TheGoose

Thanks for the replies. Can you get passport photos done there too as I need to get two for my daughter for her UK passport application ?

Was hoping to go today but the wife has not had her name change document to my family name signed by the head of City Hall up here in Charoen Sin district as he's off sick. Would it be possible for her to get a new passport in my family name without this document ? We have all the other relevant documents including her new ID card which has been updated to show my family name (her married name).

My reply in last yaer topic:

Believe Khon Kaen is closest passport office. Check this web site

http://www.mfa.go.th/web/11.php

Udon Thani has a passport office in a separate building on the City Hall compound, easy to be done and send home by EMS within one week.

Location in Panoramio

Thanks for the reply. Any idea why the MFA website doesn't mention Udon ?

This seems the most relevant forum for my question but apologies if I've go that wrong.

Is it possible to apply for a Thai passport in Udon Thani & if so where ?

I've searched the internet & found recent posts on other forums that said you can apply in Udon Thani but then I looked at the MFA website & there is no mention of Udon Thani on there plus it is not listed as one of the temporary passport offices. My wife said some of her family did passport applications in Udon in April this year but I just wanted to make sure before we head into Udon later today.

Is it possible to apply for a Thai passport in Udon Thani & if so where ?

When I did a google search I found posts that said you could but when I look at the passport section of the MFA website there is no mention of Udon Thani & it doesn't appear in the list of temporary passport offices.

Due to some bureaucratic nightmare with some paperwork I have had to stay 3 days longer than I had anticipated which means I will be 2 days over my 30 day visa limit. Is it still 500 baht a day you get penalised at the airport by immigration before you leave Thailand ?

I am UK citizen who has a Thai wife who has just given birth to our first baby daughter 4 weeks ago. I am currently in the process of completing the C2 application form to apply for a UK passport for my daughter & I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone who has completed this form recently may be able to help me with.

1/ In section 2 under father's details it asks for the date & place of issue of the father's UK passport. Obviously I know the date of issue but what do you enter for the place of issue ? It's been a long time since I applied for my current passport & I don't know where I sent the forms to.

2/ Again in section 2 but under the mother's details it asks for the mother's citizenship at the time of the birth (which is obviously Thai) & her immigration status in the UK. What do I enter for her UK immigration status ?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Does anyone know if there are any rules for section g where you give references ? My reason for asking is that my two live at the same address (my mum & my brother) & I wondered if this was advisable ?

they are not checked ..so put whatever you want .. i put my mother and a friend i have not seen in 10 years

also a play on words but it was accepted ..

e) I support 1 child from my previous relationships (or whatever you have or not)

accepted was

e) I support 1 child from this relationship

so no need to mention others if you do not wish

I just wondered if it was a better idea to use two different addresses ?

Does anyone know if there are any rules for section g where you give references ? My reason for asking is that my two live at the same address (my mum & my brother) & I wondered if this was advisable ?

AFFIRMATION OF FREEDOM TO MARRY

I xxxxx xxxxx holder of British passport No xxxxxxxx issued at xxx on

xx/xx/xxxx expiring on xx/xx/xxxx do solemnly and sincerely affirm that:

a) I am eligible to marry a Thai national according to Thai law.

b )I am of British nationality and I was born on xx/xx/xxxx in xxxxxxxxx

c) My father's name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and my mother's name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

d) I am single and have not previously been married (or divorced, widowed etc)

e) I support 1 child from my previous relationships (or whatever you have or not)

f) My occupation is xxxxx and I have an income of £ xxxxx per month.

g) I propose the following people for reference purposes if it is necessary to verify the

above details.

1. Name: xxxxxxx

Address:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, UK

2. Name: xxxxxxxxx

Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, UK

h) My permanent address is:-

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Thailand

I confirm that all the above is true and correct.

Affirmed at the British Honorary Consulate in Pattaya (or embassy in bangkok)

this ......... day of .......... 20 ....) ………………………………………… (Signed)

Before me:

......................………………………………………………………………..

Just typed mines out similarly, cheers.

I've read you need two copies of both the English & Thai version of the affirmation ?

I just saved the PDF example from the UK Embassy in Bangkok website to my hard drive after viewing it in Adobe Reader. I don't have the full Adobe Acrobat software to update the document so I cut & pasted the wording into a Word document which I then amended, is this approach okay ? I also noticed from the sample there is a g) & a (g), should these be left like this or should the (g) be updated to h) ? Finally, in (g) it says "(in country of nationality)", should this be left as it is or do you replace country of nationality with "(in UK)" or "(UK)" ?

Sorry for the questions but I've read on here of a few people who have had problems when they have went to the embassy for the first time & had to redo them. I just want to ensure it's correct first time & therefore should only require the one visit.

Thanks for the replies.

