Furryman

Just finishing with the ED visa after a little over 2 years and I never got tested, but it does happen now and then, pretty randomly.

When they do it seems to almost always be pretty simple stuff that you ought to know if you are going to class and studying, but not always.

Was actually talking to the office girls at my school today and they told me about one time when an immigration officer handed a student a book of the Thai tax codes and wanted him to read that. Lots of people would have a hard time making sense of tax codes in their native language!

Overall, I would not worry about it much, just go to class and learn best you can.

Like others mentioned, bike can be bought with any kind of visa to your name if you have the residency sertificate which will be the issue here. CW doesn't issue those for the people with tourist visa.

Come spend a month in Pattaya, get letter from hotel stating you have booked for a month, get res cert and register it here.

OR

Or ask your landlord for the papers to get a yellow house book. You can get a yellow house book even if you are a renter. Yellow house book can be used in place of Res Cert for doing the bike registration.

Yellow house book also works to get Thai prices at places that no longer accepts a Thai drivers license to get Thai price, like Khao Yai park.

I did Pattaya to Udon Thani and back last year on an Airblade and it was a great ride.

I did go to an upholstery shop and got them to redo the seat cushioning to my taste, you might try the same. Only cost me about 600 baht for the custom seat re-upholstering.

Yeah, you must have a work permit to buy a vehicule in your name.

Totally not true, I bought my current bike while I was on a tourist visa. It is in my name, always has been.

You do need to have a work permit to finance a bike in your own name.

The hangup seems to be with getting the res cert from the local imm. office. You should be able to get a res cert with a copy of your rental agreement/contract, but TIT

No idea what one can do about an office that makes up it's own rules.

My little airblade always seems happiest when fed with Caltex fuel.

Another quick question. Does the Phantom have an oil filter? I was shocked to find out the airblade has none, but it got me to be a lot more regular with oil changes knowing that.

Do they make one that fits the Phantom?

I am thinking about buying a Phantom from a friend, he is 'upgrading' to a car. He is the second owner, both previous owners were falangs. I'm a big guy, 186cm and a bit tubby, but I don't like big bikes all that much. I had a Suzuki GZ250 for a long time and I loved that bike, and I am pretty sure I was tubbier when I owned it. I had a VX800 and it was an awesome bike too but it was a little bigger than is my preference.

I drove a VW bus for a long time and I tend to drive all my vehicles in a similar way to driving an old bus; not tearing away from a stop like I'm in a drag race, and not too fast at the top end. Honestly, with the general condition of Thai roads I think going much over 100 kph is crazy. Especially in the country when you never know when the road may be blocked by a herd of cows.

I do want to spend a good amount of time out on the roads traveling all over Thailand now that I'm turning 50 and I won't be tied down staying close to school here in Pattaya.

What is it about the handling, dry and in the rain, that is bad? Is it just the normal thing with cruiser style bikes that they are less agile? How would you compare the handling to an Airblade? That's what I ride now, ridden from Pattaya to Udon Thani and back on it too FWIW

If it is a butt clencher how is it also boring to ride? Is it just that is is not all that fast? Or is the handling really bad?

I have heard that an NV400 engine can be dropped into the Phantom frame very easily, almost no modifications. Do any of you guys know anyone who has done that? Any legal/registration problems with that?

If you felt you looked silly on a phantom how do you not look silly on a wave 110? I don't get this one at all, and not sure I care, but curious 555

The handling isn't a problem if you ride slowly, the only issues I had were all in the rain, where you cannot trust any sort of lean when cornering.

If you were weaned on a VW Combi bus, the pace of the 200 Phantom may be okay, just get one with a decent engine.

I saw a Phantom with a Suzuki 400 twin, Jo Modify lengthened the frame under the tank by about 2 inches and the result looked quite good and went well.

Without a suitable new bike on the market, I am considering a modified bike, a cruiser is also the best option for me with room for two in comfort.

I would be very surprised if the NV400 engine will drop straight in, it is a bigger bulkier engine and it is water cooled too, so you need to house the water system....Also be careful many of the NV400s are like mine and are shaft drive, so no chance in that case. Add to that they have 4 spark plugs, so one or more may be rendered inaccessible.

