JannoDL

There is obviously a problem with teaching pupils in the english language, at least in Phetchabun province, since no one in my wife's family can speak a single word of English.

I bet they can say "money" and perhaps even "gold"

any body know if this is just the "tip of the nice breast" and are the Thai police keeping the general public 'abreast' of events?

'arrest these suckers'

Here's a thought. Because Bangkok and surroundings are so close to sea level, how about digging up the roads and replacing them with canals? That should keep the waters flowing.

They could come up with some marketing to sell it. They could advertise Bangkok as the "Venice of the East". That's catchy.

Good idea, and to make sure the water dont run out of bangkok again, they should make dikes to contain the water.

In the future it could be advertised as "Floating Thailand" instead of "Amazing Thailand" which anyhow is slightly inaccurate...

Umm for 100,000b you may be looking a long time.. also budget another 15-20,000b to get it up to standard. Fixing the things that need doing new tyres etc. Then have a fairly healthy budget to keep it running.

165,000b http://mocyc.com/sto...assified=599583

That was the answer i did not wish for...

I guess i should reconsider my plans, and either forget it, or revise my budget...

All of this is happening because of a test drive of a Shadow 750... since then my cbr 150 2010 model haven´t felt as good as it used too...

I just loved riding a chopper, and the extra power felt really good too...

Hmmmmm..... i think i may need to take another look at that budget after all...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6 what he said... just to add.. some people think that if the 3% excise tax is paid then the bike is legal to ride (like the guy said) but all that gets you is that the customs will not seize the bike.. Police can still fine you for no number plate etc etc. Really not worth it..

By the way what bikes are you looking at and what is your budget?

Thanks, i will remember that...

I am looking for some kind of a chopper, in a decent condition, my budget is maybe 100k, if i find the right bike...

Edit: a bike from one of the big producers, not some chinese crap, that has never been serviced...

Basically AFAIR if you have the green book for a motorcycle andthe book details match the bike ie chassis and engine numbers, colour, number of cylinders, cc etc you can buy and sell the bike legally.

It will have a number plate, perhaps tax and insurance.

On pages 4 and 5 (and up to pages 14 and 15) will be the details of the bike and the previous owners.

16 and 17 will tell you when the road tax was last paid.

18 and 19 will list the owners and any change of number plates due to moving to a new district etc.

Basically (if it not a fake document) it means that it is legal and you can buy it,own it, ride it away and do what you like with it.

That is the easy bit.

Now assuming that the bike does not have a green book but it does have a full invoice with all duties paid etc then all you need to do is to go to the local vehicle licencing department and register it.

Easy?

No!

Firstly it will need a full emission check which is only done at a couple of places in the country, Mor Chit in BKK for certain but I am not sure of any more.

Depending on the bike it can cost anywhere between 50 and 100,000 baht to get it done legally and it can take several months or more to get it done.

After that provided all the customs duties are paid and you have the receipts you should be able to get it registered and legal to use on the road.

Provided that you have all the documents AND have insurance which is difficult with no number plate then you may be able to ride it around.

Now if it is a nice big bike and you have no plate and the local BiB take a fancy to it they can stop you and impound the bike while you sort out the fines and paperwork and your bike may get "lost" in the police compound but you may see a policeman riding around on it.

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But then it gets confusing again because this seller who appears to sell a lot of bikes writes the following:

"come with all Thailand Legal Riding and Ownership Documentation (No Greenbook) + One Year Transferable Insurance Available"

If you believe and trust him, before you buy from him please come to see me as I have a bridge for sale cheap and only one owner from new.

Basically my advice to you is simple, easy and free.

If it has a green book then most probably it is legal and OK.

If it doesn't the please politely walk away and keep your money until another bike you like with a green book turns up.

I have a Honda Phantom which I bought over 2 years ago with 5,xxx on the speedo which is a goog reliable cruiser despite the slagging it gets from hyper bikers but a rocket ship it ain't.

I looked around at a lot of bikes, Honda steeds etc which with a green book were out of my price range and without the green book would have cost more in the long term.

I eventually found after about 6 months of looking a Yamaha Virago 535 cc with a green book and legal though a bit untidy and it took me a month and 2 trips to BKK to get it.

In the meantime I saw some beautiful Viragos and Steeds but not one with a green book.

There will probably be a few bikers who will read my post and say but it isn't like that, it's really easy as I know a guy who did it quick and cheap and.... etc.

Always remember in the end it is your money and your choice.

My advice, go for one with a green book preferably owned by a farang as we belive in servicing and TLC.

Perfect answer my big hairy friend... I am supposing you are a big huggable bear... lol

Fun aside, this is a really good answer, it just ended my search for any bike without a green book. Clearly i need to be extremely lucky for it to be worth it....