I see the name change & divorce as being two separate things, ie one is not dependant on the other, although it is normal to change your family name as a result of marriage or divorce. The reason for the court appearance is to be granted a divorce not a change in family name. She could change her name & documents at any time independently of her court appearance could she not ?

My girlfriend is currently married but is going to court on 5 September to get divorced. The divorce shouldn't be a problem & our intention immediately afterwards was to get her documents changed back to her own family name. I've just spoken to her this morning & she said her lawyer has suggested she needs to wait one month to change her name in case anyone has a problem with the divorce. I don't understand this at all so has anyone else heard of this or anything similar ? I would have thought if anyone did have a problem with the divorce they would have to let it be known prior to 5 September.

I am a UK resident who is getting married to my Thai girlfriend in Thailand soon after our first child is born. Early next year I plan to bring my wife & daughter over to the UK to live with me. I hadn't given a prenup much consideration until some friends who have went through the pain of divorce suggested it might be something I should look into. Obviously I don't foresee any problems for us but you just never know so I thought it prudent to at least look into it.

I have done a bit research on the internet & searched through this forum but I do still have some questions I hope some of you may be able to help me with. I know under Thai law they have "Sin Suan Tua" which says that assets & property gained before marriage remain the property of the owner. My girlfriend doesn't have a lot & neither do her family. I have a mortgaged property in the UK (50% mortgage), stocks/shares, a non-contributory final salary pension & some inheritance coming from my parents when they pass away.

1/ Starting with my property would my future wife only be entitled to 50% of the increase in value of my property from the date of our marriage ? (My property is currently worht slightly less than I paid for it due to the current housing slump).

2/ What potential entitlement is there to my pension pot ? (I am currently 44 so nowhere near my pension age yet).

3/ Would she have any claim on my stocks/shares or would again this only be 50% of any gain I make after our date of marriage or 50% of the value of any new stocks/shares I buy after we get married ?

4/ My inheritance from my parents is a 50/50 split of the family home with my brother. Would she have any claim on this ?

5/ I have read that Thai prenuptial agreements are not recognized by law in the United Kingdom but that they will given some "weight" by the courts. I assume this only really ha simplications if we were to divorce in the UK ?

6/ Given all that I've said do you think it would be a good idea to have a prenup & if so is an online company or reputable company in Thailand the best option ?

Thanks for listening, any advice is greatly received.

Got a reply from the Consular section of the UK Embassy that says a visit to MOFA is not required.

As we are unmarried I asked them about the need for a paternity declaration to be completed based on the following information from their website :-

"If you are a British man and your child's mother is foreign you can only apply for a consular birth registration of a child who was born on or after 1 July 2006. If you are an unmarried woman who's had a child abroad and you would like the father's details recorded on the document both you and the father will need to swear statutory paternity declarations in front of a UK solicitor/commissioner for oaths. This is sworn in front of a consular officer if you are resident overseas".

They have said we don't have to complete paternity declarations which surprised me. The only reason I can think why we don't is that the bit I've highlighted in bold only applies to unmarried UK women who have a child abroad, does anyone know if this is the case ?

I have just been through this process so can tell you exactly what is required.

My daughters passport arrived 3 days ago.

You will need your childs birth certificate, your wifes Id card and your marriage certificate. Take them to a licensed translator and get them translated into English.

You will also need your original (british) birth certificate.

2 photos of your baby.

Complete the application form and take to the british embassy in Bangkok.

Pay the fee, submit the documents, then your done.

I was in and out in 30 minutes. Passport arrived approx. 4 weeks later.

I did not go near a ministry of foreign affairs.

Easy

On the Embassy website it says under documents required "copy of parents' passports" but your post seems to suggest these are not required ? Easier if these are not required but if they are do copies suffice or, as with most documents, are the originals required ? The process via Hong Kong takes around 6 weeks & I won't be in Thailand that long so I don't really want to have to send my passport away.

Can I not apply for a UK passport for my child in the UK itself ( I reside here, my girlfriend & baby are in Thailand) ?

Finally do both parents have to be present when applying for a Thai passport for my child or can my girlfriend go on her own ?

I am a UK resident who's Thai girlfriend is due to give birth to our first child shortly. After registering the birth at the amphur & getting a Thai birth certificate I was thinking of heading to Bangkok to sort out a Consular Birth Certificate. Looking at the UK embassy website it states that I need to get certified translations of any non-English documents. I know translations are fairly easy to come by but can these be certified by the translation company themselves or do I need to get them certified at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ?

The amphur route would be much easier and much cheaper.

I am aware of that & I had hoped this would be the route she would choose. She is bitter about the way she has been treated by him & is looking for a "pay off" of sorts which is why she is contemplating the court route. What I am trying to ascertain is given what I've said in my previous 2 posts is it worth going down this route, ie is there anything she can claim for or is she wasting her time & money ?