The Suzuki is air cooled, a better option

I don't corner hard anyway, not on sand covered Thai roads, and certainly not in the rain. Like I said I'm no race driver, would probably not often break 100, though I did get my Airblade up just over 110 once, as an experiment. It would probablly be nice to have a some space to go faster if I needed to for passing and such.

Would rather have a v-twin over a 4 cylinder anyway, thanks for the info.

So long as you have papers showing the new motor is not stolen, and you are willing to pay the added taxes for the bigger engine, is there any problem with dropping a new engine in the old frame?

I am thinking about buying a Phantom from a friend, he is 'upgrading' to a car. He is the second owner, both previous owners were falangs. I'm a big guy, 186cm and a bit tubby, but I don't like big bikes all that much. I had a Suzuki GZ250 for a long time and I loved that bike, and I am pretty sure I was tubbier when I owned it. I had a VX800 and it was an awesome bike too but it was a little bigger than is my preference.

I drove a VW bus for a long time and I tend to drive all my vehicles in a similar way to driving an old bus; not tearing away from a stop like I'm in a drag race, and not too fast at the top end. Honestly, with the general condition of Thai roads I think going much over 100 kph is crazy. Especially in the country when you never know when the road may be blocked by a herd of cows.

I do want to spend a good amount of time out on the roads traveling all over Thailand now that I'm turning 50 and I won't be tied down staying close to school here in Pattaya.

What is it about the handling, dry and in the rain, that is bad? Is it just the normal thing with cruiser style bikes that they are less agile? How would you compare the handling to an Airblade? That's what I ride now, ridden from Pattaya to Udon Thani and back on it too FWIW

If it is a butt clencher how is it also boring to ride? Is it just that is is not all that fast? Or is the handling really bad?

I have heard that an NV400 engine can be dropped into the Phantom frame very easily, almost no modifications. Do any of you guys know anyone who has done that? Any legal/registration problems with that?

If you felt you looked silly on a phantom how do you not look silly on a wave 110? I don't get this one at all, and not sure I care, but curious 555

Thank Brahma!

Option 1

Move.

Option 2

Pick everything he plants before it's ripe and sell or dispose of it.

Option 3

Buy some ducks and geese (or a couple of goats/pigs) and let them free range, they will eat everything he plants.

Option 4

Don't be a dick.

Personally, if I was hoping to enjoy this piece of land in the long term, I'd find a way to reach some kid of accommodation. IME when Thais have a conflict they tend to find some kind of intermediary to informally mediate the issue, I'd say this is probably your best bet.

Besides, cantaloupes are delicious! Look forward to the coming harvest and consult the guy about what YOU want to plant next. Make future garden plans over some beers, get him on board with you and you will be much happier there.

One thing you will learn is to check any documentation returned to you before you leave the office for correctness.

That goes for Immigration who can put wrong dates, or in one situation I had, the Amphur had to print off 3 Tabian Baans to get the details correct. The translated details were correct, they just made typo errors first on my name, then my address.

That's good advice for so many dealings in Thailand, with government offices or other entities. Saw a post recently about a guy having troubles caused by a typo on some marriage documents, something he did not see until long after he had the documents in hand. I've learned to never step too far away after getting documents back until I have closely double checked them.

Every province in Thailand seems to be autonomous.

Whilst they follow the law, they lay down there own procedures to comply with the law, therefore a lot of answers can only relate to personal experiences within a Province, but the procedures will vary throughout Thailand, as will the experiences.

It seems easiest to expect and prepare for the worst when doing paperwork tasks in Thailand, then you can only be pleasantly surprised.

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

I think you could do it either way, but if you go together, then if there is a problem like some photocopys not being signed or whatever, the other guy is right there to help get it sorted out.

I bought the bike from a dealer. I drove it away and they took care of the green book ie was never checked? Maybe dealers are different

They probably did the number check in the back while you were doing paperwork, so you just did not notice it. Pretty much they check the numbers every year when you pay the taxes. They actually do a rubbing of the number stamped into the metal onto a piece of masking tape. It usually costs 60 baht for that number check and a safety check, making sure lights and horn are working.

Most dealers will do a ownership change for you if you don't want to do the leg work yourself. Costs 800-900 baht for the transfer paperwork service IME.

And tens of thousands, indeed the vast majority, of sex workers here are in the business completely of their own volition.

That was never in question, was it?

I see you chose to ignore and edit out my second point. Decriminalization makes sex workers more safe. If you are concerned about 'protecting young Thai girls', you should be supporting less criminalization, not more.

