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On 12/1/2019 at 9:26 AM, essox essox said:
when i go sign in at Jomtien ....HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED FOR TM30
I’m sure that’s true, but, in my case, Jomtien asked for an updated TM30 when I renewed my retirement extension in Apr 2019, again when I applied for a Residency Certificate in Sep 2019, and then again when I did my 90-day Report last week. A friend of mine was asked for a TM30 when he did his 90-day Report last Friday. He did not have one, so his landlady was charged a ฿2000 fine. (They tried to make him pay it, but he refused.) In addition, Jomtien Immigration later contacted his landlady and fined her for all tenants living in her building because none had submitted a TM30. She claimed she had no knowledge of the requirement. They did assist her In setting up an on-line TM30 Reporting Account so that would not happen again though.
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My Thai gf owns the condo. After returning to Thailand in Sep, I took a letter signed by her stating that I live in the condo, a copy of her ID card, a copy of the condo blue book, and a completed TM30 to Jomtien Immigration. Although I was one week late with the submission, the TM30 and supporting documentation were accepted and the bottom portion of the TM30 was stapled in the back of my passport. I did not submit a TM30 for the previous other two entries to the Kingdom in 2019. Nothing was said about that.
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No issues. Fortunately, TM 30 was up to date.
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I did a 90 Day Report in Jomtien today. I haven’t done a report since last February due to leaving and reentering Thailand 3 times during that period. I gave the IO a paper annotated with the dates of each departure and reentry, but she handed it back and said all that info is in the computer. After checking the dates on the computer screen, she opened the TM 30 stapled in my passport and compared it to my last reentry date. I’ve never seen that done before at a 90 Day check-in.
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Initiated a transfer with TransferWise from my U.S. credit union account to my Bangkok Bank account on 2 July. Transfer arrived on 3 July coded as "International Transfer" on my account Internet banking page and "FTT" in my updated passbook. Maybe I was just lucky.
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A previous post on this Forum mentioned the name of the specific letter that Bangkok Bank will issue to account holders showing international (foreign) transfers for the past 12 months in order to provide this to Immigration showing monthly transfers meeting the THB 65,000/month minimum. Can someone please remind me what that letter is called? Thanks in advance.
International Inwards Funds
Transfer Letter / Foreign Inward Remittance
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Kimchibob,
Am I not keeping up? I was under the impression that affidavits from the US Consulate were't being issued. [with income affidavit from the US Embassy, dated 21 Dec 2018,] Did you have to show a Thai bank account with the monthly transfers from the USA? As I've stated before, with worldwide electronic banking, the ability to instantly show an Immigration Officer where your money is deposited, it's source and disposition to an ATM in Thailand, the "requirements" seem frivolous and petty.
The U.S. Embassy stopped issuing income affidavits on 31 Dec 2018. Since I had an income affidavit (valid for 6 months), I did not have to show a Thai bank account with monthly transfers from the US. I’m sure next year I will have to produce some kind of documentation from my Thai bank account to prove transfers of ฿65,000 a month. -
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Went back at 13:15 today and pp was ready with new Retirement Extension stamp; IO took picture; had copy made of new extension stamp (฿3); attached copy to TM8 and other supporting documentation; went to front desk and got queue number for desk no. 2...number called immediately; sat down and handed in TM8, supporting docs, and ฿3800; waited for 10 min and number was called again; collected pp with new Multiple Reentry Permit and exited the building at 13:45. Total processing time was 30 min. Not bad considering that TI is closed on Monday. Cost was ฿1900 for Retirement Extension, ฿3800 for Multiple Reentry Permit, ฿3 for copy, ฿40 for four baht bus rides, ฿200 (estimated) for electricity/paper/ink for home copier/printer, and ฿34 for two Coke Zeroes. Total = ฿5977.
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Water bill and Thai MB License were sufficient for proof of address. I had a copy of the owner’s Tabian Ban, Thai ID Card, and letter stating I lived at the address, but IO did not ask to see them. I also had a copy of 6 years worth of my Thai bank book entries (highlighted) showing ฿65,000+ international transfers monthly. Again, IO did not ask to see any back-up proof to the income affidavit, so the copies stayed in my backpack.
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Notification posted at Chonburi Immigration today.IMG_7517.HEIC
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Arrived at 07:45; doors opened at 08:00; received queue number 803; first number called (801) at 08:30. Using monthly income method with income affidavit from the US Embassy, dated 21 Dec 2018, processing went smoothly. IO did not ask for back-up documentation for the income affidavit. Also included a copy of a TM-30 dated Apr 2018. Address verification provided was Apr water bill and Thai MB driver’s license. All in all, pretty straightforward, out the door at 08:45, and told to come back tomorrow after 14:00 to collect my passport.
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Attended the US Embassy Outreach Program at the Dusit Thani Hotel today in Pattaya. Prior to the program beginning, the Deputy of the American Citizen Services Section provided some remarks on the ongoing issue of income verification. She assured us that Income Affidavit Letters will be honored by Thai Immigration for a period of up to six months after date of issue. Additionally, she announced that they had scheduled a meeting with Jomtien Immigration at 10:30 to discuss the options for income verification after Income Affidavit Letters will no longer be accepted. Somewhat encouraging that the Embassy is at least making an effort to assist its citizens. We shall see what the results are.
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I did a 90 Day Report at the Jomtien office today. Although there is a TM30 stapled in my passport, the officer did not even look at it.
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Ten days in Pattaya!
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Just did 90 day report in Jomtien. In and out in less than 5 minutes. I've never seen so few people there.
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I would think they will still accept cash at the embassy, since that is a secure environment. But, we shall see.
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He sent me a picture of the flyer he was given, but, for some reason, the forum won't allow me to post attachments today.
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A friend of mine went to the US Embassy Outreach today in Pattaya. He was told that, as of 1 Oct, they will no longer accept cash. They will only accept a bank draft from Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn Bank, or SCB, made out to "American Embassy Bangkok" for the exact amount of the fee in Thai baht. As far as I know, this only applies to the Outreach Program and not to fees paid directly at the embassy. I tired to find further information on this on the embassy website, but couldn't find it.
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Update. Went to Immigration (Jomtien) today. In and out in 20 minutes. They accepted utility bill and Thai license as proof of address...no questions asked. Only new requirement is phone number on bottom of TM-7. Pick-up passport tomorrow after 10:00, then apply for multiple re-entry permit.
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Fee is $110 (payable in USD, THB, or credit card) for a 52 page passport.
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Update. Just returned from the Philippines on Monday. Immigration officer had the desk refused to accept the re-entry permit in the old passport. A supervisor was called to the desk and she approved the use of the re-entry permit. All good in the end, but provided for some anxious moments.
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Thanks Joe. Yes, I do live in Pattaya and have not changed addresses. Hopefully they will accept the same documentation that they have in the past. I do have a condo blue book, but only the company name is listed. As far as I know, the only place my name appears is on the company charter.
Good time to abandon the TM 30
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Flew in from the Philippines last night, so went to Immigration (Jomtien) today to file a TM30. Just out of curiosity, I asked the IO if a TM30 is required when returning to a long established address. I got a resounding YES from all 3 ladies at desk 10. So there you have it, this the policy at one office at this point in time. Admittedly, that could change this afternoon, tomorrow, or next week. BTW, most people were paying fines. The average seemed to be about ฿1300.