What money? You say there are no assets to split and Thailand doesn't know alimoney, only child support.

Thats my point, unless she can claim for abandonment & the fact he hasn't provided for her in the 6 years since they split but were still married, then its a waste of money going through the courts, would you agree ?

Thanks again for the replies.

If she can't come to some sort of agreement with her husband re compensation she is contemplating using the courts to petition for divorce. I'm hearing figures of 50,000 - 60,000 baht to go down this route but I can't help thinking this would be a a waste of money ? To give a bit of background they were married in Thailand, lived in the UK for around a year, they split up & she moved back to Thailand where she has been ever since & they haven't seen each other now for around 6 years. There is no property or anything else in Thailand & there are no children. Even if the court did find in her favour is there a reciprocal agreement in place betweeen Thailand & the UK, ie would the judgment be enforceable in the UK & she could get the money the court awarded her ? I've got a feeling this amy not be the case & at worst it wouldn't be recommended that he return to Thailand in case he gets picked up at immigration. I think it might be a case of her being told she has a chance to get money throught the courts therefore getting the person she's dealing with 50,000 or 60,000 baht when in reality its a waste of money as nothing will ever come of it ?

Thanks for the replies.

I have researched all the info & rules around qualifying as a UK national/citizen & our child will be British by birth. I will therefore be applying for both a Thai & UK passport.

The plan is for the birth to take place in Thailand & then move the family over to the UK to live with me sometime next year after we get married.

The longer term plan is for us to get married & for them to move over to live with me in the UK. Do the new settlement rules affect this in anyway & when do they come into effect ?

I don't think the child can be repudiated till after the birth. As said, not untill after the birth can she get a divorce anyway. And right after the birth she can divorce and marry with you. Give the child the last name of the mother, she can change to her maiden name if she doesn't have done that already.

I think your probably correct about repudiation. It's now looking increasingly likely that divorce may be after the birth of the child. You mention that right after the birth she can divorce & marry me but it doesn't appear that this can be done within 310 days if I am reading correctly the special circumstances where the 310 days waiting period can be reduced ? If I am wrong can you point out which of 4 circumstances listed below I could qualify to get married earlier under ?

1/ A child has been born during such period (where period means the period since divorce took place). This is why we are trying to get her husband to travel to Thailand before the baby is born.

2/ The divorced couple remarry (I assume this means both parties to the previous marriage).

3/ There is a certificate showing that the woman is not pregnant (clearly she is !).

4/ There is an order of the court allowing the woman to marry (a possible option ?).

Given that the divorce is now looking more likely to take place after the birth I am going to ask her to change her name back to her maiden name before the birth. I could then give the child her surname & then change it later when we get married. However, even if she changes to her maiden name, is there anything to stop me giving the child my family name when it is born ?

Curious about the abdonment aspect. If the husband responds in writing to a Thai lawyer that he is unable to travel to Thailand and has not been in contact with the wife for over five years one would imagine that the wife could obtain a court agreement to divorce on the grounds of abandonment without the husband being present.

A divorce through the courts would of course be possible given the circumstances but it would take time & money. If she can persuade him to travel before October then it's probably the best solution for everyone involved.

There are 2 main concerns for me :-

1/ How the childs birth is viewed if they are still married then, ie we want the child to take my surname, is there anything to stop this & my surname being shown for the child on the birth certificate ?

2/ We had planned to try & move the family to the UK in the first half of 2013 with us getting married early next year. If the divorce doesn't go through before the birth it appears that we would have to wait 310 days to get married which would take us into the latter part of 2013. I could always try for a visitors visa for her next year if this was the case but there is a serious doubt the UK would grant her one as if her boyfriend & child are here why would she want to return to Thailand at the end of the 6 month stay. I'm assuming I'm reading this correctly of course ?

Thanks for the reply. I hadn't thought about the UK's view on the situation you describe in your last paragraph but if we do try for a visitors visa we are going to have to have a good argument for her return to Thailand at the end of the visit.

I've had a look online at the UKBA website & the pinned topics at the top of this forum but I can't find an answer to my question so I'm hoping someone on here can help. I am a UK national whose Thai girlfriend came to visit me on a UK visitors visa for 7 weeks (arrived 6 April & left when I went on holiday to Thailand on 27 May). She is pregnant with our first child which is due in October so once I've sorted out a UK passport etc for our child I was hoping of bringing my girlfriend back over for another visit on a UK visitors visa in February 2013. Is there any rules about not allowing more than one UK visitors visa for the same person in a 12 month period ? We are going to get married but that will probably not take place until later next year when we will be looking for a settlement visa when my family can come live with me here in the UK.