation like mine? Any thoughts on my questions about alternatives?

Thanks!

TG

Hi All,

A number of you have been very helpful on previous threads in guiding me toward my first one-year retirement extension. I am going to apply soon but am concerned I may not get it due to insufficient "seasoning" of my THB 800K. So I have the following questions. I'm sure they have been touched on in one way or another on this site but I haven't found the focused information I need.

First, background: Over 50, came on 1 year non-O-A visa. Visa expired June 2012 but I re-entered in February 2012 so have permission to stay until Feb 2013. I moved THB 800K into a Thai account in late November 2012 so will have 60-day seasoning but not three-month seasoning prior to expiry of my permission. Although this will be my first application for extension, it is not quite clear, given my re-entry, and thus prolonged permission to stay, whether this will be an extension "for the first year only" within the meaning of s. 2.22 (4) of Police Order 777-2551. If not, three-month seasoning will be required and I will fail the test. Then I will need to use an alternate route. I might possibly be able to use the "combo" method but I assume not for purposes of this thread.

Questions:

1. I believe one alternative is to apply from outside Thailand for a non-immigrant O visa (which I believe will be for 90 days) and then apply in Thailand to extend it for 1 year (retirement). Precisely what would I need for the O visa application and is there a preferred port for it (Kuala Lumpur? Vientiane?).

2. I believe another route is to enter Thailand with a tourist visa and then apply in Thailand to extend it for 1 year (retirement). Again, precisely what is needed and what port is preferred?

3. Which of the above 2 alternatives is best?

Many thanks in advance for any advice.

Cheers,

TG

Thanks all for the directions!

Hi Partington, sorry about the terminology, as a newcomer I find it hard sometimes to express these concepts in the accepted form. I take your point.

Cheers,

TG

Thanks All! Is there any easy way to get to Chiang Wattana starting via BTS/MRT from Sukhumvit or is a taxi the best bet?

Cheers

TG

Assuming that you seek an annual extension based on retirement and already have some kind of O visa.

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(On the office location question, yes, you must use the Thai immigration office associated with your RESIDENCE in Thailand] ...)

Hi Jingthing,

Can you (or anybody else on this thread) please tell me the right office to apply at for a retirement extension? I'm in BKK on Sukhumvit Soi 11 (Nana BTS). What office should I go to?

Background: As per my other thread which you helped me on, I'm Canadian, over 50, entered on a non O-A which is expired but I got longer permission to stay by doing re-entries. Now I'm going to apply for a 1 year extension on Form TM7, using the THB 800K deposit method.

Thanks!

TG

Sorry, I wasn't clear. My O-A visa expired in June 2012. But I had re-entered in February 2012 so got the additional 12 months from then. So I am permitted to stay until Feb. 2013. Meanwhile I had to travel, so I got a multiple re-entry permit, which I last used to re-enter Thailand in December 2012. I will now be applying for my first formal extension, from Feb 2013-2014, using the Form TM7. Hope that makes sense!

Cheers and thanks all,

TG

" I'm doing it to get a one year extension of my expired non-immigrant O-A visa (I'm over 50 and already extended for a few months with a re-entry permit)."

A re-entry permit does not extend anything. It simply keeps your current 'permission to stay until' date alive.

Post 5 gives you the answers you asked for.

Terry

Hi Terry,

Thanks - I shouldn't have used the word "extended", I just meant it in the colloquial sense that the permit allowed me to stay longer than I would have been able to under the original visa, not in the formal sense.

Cheers,

TG

1. Latest entry in Thailand

2. Retirement

Jingthing, thank you!

TG

Check the date you are permitted to stay till. Usually if you enter while the visa is still valid you should bbe stamped in for a full year.

Harry,

Thanks but sorry, I don't understand your comment. The form doesn't ask for the date until which I am permitted to stay, and I am not wondering how long I will be extended for. My question is how to fill in the form where it asks for the port and date of my arrival: my question is which arrival do they mean, my original arrival or my latest arrival (since I've re-entered a number of times).

Cheers

TG

Hi All,

This is a pretty small-scale question but I'd appreciate a couple of tips filling out my first Form TM7. I'm doing it to get a one year extension of my expired non-immigrant O-A visa (I'm over 50 and already extended for a few months with a re-entry permit). Where the form says "Arrived by ... from ... port of arrival ... date" does that mean the latest re-entry I did (which is just last month) or is it referring to the original entry with my O-A visa over a year ago? I suspect it means the latest re-entry but if anyone can confirm I'd appreciate it. Also, where it says "Reason(s) for extension ..." is it sufficient to simply put "Retirement"?

Anything else I should look out for?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

TG

Correct. The bank will know what to provide.

You also need your bank book, updated and showing the same balance.

Thanks Lite Beer!

