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  1. 1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

    That was the opinion of Alex Salmond. Nothing to do with the constitutional position of referendums.

    In Scotland the people are sovereign. Not parliament or indeed the First Minister so it is up to the people of Scotland to decide when and if they want another referendum. No-one outside of Scotland has any right to deny this.

    If you are so confident you should be screaming for another referendum.

     

    I am confident but as I mentioned my reasons already why having another one so early is demeaning, I look forward to the next one in 15 years. Then you can open this thread and we can see who is right.

    As I am sure you and everyone knows Alex Salmonds was leading the campaign for leaving the Union. So if your number one person says its once in a lifetime opportunity, if you can't accept, you probably wouldn't accept another defeat, in a referendum. Sounds like the Jo Swinson syndrome.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    Where does it state referendums can only be held once in a generation?

    Just quoting the then First Minister leading up to the referendum. plus he said there would not be a second referendum, or have you conveniently forgotten.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11095210/Alex-Salmond-This-is-a-once-in-a-generation-opportunity-for-Scotland.html

     

    4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    I know why you personally dont like the idea of another referendum.

    So you are Mystic Meg now.

     

    5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    You think the result will go the other way next time. 

    I actually think that the result would be even greater in favour of remaining in the UK, especially when NS and her plan for Scotland would be exposed and her mismanagement of the country.

    6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    We vote in parliamentary elections every 5 years. S

    That is mostly correct. It has to be within a 5 year period.

     

    7 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    Should they be changed to every 50 years?

    No but elections are not referendums.

     

    To have another referendum within such a short space of time would undermine and de value referendum results. Every 20 years is more than acceptable in my view.

     

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  3. 1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

    I really dont understand the reluctance of unionists to hold another referendum.

    This is your chance to kill off calls for independence. 

    All you have to do is present a positive case for staying in the UK and people will vote to do so.

    Oh wait now I do understand why you dont want another referendum.

    Because one was held a few years ago, the once in a lifetime referendum. Not only do they cost money, there value is diminished if you have one every couple of years, because you don't like or respect the result. Do you understand now!

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  4. 1 minute ago, puipuitom said:

    No preferences anymore, accept Schengen and €uro + right lane traffic.

    Ha ha that's your dream isn't it. You have no idea of the UK if you think that will ever happen. How about Holland and the others start filling in the budget hole left by the UK. Start buying fish from the UK at least 3 times the price, as you won't be fishing in UK waters. The UK will be a new tax haven for countries and the EU will hate it.

     

    If you ever go to the UK and see the lanes at immigration, the UK and EU lane is always full with EU citizens, the foreign lane is empty. Same in most countries of the EU, so I will take that lane anytime.

     

    Your country has sold its soul to the EU don't tell others what to do. We voted leave and will. Sadly your country didn't have the gonads to do the same.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, nkg said:

     

    Perhaps it illustrates that the UK has a stronger bargaining position than is generally acknowledged. Apparently Germany exports more cars to Britain than to the US and China combined.

     

    It will be interesting to see what the EU offers Britain before the October 31st deadline.

    I can see your point entirely and you make a valid point. I personally don't like the FT for their over bias reporting. I am surprised that article slipped through the net.

  6. 5 minutes ago, dimitriv said:

     

    Isn't this what Brexit is about ?  52% of the population makes a decision that will harm not only themselves but everybody in the UK ?

     

    Only a couple of % of the votes, where the difference was made by people who are standing already with 1 leg in their graves ?

     

     

     

     

    That's what a democratic binary referendum does. there is a winner and loser. You accept the result and move on. Which country are you from, so we can get an understanding of what you think democracy is.

  7. 3 hours ago, bomber said:

    brexit was always going to give us corbyn,the fools couldnt see it and now we have a babboon in charge,he does have charisma but its brains we need,a GE looming and JC will sneak a majority and we will be doomed regardless of brexit,its lose lose lose,win win win for arron banks farage and JRM

    Lets see, as I believe that Corbyn is the one reason why Labour are not in power now. The man is a fool, indecisive and does more harm to Labour than good.

    Wasn't you one of those saying Boris Johnson would never be PM, so your track record isn't very good.

    I do think there will be GE before Christmas and BJ will win with the backing of the brexit party. Just watched Corbyn on Sophie Ridge. He is unconvincing just like in last weeks question time.

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  8. 37 minutes ago, bomber said:

    am afraid,i know farmers and have never hear'd them moan about the Eu once in 50 years

    farmers have been controlled by the Common Agriculture Policy. I remember farms having to be sold because of this.

     

    37 minutes ago, bomber said:

    fishermen i cannot comment on but iam aware fishing HAS to be controlled or there wont be any left to fish,

    Obviously you don't reailse that other EU countries fish far more than the UK does in UK waters, so the idea of controlled fishing as your suggesting, is nonsense.

    37 minutes ago, bomber said:

    again what laws are you referring to?

    The Immigration and migration law for one but there are plenty more.

     

    I know it won't change your mind but this explains a few things.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/25/7-reasons-why-some-europeans-hate-the-e-u/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c649f97a07ae

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  9. 19 minutes ago, bomber said:

    you have avoided the question,i asked how did it affect YOU,if your a farmer/fisherman and feel hard done by please state this,invasion without bullets is fantasy talk iam afraid,i know farmers and have never hear'd them moan about the Eu once in 50 years,fishermen i cannot comment on but iam aware fishing HAS to be controlled or there wont be any left to fish, regardless of kipper packaging ???? again what laws are you referring to? bureaucracy we could all do with out it agree,hows about starting with the HoC,my local council office,my local Nik,doctors,who needs law and order when we have brexit? too easy to blame the EU iam afraid,boris summed you lot up with his packet of kippers,WHAT A WALLY 

    You should read what you wrote.

    "so how did this event make your next 45 years so difficult?"

     

    I have told you. Its all the accumulative events I described.

    The rest of your post... well its you trying to be funny, as usual, which you are not.

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