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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

These people weren't fired. They all resigned and that's because they weren't allowed to the jobs that they were given to do by May. It is May who is sick. It is May who has wasted time, hoping that the referendum can will get blown off the road by incessant gusts of anti Brexit winds.  

the line between being fired and resigning is pretty thin at this level

 

point is, they couldn't work within the cabinet - their fault not May's - she is the boss

 

PMs command of the cabinet and cabinet politics must be respected-at all cost, that is one of the crucial elements

keeping UK democracy together, that failing - UK is on the slope pointing sharply downwards

 

not happy with PM and her doings? ditch her

however, it is very clear that UK politicians just love her 

 

weird,

going gets a bit tough Tory,  including unruly mob, and DUP, and even Farage rally behind her.

temperature down

they all say

PM is piss artist

PM is piss artist

PM is piss artist

 

this ain't sound at all

 

the guys in that video should never ever be MP again, they lack understanding of the fundamentals

 

12 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

The bar is called : " Le Téléphone ";

girls don't wear knickers/panties and drop their tunic when you pay them a drink.

 

whatever, I am not fussy

what I find with google is "The telephone bar", but I know that the original owner was French.

Been there twice, all hostesses were stark naked.

 

relaxing venue - no Brexit on the agenda

 

 

35 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yes, that's the one in the picture. Outside loo. Inside??

 

Oh, by the way, it's Pattaya Tai Soi 4 if you are thinking of returning.

whatever, always listen to the frequent visitors,   soi 4 Tai

ta

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

aside,

in Pattaya there is a bar called Telephone Box, its up relatively close to Sukhumvit,

Pattaya Klang soi 4 if I remember correctly,

its a private bar, you ust ring the bell and be admitted

anyway,

the entrance is through one of those UK telephone boxes

 

weird bit about the bar is that hostesses are completely naked

 

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Ex Brexit Ministers reveal the truth of how they were constantly overruled by Number 10 Downing St.

 

 

 

this is both frightening and sickening

ex ministers crying for sick mamas and sick buffaloes

 

quite some bunch of politicians you enjoy in the UK

 

 

 

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

I voted UKIP at the referendum, switched tactically to the Tories at the snap election as UKIP stood no chance and I will take a long hard look at the party that Nigel Farage has joined for the next vote. 

 

I have just registered with the "Brexit Party".

 

https://www.thebrexitparty.org/

and with that BP registration,

what do you hope or wish to achieve?

 

please, just very curious-not critical,

days without learning smth new are wasted days

 

1 hour ago, samran said:

So despite my gut warning me not to, I watched the Farage speech, but vomited a little with the Christian zealot fanboys.

 

So Farage’s demand was ‘EU give us a 2 year tariff and quota free period’ 

 

The problem with this is you are outside the EU as of a few weeks. The  EU offer this to no one, unless of course you sign up to being a member. So why should they do you a special deal. Wasn’t your chant ‘out means out’.

 

Well. Suck it up and live with what you asked for. 

I also watched it (2nd time now).

The speech would have been better if he had not mentioned those 39b pounds,

completely unnecessary and drags the whole speech down to the primary school level.

"Buy me that ice cream or else!!!"

 

 

49 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Thanks for that. Didn't realise the rule was different at sea in Thailand.

I'm fairly sure international maritime regs, and in Australia,  state that you pass to the starboard.

No wonder there are so many collisions here.

you have two internationally recognized navigation/driving systems,

IALA-A and IALA-B

Most countries in the East apply IALA-B (left-hand-drive)

Europe and Americas IALA-A (right-hand-drive)

 

But Thailand employs IALA-A in all inland waterways.

 

there are no international maritime regs for vessels, that is just a very common misunderstanding

of the legal situation for the rulez.

all maritime regs are national regs but they are pretty well harmonized world wide

 

I do not understand what you mean by "pass to starboard",

but in a right-hand-drive-system (IALA-A) approaching traffic would normally

pass on your left hand side, also called red-to-red

 

opposite, in IALA-B systems, meeting traffic pass on your right hand side, green to green

 

what I see in Bangkok +++ is that drivers understand this and drive accordingly

 

---

I have been visiting Koh Chiang and Koh Payham in western Thailand a zillion times,

what I see in the Ranong area is that longtail boat drivers understand the rulez and

drive accordingly, drivers of larger displacement ferries understand the rulez and

drive accordingly,

speedboat drivers, the unruly mob, drive all over the place

---

Having rambled about the above

I would never go near a speed boat anywhere along the Eastern Seabed.