Apart from that i should take a good look at the book, and compare it with the bike as much as possible, and if it looks good i can buy it safely.

BTW i have had my eye on a virago 535... what is it like, and does it give me that chopper feeling? I want a bike for cruising, and i am in love with the shadow, and the steed, but with green book they are very expensive.

Thanks a lot

Janno

I am of the understanding that without a green book the bike can not be legally registered or driven in thailand.........Anybody can print a invoice so up to you

So you are saying that this basically is the same as having a bike without a license plate?

That wont fly in my city...

I think there is a motorcycle forum with lots of experts on this subject,I'm not....maybe you could simply click on "search" and find the answer...or use simple common sense...the green book is official(and legal) registration document,the invoice is just a paper stating,that the bike has been brought to the country legally...but must be still registered,what from my understanding, costs a lot...a lot !!

And after researching a lot... a lot

I have not found a clear answer yet... people think they know, but noone says they know the answer...

But from what i have been able to put togtether from different answers it looks like if i buy a bike with only the invoice, i would have to pay import tax for it to get a green book and license plate...

So you are probably right, it will be rather expensive...

But then it gets confusing again because this seller who appears to sell a lot of bikes writes the following:

"come with all Thailand Legal Riding and Ownership Documentation (No Greenbook) + One Year Transferable Insurance Available"

And it gets me thinking, how can the bike be fully legal without plates? and how can it be insured without plates?

I still need some answers... but maybe i need to go to a more specialised forum to get them...

Thanks for trying guys...

Can it really be true that nobody knows the difference between buying a bike with a green bok, or buying one with only invoices?

Hi All

I have two bikes, with green book and everything.

Now i am looking at a Big-Bike but most of them only comes with an invoice, so i wondered if anyone would explain the difference clearly and simple.

Thank you

RIP

Horrible accident, the pictures are as taken right out of one of the better action movies.

This is the accident everybody new was possible, and silently hoped never would occur.

Amazing only person were killed...

What is google + ?

Google + is googles version of facebook.. a social network designed to take their cut of the traffic on social networks.

This is their third attempt at making a social network.

Thank you Just1voice... i love it already <img src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" alt=""><br><br>I  have not been driving above 100kph on it yet, as i have not been far  out of pattaya yet, and also i want to get to know the bike and how it  handles first... <br>I think it is better to be a bit safe, than sorry <img src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" alt=""><br>I  am learning to lean when i am turning, and how to gain full control  when driving slow... anyone can drive fast, its just a matter of turning  the throttle up...<br><br>I think it still have the stock irc tires, so i will have to look into that.<br><br>Here is the pictures i promised.<br><br>

Janno

No more coupons no... but as stated in the service manual, they don't charge service for oil change, only the oil.

I finished translating the pages 12 and 13 of the service book with the maintenance schedule.

You will see it attached to this post.

Interesting fact : when I compared this one and the previous generation (without FI), the chain check / adjustment / lubrication frequency is now set at 500 Km, the previous one was 1000 km.

I wonder what makes this generation different for the chain, strange...

Anyway, I will start translating the owner manual now, it will take a while, feel free to comment if I made mistakes. I am far from fluent...

Cheers

Fab

Hi Fab

This is perfect, and really appreciated... Thank you!

I have no idea why the chain would need a more frequent adjusting, and checking, but it kinda makes me more at ease as it seems to be something to be expected.

Nice pictures too!

Cheers

Janno

Hi everyone

On friday last i bought a red cbr150R second hand, but 2010 model.

the bike were first registered 20th Jan. 2011 and when i bought it it had 2850 km on the meter... (I got a very good deal)

I will post some pictures later...

This is my first post in here, and after reading a lot of this thread and practically any other thread regarding this bike, i decided it was the one for me, not too big, and not too small for a beginner.

I will post some pictures later...

I am writing because when i bought the bike, it had the same issue of a very loose chain, and because i have never before driven with manual gears on a bike, i have a bad habit of releasing the throttle completely which resulted in a clanking sound from the chain... i actually thought the bike were breaking down on me for a while.

After a quick visit with my local mechanic, he gave me the same treatment of tigthening it for free, it helped a lot (together with me easing up on the throttle )

I would also like to know if others have experience with this chain problem... and whether or not i need to buy a specific chain for my bike...

Finally i just have to say i love riding a motorcycle, even though i am still doing baby steps, and are not really capable of doing much with the bike yet.

Janno

P.S. i have studied driving vids and descriptions, and are slowly learning about friction point and how to control the bike at slow speeds. (Thank you youtube! )