Pompey50

Hi all, I am very concerned about a friend I have lost contact with, I have not heard from him since December 2016, this is someone I had regular contact with even when he was working at sea.

His Name is Phillip (Phil) Turner. He was often to be found in the bars around Jomtien 

Here are some Photo's of him, if anyone has any information or in fact know him please  message me or ask him to contact me!

 

They should start with it right now.. I agree 100% won't affect me as I am Dutch but would clear away all those bad English tourists.

I doubt this has much backing they can't be that stupid on that island nation, now if they made the law so that they could prosecute sex with underage girls anywhere in the world it would make more sense.

That is already law in the UK. And a number of other country's!

What is the point of having a law that would be impossible to enforce? Are they really going to fly prostitutes from all over the world to the UK to give evidence? And how can they keep track of what is often a cash transaction? A crazy law from a corrupt bunch of politicians, how many of them would be in default of this law?

Cue the choir.

A man has died, he was someone's son, father, Grandfather. Your comment is gross and offensive and just shows what sort of person you are!

There was the suggestion some of them were not real monks with the amount of hair on their heads, also one monk having a soldier in a head lock.

Monks only shave their heads about every 15 days not every day. So it is quite normal to see monks with some hair growth.

I love the country and people of Thailand. But why oh why do they keep shooting themselves in the foot. This is nothing but an embarrassment for the Pattaya police. I expect that when this gets to court it will be thrown out as it should BUT this is Thailand so who knows?

I will leave you with this song (Britain's Christmas No 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8qHXlShfUQ

Ban the exports into the EU. Forget right and wrong as 'Money' flow is the only thing Thais listen to and if thats impacted then and only then will they change there shonky business practices.

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Anybody have a list of that fruit company brands? Anybody know how to do one of those online petitions?

I can not find a list but Finnwach are on the case! They are keeping EU food company's appraised of what is going on. I suspect that there has already been a large decrease in fruit being bought by these company's

Here is a link to an article I found.

http://www.dw.com/en/european-food-companies-call-foul-over-thailand-fruit-company/a-17884637

Talk about shooting themselves in the foot! This will not end well for Thailand! The EU are already looking at Thailand and a few years ago it lost it's developing nation status with the EU and may soon attract import tariffs like most other country's. At that point company's will switch suppliers anyway!

If the Thais do not think the EU, the UK and the rest of the world are not watching what is going on and that there will not be serious consequence for them, then they are mistaken.

I wonder if any of those on Constitution drafting panel have considered that concept of "double jeopardy"? In filthy West, if found "not guilty", that's it, game over, better luck next time Mr. Prosecutor.

Not entirely true. In the US double Jeopardy laws are absolute as guaranteed under the 5th amendment, however a person can be tried by a state and by federal authorities for the same crime. This is the singular exception.

In the UK the double jeopardy laws where changed in the Criminal Justice act of 2003 (in force 2005) It opened certain serious crimes (including murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, rape, armed robbery, and serious drug crimes) to a retrial, regardless of when committed, with two conditions: the retrial must be approved by the Director of Public Prosecutions, and the Court of Appeal must agree to quash the original acquittal due to "new and compelling evidence"

In many other country's around the world, they have similar legislation to the UK.

The UK is in the process of being increasingly "enriched" by the Islamic mob allowed into the country by the Liebour party in the name of "multiculturalism"

I do not envy the Security forces job.

Interesting how you blame a party that has not been in power for nearly 6 years. And check out the immigration statistics pre 97 when they came to power. I can tell you one thing good old MAggie gutted our customs and immigration services! Bit hard to do a good job when you have far to few staff!

This documentary the trip about is even more interesting. You'll hardly recognise Bangkok or Singapore.

Since I first read the book years ago this trip has fascinated me.

It is a tragedy that politically we have screwed up our world so much that this trip in it's entirety from London to Singapore will probably never be made again. At least this, the 'holy grail' of overland routes if you will, is open.

Brilliant! a fascinating view of the world from the 50's!

Drive?

Plane?

I am thinking bicycle - 2 months should be enough, plus a detour into Bangladesh for a week ( best kept cycling secret for those in the know)

Myanmar - Visa needed

Bangladesh- Visa needed

India - Visa needed

Now, what other countries between India and ol Blighty? Which route?

Your options are a bit limited. To the north of course you have a small problem called the Himalayas. Or you could go Pakistan, Iran north to the Iranian/ Turkish boarder then it is pretty much plain sailing, through Turkey, Bulgaria etc.

