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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:Comedy-ish break. More about Boris Johnson. A LOT more.
Well comedy you think. he has done more in 3 days than Theresa May did in 3 years. he has told the little nasty Nichola Sturgeon, to go and whistle. He has also said to the EU, if you want to negotiate we are here. Get rid of the backstop, which is keeping the UK in the EU, as any one who can write their own name knows.
If that's what those countries who are chained to the EU think, well great. The UK is leaving the EU on the 31st October 2019. If you find that comedy, so be it.
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36 minutes ago, bannork said:Who ever said leave means leave by any means possible? Was that written in the question at the referendum?
If someone asked you if you wanted to remain on or leave an island and you said yes to the latter, only to find the way you are going to leave is on a boat riddled with holes, you might change your mind about leaving.
Well if you don't have a list of what leave means then you take the exact term, literally. remember the leader of remain telling everyone, if people voted leave we would be leaving. David Cameron in case you forgot.
Your analogy is rubbish. How do you know there are holes. We haven't left yet. It is just the remainers and those trying their best, to frighten and keep the UK shackled to the EU. People won't die, we are leaving an entity, not relinquishing modern day living. Talk about doomsday talk. Please
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1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:
That was the opinion of Alex Salmond. Nothing to do with the constitutional position of referendums.
In Scotland the people are sovereign. Not parliament or indeed the First Minister so it is up to the people of Scotland to decide when and if they want another referendum. No-one outside of Scotland has any right to deny this.
If you are so confident you should be screaming for another referendum.
I am confident but as I mentioned my reasons already why having another one so early is demeaning, I look forward to the next one in 15 years. Then you can open this thread and we can see who is right.
As I am sure you and everyone knows Alex Salmonds was leading the campaign for leaving the Union. So if your number one person says its once in a lifetime opportunity, if you can't accept, you probably wouldn't accept another defeat, in a referendum. Sounds like the Jo Swinson syndrome.
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1 hour ago, david555 said:Good morning ,I was just answering one stupid remark with another stupid from me , hoping you would see yours ….
Not apparently ….
Actually your remark was stupid, mine was factual.????
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2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:
Where does it state referendums can only be held once in a generation?
Just quoting the then First Minister leading up to the referendum. plus he said there would not be a second referendum, or have you conveniently forgotten.
4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:I know why you personally dont like the idea of another referendum.
So you are Mystic Meg now.
5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:You think the result will go the other way next time.
I actually think that the result would be even greater in favour of remaining in the UK, especially when NS and her plan for Scotland would be exposed and her mismanagement of the country.
6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:We vote in parliamentary elections every 5 years. S
That is mostly correct. It has to be within a 5 year period.
7 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:Should they be changed to every 50 years?
No but elections are not referendums.
To have another referendum within such a short space of time would undermine and de value referendum results. Every 20 years is more than acceptable in my view.
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3 minutes ago, david555 said:Being also not a Brit and so not knowing...,I wonder if the option "No deal" was that on the ballot paper then?…..(lol)
It was leave or remain, even the ill informed and ignorant know that. So leave, as many have pointed out means leave. In English not Dutch that means by any means possible. We don't need to put terms on the end as it is clear, as English mustard.
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1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:
I really dont understand the reluctance of unionists to hold another referendum.
This is your chance to kill off calls for independence.
All you have to do is present a positive case for staying in the UK and people will vote to do so.
Oh wait now I do understand why you dont want another referendum.
Because one was held a few years ago, the once in a lifetime referendum. Not only do they cost money, there value is diminished if you have one every couple of years, because you don't like or respect the result. Do you understand now!
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1 hour ago, puipuitom said:That's why the PVV, the only for a NEXIT, lost all their 4 seats in the EU parliament, back to ZERO. We donot want to commit economical + financial suicide.
Every day I love it to be at this pub.
Think of the British now on holidays in the EU or in US$ countries or soon to go, and will discover this morning they will get -1,47 % in Euro's or -1,22% in US$-connected currencies for their GBP compared with Monday morning ?
UK a tax haven ? How you think the "common wallet" also called the country's treasury, will be filled to pay the tax relief of Boris for his Eton boys ?
And for the EU budget: do not worry, it will be filled more as all can expect with import duty over the products still imported from the UK. 5% at average over 50% left of the imports ex UK ( 288,9) = 38,89 billion, about 5 x the nett UK contribution to the EU.
Pity, the EU allowed the UK another 7 months delay.
Your comments are like pub talk, full of nonsense. I pity you coming from a country that voted against the EU and you just let them overrule you. Not much backbone there at all, but that is history for you. London is still the financial capital of the world, as much as the French and Germans would like it not to be.
The weaker the pound the more people will spend at home, so more money for the UK economy. Employment is great in the UK so no issues there.
I am glad the other EU countries will fill the budget gap. Long overdue.