Or anywhere around Phuket Samui Full moon party place.

Not safe.

Well, whenever in Pattaya I visit Bali Hai and study the hauled speedboats along the beach,

I feel the hull surface

I knock on the hull and the bottom and listen to the sound

I study the chines

I find and study cracks in the fibre coating

I look feel and knock where different parts of the body are put together,

transom-bottom + bottom-hull + transom-hull

am not at all impressed, not safe.

 

I stay away.

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Another news outlet states 12 injured, but I can't find anything about total numbers on the boat.

Not arguing about the cheap construction of the speed boat, but despite heavy damage after ramming a larger steel hulled vessel, it surprisingly didn't sink.

The most flawed part of the boat was the fool driving it.  On a bright, still day he managed to hit a large, slow moving vessel head-on! 

I sometimes wonder if these idiots know the rules of the sea when passing another vessel, or if they just presume it's the same as on the roads.

yes, similar to the US destroyer that crashed off Singapore couple of years back, slow moving vessel.

 

I have a first class Thai skipper ticket, good for fairly large boats, 60 gross tons if I remember correctly.

My knowledge about the rulez and how to drive was quite thoroughly checked before it was issued.

 

the commonality between Thai roads and Thai sea water is that both are for left-hand-side driving,

whilst all inland waterways employ right-hand-side driving.

 

well. the boat with 10 pax was certainly not overloaded

 

I frequently drive boats on the Chao Praya river, including adjacent canals,

I see very very little stupid driving, most drivers drive well

 

Personally, I stay very far away from these speed boats.

Most of them are built in cheap plywood and then coated with a very thin layer of GRP.

Marine plywood is not available in the Thai market.

Those boats are not safe.

 

13 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 The Irish backstop is a manufactured problem,created by the Bureaucrats in Brussels, with the sole intention of keeping the U.K in the E.u. Against the expressed wishes of the majority of the British people. 

 Pre the referendum it was hardly mentioned, if at all. I wonder why.

Now we are hearing threats against the R.I. That if Brexit occurs without a deal, the Irish MUST erect a hard boarder,otherwise those unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels will throw the I.R out of the single market.

 

 

whoever created the backstop and for whatever reason,

it is a very real stumbling block preventing some degree of a common view on the deal in the UK.

 

somewhat more significant than a red h or a kipper.

 

 

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Says the exact opposite here:

 

nothing new or strange with politicians suggesting to turn left last week

and to turn right next week

 

"Ireland has said it would find it difficult to avoid imposing a hard border on Northern Ireland if the United Kingdom crashes out of the EU without a deal."

 

The above from a Bloomberg interview in Davos.

Not exactly what I was looking for, just can't be bothered to go through a lot of old tales.

 

He was actually quite clear. It went all over European msm.

What he is thinking I do not know.

But I would not be surprised if the EU management has requested him to keep mum re this, for now.

 

 

3 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

No Irish Taoiseach in their right mind would put in a hard border. Think about the repercussions of a hard border versus the repercussions of some people / goods getting across the border illegally. They would simply make some operational changes - as was stated by Barnier. 

I have no idea what so ever if Varadkar is in his right mind or not, I just listened to what he said,

the message was very clear. Prepared to put up a hard border.

This has been all over European msm.

 

 

On 2/6/2019 at 8:53 AM, Grouse said:

Old age state pensions? Frozen? Or just in Winter?

no - not frozen

 

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

I very much doubt that. Do you have any evidence? 

please, doubt as much as you like, no problem

 

one interview, widely published, during the events in Davos, he was very very clear on the border issues.

 

the other one later can't remember when  and where

37 minutes ago, samran said:

Well I’m Australian. I more than most foreigners stand to gain from brexit as I’m betting we’ll be one of the first to sign an FTA with the UK and in its desperation to show the masses it is making headway, you’ll give us a very favourable deal.