A neighbour of mine, drove from the UK to Istanbul and back, as a heavy goods driver, up until he retired about 10 years ago. The trip used to take him there and back 2-3 weeks, depending on delays etc. It is something I would love to do, but I think the political situation in some of those country's could make the journey far more dangerous and problomatic in some ways than it would have been in the 1950's

Why would people want to unless they have time to waste, for me I would not have the time to do this so I would rather get there in a matter of hours by plane

For the experience Lee.

To travel what was long considered one of the last 'unassailable' overland routes of the last 100 years or so. There is a feel of 'do it now before it's too late' about this route though before it gets clogged with inter regional commercial traffic/tourist traffic or you'll find your way continually blocked by over loaded trucks on their sides or broken down abandoned tourist buses which weren't fit for the trip in the first place.

The last recorded passage of this route was the Oxford/Cambridge 'Far eastern expedition' trip in the 1950s which was immortalised in Tim Slessor's account of the trip in 'First Overland' and the subsequent, rarely seen BBC film of the trip.

Really interesting. Many thanks for posting this!

For those interested in history here is a really good read

Some of the comments on this thread are truly offensive, I hope the mods close the thread or start getting tough with some of the a'holes making bad taste comments.

Colin was a really nice guy, I did not know him well, but had drinks with him on a number of occasions (he did not drink alcohol as I recall). In 2009 he took myself and my partner out for a meal as a thank you for fixing a mutual friends laptop.

Sad news RIP Colin

So simple really,An electric water jug can stand on a bowl or as mine is,on a steel rack which stands in about an inch of water in a plastic tray.ants do not like water and can not swim so no need to empty and refill every time you use----no ants can get to it.We have a couple of these in the kitchen to protect things like bread and biscuits and sugar container.Been doing this for yrs with no problems. In fact after a while,if the ants(Mot) find it a waste of time they will soon stop coming,but I still keep everything 'floating' in the pond----Dougal

Ants can't swim? Really! In fact about half of species tested can swim! So depending on the species the water trick may not work.

http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/06/video-most-tree-ants-can-swim-their-lives

It is quite simple. Thailand have been warned for years about the bad and in fact hugely damaging fishing practices for years same with the slavery on their boats. This problem has been highlighted for years and despite repeated promises to do something about i,t they have failed to act. So pressure..........yes. Reasonable.......Yes!

As for selling sea food in the middle east. They already have their own markets and suppliers. And their markets are a lot more protected than those of the EU. Additionally a good Muslim will not eat prawns as they are forbidden in the Koran!

The EU is not the only country warning them about the slavery, the US has issued warnings as well. I can see this all coming to a head this yea,r and Thailand could well get downgraded (again) by the US as they have failed to tackle the slavery.

Here is a link to the website of a monastery in the UK http://www.cittaviveka.org you will find links to Dharma talks in English. It is one founded over 30 years ago by disciples of the late Ajahn Chah

The main monastery is in Thailand and they do operate a retreat centre, though it is some distance from Bangkok in Ubon Rachathani http://www.watpahnanachat.org

As others have said if they want to charge you money to pay for anything beyond basics then don't bother with them.

Germany and WW2 knocked Greece back in to the stone age , and put the country in to a tail spin that it did not recover from until the fall of the military Junta in 1974

After Germany surrendered, the conflict continued with the Soviet Union attempting to gain access to the Mediterranean see and the west trying to stop them in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, and Albania, countries with which Greece shares boarders

Some one has to pay for that

aside from the damage to the country caused by Germany, it was never allowed to recover by the cold war conflict.

The Russians should pay. Germany settled the war debt. Russia supported the communists trying to get control and caused almost as much economic damage as the Germans.

And Britain has only just paying back America, America the only County to make money from War.

In fact the war debt the UK owed to the US, was finally paid off on the 31st of December 2006

I'm glad to hear that the "happiness to the people" campaign is alive and kicking.

All the Thai employers, will be over the moon after hearing this.

I'm not against raising the minimum wages but first wait and see how the economy is progressing and then put through populist suggestions.

What can happen is, there will be no enterprises left to pay not only the minimum wages but any wages at all.

In many large industries in Thailand the profit margin is very high. Many business owners are simply not prepared to reduce their own cut to provide a fair wage for the worker. They keep screaming and shouting that their costs are going up and cannot make sales, but the bottom line is they are not prepared to reduce their income for the sake of sales and the work force. When you are taking home say 10 million a month, you would think they could reduce that to say 8 million for the sake of their business and workforce. But no. So many greedy business operators in Thailand.