I ignored your second 'point' because it was drivel. Does the fact that it's a crime to sleep with underage girls put more underage girls in danger?

So now you are shifting the argument to underage girls? We are talking about adults who have the right to make their own decisions. Adults who also should have the freedom to seek help from law enforcement when they are a victim of a crime.

Decriminalization makes sex workers safer, and also frees up law enforcement resources to combat other more serious crimes, like the abuse of underage girls.

Calling it drivel does not make it less true.

"Exploitation of young girls for the satisfaction of elderly male fantasies encourages human trafficking"

the opposite is true. if the laws allow it, there is no trafficking.

Excuse me??!!!

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

There are thousands of women of a legal age working in brothels in this country who were trafficked.

And tens of thousands, indeed the vast majority, of sex workers here are in the business completely of their own volition.

That was never in question, was it?

I see you chose to ignore and edit out my second point. Decriminalization makes sex workers more safe. If you are concerned about 'protecting young Thai girls', you should be supporting less criminalization, not more.

"Exploitation of young girls for the satisfaction of elderly male fantasies encourages human trafficking"

the opposite is true. if the laws allow it, there is no trafficking.

Excuse me??!!!

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

There are thousands of women of a legal age working in brothels in this country who were trafficked.

And tens of thousands, indeed the vast majority, of sex workers here are in the business completely of their own volition.

Trafficking and abuse of sex workers is far more rampant in places where it is illegal and those in the business have no recourse to the law. This is part of why Amnesty International has just recently come out in favor of decriminalization of sex work.

Someone woke up on the self righteous side of the bed this morning.

Thanks everyone for the replies, this seems to be one of those places where the letter of the law and the actual day to day practice are almost polar opposites.

This topic has come up in some other threads but often gets entangled with discussions of 90 day reporting or the forms hotels, guesthouse etc have to fill out when an 'alien' stays with them.

I am soon hoping to be doing more motorbike trips around the country and would really like to get a grip on what the deal is with the TM28. As I understand it the TM28 is pretty much a change of address form you are required to file with immigration (or the local Police dept. if no immigration office is nearby) if you stay somewhere other than your currently recorded address for more than 24 hours.

This has been bugging me for a while, as I have lived here for about 3 and a half years and moved several times, and I like to travel around to different parts of Thailand and I obviously stay at some of those places longer than 24 hours, yet in all that time no one has ever asked me for a TM28, nor have I ever filled one out myself.

If I ride my bike down to Koh Chang and stay at a guest house there for a week, do I need to drop in at the local PD to turn in a TM28?

Say I rode up to Issan and and back and stayed only one night in some hotels and two nights in some others. would I need to file a TM 28 in every town I decided to stay a second night?

When I return to my apartment, the place I actually reside, after one of these trips, do I need to hop over to Jomtien and file another TM28 to let them know I've come home?

To be clear, I am using need in this context meaning 'In order to comply with the letter of the law'. I'm not actually talking about what happens in everyday practice. I do realize that what the law says and what the law does is not always the same thing, but I do feel better knowing what the law actually says, regardless.

So I guess as long as I don't stay anywhere for longer than 24 hours, I don't have to report my whereabouts at all...

This whole thing with address reporting has really confused me for a while especially the tm28.

If I leave my apartment here in Pattaya and spend two nights down on Koh Chang, am I REALLY expected to find a tm28 form, fill it out and go find the Koh Chang police station and turn in the form to the BiB?

If I go spend a weekend with my friend in Udon, does he have to report to immigration that I stayed in his house for a couple of nights? Again do I need to go report myself to the local police office?

This seems crazy, but as I read it, that is exactly what they expect you to do.

Frankly, if your partner is absolutely determined to end the marriage, putting yourself through the arduous and costly ritual of a contested divorce would be a masochistic way of buying some extra married time.

All joking aside, that is the best bit of advice I have seen in this thread.

Usufruct agreements in Thailand.pdf

A rather deviating legal viewpoint can be found at LinkedIn: The Usufruct in Thailand

http://linkd.in/1LQ9xlK

The info in both of those documents seemed to line up, but I only gave them a quick read. Where do they deviate?

Seems to me the key to making it work is finding a willing property owner with property in an area where the local office will actually register the agreement, and making sure that you don't marry the property owner.