The UK will trade with the rest of the world and this is where the EU and the likes of you forget. There really is a bigger world outside of the EU. Sensible people realise that. I guess you have small country syndrome.
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1 minute ago, puipuitom said:
No preferences anymore, accept Schengen and €uro + right lane traffic.
Ha ha that's your dream isn't it. You have no idea of the UK if you think that will ever happen. How about Holland and the others start filling in the budget hole left by the UK. Start buying fish from the UK at least 3 times the price, as you won't be fishing in UK waters. The UK will be a new tax haven for countries and the EU will hate it.
If you ever go to the UK and see the lanes at immigration, the UK and EU lane is always full with EU citizens, the foreign lane is empty. Same in most countries of the EU, so I will take that lane anytime.
Your country has sold its soul to the EU don't tell others what to do. We voted leave and will. Sadly your country didn't have the gonads to do the same.
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2 minutes ago, nkg said:
Perhaps it illustrates that the UK has a stronger bargaining position than is generally acknowledged. Apparently Germany exports more cars to Britain than to the US and China combined.
It will be interesting to see what the EU offers Britain before the October 31st deadline.
I can see your point entirely and you make a valid point. I personally don't like the FT for their over bias reporting. I am surprised that article slipped through the net.
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3 hours ago, puipuitom said:
And the border between Gibraltar and Spain ?
I haven't read one syllable about that.
That is because there is no issue just like Ireland unless you try and create one, like the EU are with their puppet Leo as a mothpiece.
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21 minutes ago, nkg said:
Even the Financial Times is predicting disaster for BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen and Audi if there is a no-deal Brexit:
https://www.ft.com/content/c06b1762-761d-11e8-b326-75a27d27ea5f
mmmmm a very one sided remaining tabloid saying this. But it is German cars so personally I think people should buy British cars.
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3 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:On the contrary Brexit will lead to a reformed, sleeker EU. It is currently not fit for purpose and was foisted on people without a vote. Brexit did not create a divided Britain nor did Trump divide America. The divisions were there but the majority of people were being ignored by the liberal marxist influenced power elite. Brexit and Trump gave people a chance to demonstrate their dissatisfaction with extremists values becoming the norm....especially the growth of victimhood, PC extremism, Judaphobia, Identify politics and the dismissal of the working and middle classes fears and concerns
I agree with much of this except the EU reforming. They are incapable of reforming, as the goal is a federalised Europe and the agenda doesn't look it will change, especially with a new EU president. Just look at the rhetoric they consistently say since Brexit. Their arrogance has no bounds. I believe it will need another country that contributes to the EU, to leave before they wake up and 'smell the coffee'.
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12 hours ago, puipuitom said:Which form of "leave"? A No Deal Leave, or a super-soft "leave", or a Norway agreement or... never visit/contact any EU country anymore ?
The term soft Brexit or leave was made up by Reamainers after Leave won. There was no term soft on the ballot paper. You may not know not being British or voted in the referendum.
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12 hours ago, puipuitom said:
Exactly as Charles de Gaulle in 1963 had as reason to block the UK from entering the EEC
Well we agree on something.
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59 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:Boris' assumptions are probably correct. Can't see a situation where EU gave some special deal to UK. It would give exact opposite message to anyone else who might think of leaving. They want to either keep UK in EU or penalise them as badly as they can if they insist on leaving.
I agree with you and what a wonderful organisation that is being championed as a democratic, wonderful, come and join us, forward thinking entity. The EU is nothing like that, it is a bully, bureaucratic and spiteful organisation.
If there is one great thing to come from the UK's referendum on leaving is more and more people know what the EU is really like. People research and read about, when they never did before. If for nothing else the lies and deceit from the EU, are more transparent than ever. I have said it before and even Junker has said it, if other EU members were given an in out referendum, more would leave.
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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:Do you remember why the EU and the UK agreed on the backstop?
They want to avoid a border in Ireland.
And why do they want to avoid that border?
Because they want peace and not a repetition of violence.
Do you agree with this?
So what do you suggest to avoid that border and keep the peace?
And just in case you think about technical solutions which don't exist: Please give us a hint what those solutions will be and when they will exist.
And then there is of course the idea that Northern Ireland stays in the EU market and the border is in the sea like it was agreed originally. That makes a lot of sense to me.
You are believing the hype about the backstop. The UK won't build a border and have said countless times. the EU with Irelands consent are using the backstop and the threat of terrorism, to keep the UK in the customs union and single market.
Well it may make sense for you to keep the UK or even part of the UK stitched to the EU, but we had a referendum and the majority voted to leave the EU and not in name only.
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1 hour ago, keith101 said:I believe that 3 years ago the vote was racially motivated because of all the black and Muslim immigrants moving to the UK for a better life .