TG

Hi All,

I'm over 50, had a 1 year non-immigrant O-A visa that was extended by re-entries, now approaching my first real 1 year extension.

Members of this forum have been extremely helpful along the way answering my questions (thanks for your patience!). Now I have a question about the bank letter I have to get to establish my THB 800K. I asked the bank to say in it that I've had that amount for at least 60 days (for the seasoning requirement). They said they don't do that, they just say what my current balance is and how long I've been a customer, and that they think Immigration will check seasoning from my passbook. Is that correct? I just want to make sure I get everything I need in that letter before heading off to Immigration.

Thanks in advance for any help.

TG

Go to the Embassy and apply.

I am a Canadian citizen and went last week to the embassy in BKK and was charged THB 1,800 for a 1 month single-entry tourist visa. At first they tried to charge me even more, assuming I wanted next-day pick-up. I told the man I was not in a rush so he charged the 1,800 and said come back in 3 days. He said that is the cheapest fee. I think it is outrageous. It is about US$60 whereas on the Vietnam embassy website there is a fee sheet that says $30 for this visa (I only saw it after I bought my visa). If anyone knows a cheaper way please let us all know for future.TG

Thank you. On another string I asked this question but haven't heard back: In Bangkok, which Immigration office do I send the 90 day report to?

From the immigration website. Needs others to verify as immigration website is not always up to date:

1. Immigration Bureau(Sub-Div.2,Imm.Div.1)
   Chalermprakiat Government Complex
   120,Moo 3,Chaengwattana Road,soi 7
   Thungsonghong,laksi Bangkok 10210
   

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Thanks!

The address is:

90 DAYS REGISTRATION,

IMMIGRATION DIVISION 1

Chalermprakiat Government Complex

120 MOO 3, CHAENGWATTANA ROAD,SOI 7,

LAKSI, BANGKOK. 10210

Thanks Mario!

Hi All, I'm over 50 on a non-imm 1 yr. O-A visa. ...

Thanks for any advice!

TG

It very much depends on when you leave. if you leave on day 90, no need to report. If you leave on day 91 you need to report and can do so by mail.

Late reporting carries a fine, usually 2,000 baht.

Thank you. On another string I asked this question but haven't heard back: In Bangkok, which Immigration office do I send the 90 day report to?

You can still mail 90 day reports. What was changed was that you have to use the ofice for your own region, so now you have to post it to your own regional office. (only a very few immigration offcies seem to refuse 90 day reports by mail, but the law states you can mail them.

Just follow the procdure described here, and use the address of your own immigration office instead of BKK.

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Use registered mail, so you have a receipt of sending it!

Hi, I live in Bangkok near Nana (Sukhumvit soi 11) and my question is which Immigration office should I send it to, since there are a number in Bangkok?

Thanks!

TG

Hi All, I'm over 50 on a non-imm 1 yr. O-A visa. I've never done a 90 day report because I've travelled in and out a lot, thereby re-setting the meter every time. But I am coming up to one and I'd appreciate any info as to how strict they are about the exact counting of days. As it happens, my travel plans have me leaving Thailand again exactly 90 days, or possibly exactly 91 days, into my current stay. Then I'll return in a week. Is there any possibility I will get in trouble for failing to file a 90 day report before leaving? If so what is the trouble?

Thanks for any advice!

TG

Yes that is correct so if you have, as apparently you do, a valid multi entry O-A a new entry before it expires will allow you a new one year stay from date of new entry and once obtained your re-entry permit will have that date.

Thank you!

Service for Re-entry permit online by Stop & Stamp

Contact at Immigration Division1 (Soi SuaPlu , Satorn Rd.) 1st Floor , 1 Building

Tel. : 0-2287-1983

Office hour: Mon-Fri 8:30 - 12.00 and 13.00 - 16:30 , Sat 8:30 - 12.00 , Closed on OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS

Click here for a map

http://bangkok.immig....th/intro1.html

stop and stamp is an express service for re-entry permits.

Thank you! By the way, am I right to assume that the re-entry permit will have an expiry date of the last date I am admitted to stay? I ask because the reason I want the re-entry is I will be going to Canada for a several month period in June and my 1 year O-A non imm visa expires in June. Currently I am admitted beyond that date - until Feb. 2013 (because I travelled out this February). So I guess the re-entry permit will state it expires Feb 2013 and I'm thinking I may do a border run now, before applying for the permit, to get a later date on it. Is my understanding correct?

I believe the E-mailing-in service is for stop-and stamp and can be used during weekdays. Saturday morning doesn't require emailing it in.

That is how I understand how it works, but I'm not 100% sure.

Thanks - what does "stop and stamp" mean? Also it looked to me that the Suan Phlu office is only open on Saturdays, is that incorrect?

Cheers

TG