 

 One of the things we are aiming for is freer movement and better work rights in the UK, along the lines of the E3 visa that the US offers exclusively to Australians (your leading cheerleader has already expressed support to make it easier for Australians to live and work in the UK https://www.afr.com/news/politics/uk-foreign-secretary-boris-johnson-promises-a-great-trade-deal-with-australia-20170727-gxjub6

 

so from my perspective I stand to gain more than most, but you know what, based on dealing with trade issues and how hard it is to get anything even remotely ‘free’ in trade, you guys are making a massive mistake and you will be severely disappointed on what lies on the ‘other side’ for you. 

agree

WTO is no Dear Mama organization - no scope for sick buffaloes and exceptions.

even NZ and OZ would stab UK over lamb/sheep trade.

 

46 minutes ago, 473geo said:

The vote was to leave, decision by the electorate....

 

I have never complained, democracy dictates the will of the many over the individual.........

 

However what does piss me off are the remainers who will not accept the democratic mandate........for months now I have taken a 20% reduction of exchange rate......largely due to brexit.......I don't mind I will wear that.....part of being in a democracy is that the will of the many is not always beneficial to the individual........

 

The UK demonstrating true democratic process and principals means more to me than a few extra quid in the bank!

 

I also believe if the UK is pushed back into manufacturing rather than importing this will improve the future and resilience to global downturns

that may be so

enjoy your lousy forex

 

pt UK is demonstrating nothing but total political ineptness

enjoy your parliament and government  - was it a true democratic process you called it?

 

3 hours ago, wayned said:

Maybe Teresa May and Donald Trump should get married and go help out Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela!=, or start there own country in Antarctica ruling penguins and seals!  Neither one are fit for their current positions!

undesirable relationship - no future

they have way too many personality traits in common that are best hidden

 

 

33 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Brexit came about only because of Tory fears about UKIP

 

This new party will now split the Tories anyway ????

 

 

 

 

a split of Tory would be very good

if a Labour split followed - just excellent

UK might enter an interesting political terrain

 

Assuming that the UK will not resort to remain,

I can see some justification for a new Brexit/UKIP oriented party.

 

Divorce deal Brexit will leave years and years of negotiations with EU.

No deal Brexit - likewise - presumably shorter though. Will take looooooong time

to disentangle UK and EU.

 

This to be handled by whom? Tory-May with unruly mob (Geve MRJ bojo. Raab DD shouting in the background)?

 

Get some new people onto the stage - sound.

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Brexit came about only because of Tory fears about UKIP

 

This new party will now split the Tories anyway ????

 

 

 

 

what is the raison d'etre of this new party?

who is behind its conception?

 

why does Farage talk about fighting Tory/Labour in May EP elections?

 

43 minutes ago, evadgib said:

The electoral commission (EC) has accepted Ferages Brexit party registration which might shortly prove useful ????

 

 

not sure if this is interesting or not,

a snippet below

 

"Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader who is supporting the party, said "the engine is running" and he stood "ready for battle" to fight the Tories and Labour if European Parliament elections are held on May 23.

Political space for a new anti-EU party has been created by the lurch to the right by the UK Independence Party, which has been adopting"

 

what does this actually mean?

thought the idea was to leave EU on the 29th next month?

 

or have I missed smth, (as usual)?

 

 

1 hour ago, rixalex said:

That depends how far back you want to go. The issue i was discussing was whether or not Juncker could be removed by British people in the same way that they could remove May. The answer is that he can't.

 

If there are NO British MEPs campaigning to remove Juncker, how is a British voter supposed to vote him out? Vote for an MEP that doesn't exist?

 

And even if there are British MEPs campaigning to remove him, a British voter voting for them does not guarantee he will be removed. Far from it, as there are 27 other nations who would have to agree.

 

Comparing the power the British voter has over May's position with that of Juncker's is complete nonsense.

 

bah bah bah

what a totally hopeless argument and discussion

if if if if - if my aunt had a pecker she would have been my uncle

 

the tool you have is your vote

can be used against Tory May in UK

can be used against Juncker in EP