I disagree totally, as for many many years people have campaigned for a referendum to leave the EU. Immigrants have had has some impact but why do you say black immigrants. Polish, Spanish and other EU people have had an impact on working class communities and jobs and they are not usually black, as you describe. Or are you just playing the race card, to suit your agenda.
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51 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:The EU can live without the UK and not much will change. For the UK that is very different. The cliff is waiting. Let's run for it. Amazing!
So we keep hearing but they won't let us go. Hence the use of the Irish backstop. We still keep hearing that we can revoke article 50. They do not want us to leave. They are incapable of reforming as we have found out so, the majority voted to leave.
52 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:No Deal is a catastrophe - especially for the UK. Is it worth going for No Deal just to show the Remoaners that they lost and you won?
Again we keep hearing it will be catastrophic for the UK. From the same people who wants us to stay. a no deal has nothing to do with remoaners. It has to do with a democratic vote that must be respected or democracy has failed. it is about saying if we can't come to an amicable agreement then we will leave with a no deal. It really quire simple.
The UK will prosper outside of the EU. As much as the EU want to punish the UK and its well documented, the people of the UK have never really embraced the EU and it never will.
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5 minutes ago, dimitriv said:
Isn't this what Brexit is about ? 52% of the population makes a decision that will harm not only themselves but everybody in the UK ?
Only a couple of % of the votes, where the difference was made by people who are standing already with 1 leg in their graves ?
That's what a democratic binary referendum does. there is a winner and loser. You accept the result and move on. Which country are you from, so we can get an understanding of what you think democracy is.
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11 hours ago, dimitriv said:I predict recession, collapse. And people who come here in a few months to complain that they only get 1 Baht for their GBP ????
I will take that bet. I baht to the pound. Talk about sensationalism..
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3 hours ago, bomber said:
brexit was always going to give us corbyn,the fools couldnt see it and now we have a babboon in charge,he does have charisma but its brains we need,a GE looming and JC will sneak a majority and we will be doomed regardless of brexit,its lose lose lose,win win win for arron banks farage and JRM
Lets see, as I believe that Corbyn is the one reason why Labour are not in power now. The man is a fool, indecisive and does more harm to Labour than good.
Wasn't you one of those saying Boris Johnson would never be PM, so your track record isn't very good.
I do think there will be GE before Christmas and BJ will win with the backing of the brexit party. Just watched Corbyn on Sophie Ridge. He is unconvincing just like in last weeks question time.
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37 minutes ago, bomber said:
am afraid,i know farmers and have never hear'd them moan about the Eu once in 50 years
farmers have been controlled by the Common Agriculture Policy. I remember farms having to be sold because of this.
37 minutes ago, bomber said:fishermen i cannot comment on but iam aware fishing HAS to be controlled or there wont be any left to fish,
Obviously you don't reailse that other EU countries fish far more than the UK does in UK waters, so the idea of controlled fishing as your suggesting, is nonsense.
37 minutes ago, bomber said:again what laws are you referring to?
The Immigration and migration law for one but there are plenty more.
I know it won't change your mind but this explains a few things.
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19 minutes ago, bomber said:
you have avoided the question,i asked how did it affect YOU,if your a farmer/fisherman and feel hard done by please state this,invasion without bullets is fantasy talk iam afraid,i know farmers and have never hear'd them moan about the Eu once in 50 years,fishermen i cannot comment on but iam aware fishing HAS to be controlled or there wont be any left to fish, regardless of kipper packaging ???? again what laws are you referring to? bureaucracy we could all do with out it agree,hows about starting with the HoC,my local council office,my local Nik,doctors,who needs law and order when we have brexit? too easy to blame the EU iam afraid,boris summed you lot up with his packet of kippers,WHAT A WALLY
You should read what you wrote.
"so how did this event make your next 45 years so difficult?"
I have told you. Its all the accumulative events I described.
The rest of your post... well its you trying to be funny, as usual, which you are not.
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Sterling slumps on 'no-deal Brexit' worries; stocks dip
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Okay so you have some sympathy from me, to a point. But let me ask you. You are not old enough to get your state pension. Why are you not working in Thailand, as you are not old enough to retire, unless you are on a personal pension. Did you not think that markets in the world anywhere can have a reduction for anything. Brexit is a classic example,. It hasn't even happened yet and the markets from hearsay, speculation and trying their best to stop investors and people from wanting out of the EU.
Politicians historically have always been more affluent than the common person. Have you seen the wealth of Jeremy Corbyn in that little council house (NOT) in London, of his.
There was a binary democratic referendum with leave winning. It hasn't happened yet and so many are trying to reverse it. You haven't been the UK , so you say for 10 years, so what was your plans moving to Thailand. Why are you blaming the referendum result. I am genuinely interested to find out more, as i am not flaming you, just want to know more background history.