Spot on!!

A good example is CPALL (owner of 7-Eleven Thailand), they are probably paying their staff 8-9000/month.

Compare that to their 2014 net profit of 20.5 billion baht!!

Yet another thread about the minimum wage. What people (allow me to use the phrase "socialist-minded") like to think is that the poor are oppressed by the wealthy. What I'd like to clarify is that it's really all about supply and demand in a free market economy. When there are ample people willing to work for 300 baht/day, there should not be any policies to mandate a higher wage. Why not? Because economics dictates that this will only cause inflation to rise and the same goods which were previously "difficult to afford" will be become "too expensive" again.

The only way to deal with poverty (in a long term solution) is to increase productivity of workers.....essentially higher education. This will drive minimum wage up naturally due to shorter supply of people willing to work for a pitance.

Perhaps the Japanese will round up all the British and Australian expats in Thailand to work on the railway.

There was about 900 Americans that were prisoners and worked on the death railroad.

While their total numbers were smaller than the other countries, they suffered the highest

percent death rate. So if the Japanese start rounding up expats, they will have to

add in a few Americans to make it like the old days..... And of course have to bring over

a few Koreans to do the beatings to really bring back the old days.

The deaths of allied soldiers on the death railway are well documented. There where 686 American POW's of which 133 died a mortality rate of 19%. There where 30,131 British POW's, 6,904 a death rate of 23%. In my view one death was to many!

This story has resonance for personal reasons. My grandfather served the whole of WW2 in SE Asia. He was in Burma and fell back to India along with the rest of the forces from Rangoon.

In August 1945 he was amongst the first British soldiers to reach Changi Prison. What he saw stayed with him for the rest of his life. He could never forgive the Japanese for what they did. He came back to the UK in late 1945 a very different man to the one that left in 1939. He died in 2005 aged 99. He still suffered with bouts of malaria all those years later. And according to my grandmother he would still wake up in a cold sweat. re-living the terrible memories of the things he saw and endured.

We have to put this into context and remember that this was 70 years ago. though we should never forget what happened the world moves on. There are not many left alive who remember what happened from first had experience. Do we continue to blame the grandchildren of those who carried out these atrocities?

For the Fallen

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning,

We will remember them.

Laurence Binyon 1914

This may be a bit off topic, but it has the same meaning. When I was in primary school, we had history lessons every week, there was nothing

taught about the British Empire, and how they ruled two thirds of the world only 100 years ago.

Of course the Japanese didn't teach certain history in their school. As far as I could see when I was a school teacher here in Thailand, the Thai kids

were not taught history at all, although they were taught geography.

I bet the German kids are not taught about Hitlers atrocities during World War 11.

German kids are taught about the atrocities, When on an exchange visit some years ago we where given a tour of the area wart and all!

This is totally wrong on many levels. Seems that Thailand doesn't care much for history.

Isn't integrity and honour a big thing in Japan? Surely they have the education to remember what happened.

Not really a surprise with the distorted history lessons they get.

Ask a Thai what the Victory Monument commemorates and very few will know. Why it is still there after the land was given back is a mystery.

You seem to be suggesting that Victory monument is to in some way commemorate WW2, forgive me if I am mistaken but just to clarify. The monument was erected in June 1941 to commemorate the Thai victory in the Franco-Thai War, a brief conflict waged against the French colonial authorities in Indo-China, which resulted in Thailand annexing some territories in western Cambodia and northern and southern Laos. These were among the territories which the Kingdom of Siam had been forced to cede to France in 1893 and 1904, and patriotic Thais considered them rightfully to belong to Thailand.

Carken, you will have to learn to take the rough with the smooth here. It would be a mistake to get into it with members who are poking a bit of fun.

On topic- The ages of the two in the latest bunk-up are important. I don't know the specifics of the law, but 16 can definitely be construed as 'under-aged' in this country. This is where your money and possessions would come in- to keep the little fornicator out of jail.

In fact 15 is the legal age of consent amongst Thais. So neither is under-age.

It is lets be honest partly up to your wife but the boy obviously is going through his teen terror years. You could break yourself and your relationship trying to keep him out of trouble and paying for his mistakes. Frankly sounds like he needs a good slap off the girls father. But it takes 2 to tango!

What country is Yoga, The Kama Sutra and Lord Gautama Buddha from?

Just sayin'...

Well interesting point. It is now known pretty definitively that Gautama Buddha came from what is now modern day Nepal. However before anyone jumps in and say's Nooo it was India. Neither existed as country's like today 2600 years ago!