candyman123

Hi everyone,

I was hoping to receive an update on this subject for returning to Thailand from the UK with only our household goods, please.

I and Thai wife have been living in the UK for nearly two years now and we are both thinking about moving back to Thailand where we lived before.
We are thinking of using a 25ft  or maybe a larger container to ship all our household items (NO CAR)...!
What are the rules for shipping said items back and does the shipping documents need to be in my wife's name?  And if we have to pay money for Tea what is that cost, please and anything else you may consider in giving info on.


Thanks for any update you can provide us. 

22 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

She couldn't have applied for leave to remain in Thailand; you can't apply to remain in the UK if you are not in the UK!

 

Why do you say  "We wouldn't stand a hells chance if she applied in her own country?"

 

Are you saying that she didn't apply for a settlement visa as your spouse because of what you had read posted on the internet by people who had applied and be refused?

 

Are you saying that you made an, inaccurate, assumption on the success rate and so didn't even try to do any proper research to see whether or not your wife and you did meet the requirements? Wouldn't have been difficult to do; a post in the visas and migration to other counties forum here would have got you the answers you need from myself or others.

 

Or are you saying she didn't apply for a settlement visa as your spouse because you knew for certain that you couldn't meet the financial requirement?

 

Even though you could afford $10,000 per term in school fees?

 

If so, you do have my sympathy; my views on this requirement are well known here.

 

However, if that is the case then it seems to me that a better way forward would have been for you to do what many have done before. Move to the UK, find a job paying at least £18,600 p.a. and after 6 months she applies for a settlement visa as your spouse.

 

As you could afford $10,000 per term in school fees for your child you must have had a very well paying job in Thailand, so I'm sure finding such a job in the UK would not have been too difficult for you.

 

However, you decided on this approach instead; so good luck to you. Please let us know how it turns out.

 

 

Yes, I will let everyone know our outcome in due course. You can apply to leave for remain while in the UK while on family visit visa if you want me to add prove of the source I can do this.
As I said I was working not in Thailand but outside of Thailand to achieve the money we were so accustomed to and pay for better Education for our son. But this is my point I was working away from my family and didn't have any family life with them.

I did my research over 2 years before we made the harsh decision on all plans for the move back to UK. it wasn't just weeks of planning it was months.
So I take it then know one will help in a small amount of request for links based on this reply and what other members are saying. OK looks like I have to do this kind of research without the members help, I just thought some members may help me because we help each other when someone is asking for that help, this is what the forum is all about isn't it? Am I wrong in asking for links/sources for my research?

Thanks any guys..!  
 

Hi 7by7,

Though I do agree with you on some matters we have discussed here. This requirement/request I am seeking is just 1% of the appeal process as we have a Bundle made up of over 150 items of using for our case study.
So just asking for links to establish problems we can or could face while living in Thailand. Remember it will only be a small % of what we will use in the appeal courts here.

She arrived here under a family visit visa. why? because I knew that if we tried to go down the route of applying in Thailand for a leave to remain we could be refused and it would be very unlikely that we would get it by all accounts of what I have read and seen friends do. We wouldn't stand a hells chance if she applied in her own country.

Just remember this is only 1% of what I am trying to do in my BUNDLE/SKELETON and it wasn't from my immigration solicitor to ask for this. I am doing this extra stuff for my own arguments of why we want to live in the UK and not in Thailand. the family have to prove we are better off living here in the UK under Human Rights Article 8 appendix EX1 & EX2.

I had many obstacles while I was living in Thailand. 1, working away from my family. 2, having to leave the country every so often. 3, having a 63-page Passport filled up in no time and the headache in renewing it. Feeling how my child's Education was piss poor and paying out loads of money to try and get him the Education I feel he deserves. Let's face it we all know how the Education is in Thailand, don't we?
These are just some of many problems I faced on a daily basis. I would jump at the chance of returning to Thailand if I could stay and live with my family without working away from Thailand in order to have a better life, we all deserve to have this as Human beings.

13 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

I cannot see the Home Office considering the inability to go on holidays as being exceptional circumstances!

 

Likewise your decision to pay $10,000 a term for school fees when much cheaper alternatives are available in Thailand.

 

You don't have to guarantee it; just show that you earned it during the last financial year (or previous two) prior to the application.

 

Also, for both FLR and ILR your wife's income can be used. Your child is at school, so she can easily find a part time job which would surely boost your combined earnings above the minimum.

 

Has she applied for FLR and been refused on financial grounds?

 

 

 

 

My wife cannot work legally while waiting for her appeal, you know this. She would love to start work and earn money here in the UK. that would be great if she could show that while working she isn't relying on public funds. 

This request is only my witness statement as to my own personal hardship of living and having to work away from my wife and child to support them.
We are using the 9.3. A decision to grant leave to remain outside the Immigration Rules on the basis of exceptional circumstances and family life.

Every application gets refused by the Home Office. You then have to go to an appeal court whereby it can be overturned in Tier 1 or Tier 2.

So this is why I am asking for help please, not asking why this, if only this and what are you doing this for. This is 1 Bundle of skeletons of about 150 that we are compelled to do for our appeal. 

So please if you have any links/sources I would like to use them. Thank you for the help in my case.

A number of Thai women/men that were refused leave to remain visas when trying it in Thailand is very high don't quote me on this but I would say 95% of those were refused. When I was living there I would read all the time the problems family faced when trying down that route.

At least living in the UK we can have a better life while trying to keep the whole family together. We can only pray that in 18 months,2 years or however long it takes, my wife will be staying until the final outcome. 

This is mainly about our child's interest than anything we have discussed here. He would be better off living in England than Thailand. Please don't get me wrong here if it was my decision only.... I would have stayed in Thailand and work away to live like a king and pay for our child's Education that isn't good anyway.

Thailand is and still is a great place to live. (IF ONLY)

Wouldn't it be nice if we were recognised as a family unit and stop having being dictated too. 

Hi 7By7,

Yes, we are doing the 10-year route because I am currently self-employed and cannot guarantee the 18.600 per annum. So we are using  Article 8 of the ECHR to apply for FLR or ILR due to "exceptional circumstances" EX.1 of Appendix FM.
The best interests of any child in the UK affected by the decision because he is settled and attending school. and it would be exceptionally hard to make his return to Thailand and study 2 years behind his age group for the catch-up game.
The likely circumstances, the applicant’s partner and/or child would face in the applicant’s country of return. I would have to work away from Thailand like I did before in order to make ends meet. getting 40.000 Baht per month isn't ideal for a living in Thailand. Not everyone has loads of dosh to keep in the bank or spend..!

Anyway, we are going off track here as it's about gathering evidence to support our case.

So asking for information to help with our tribunal study, please. And just to add I have levelled out other routes to challenge the ruling.

I lived in Thailand for over 12 years and married for 10 of those years. yes, we can just live but not have a reasonable way of living or go on holidays. It was also costing $10.000 per term for my child's Education. where as you know being British our Education system is "FREE" :)
  

15 minutes ago, Eff1n2ret said:

If you want to quote a source for Thai immigration legislation this is from their website:-

 

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/doc/temporarystay/policy777-2551_en.pdf

 

As ubonjoe has just pointed out, an income of only 40k Baht per month is required if you are married to a Thai person (Section 2.18 in the document). The criteria for a retirement extension are in Section 2.22. It's very straightforward.

 

If you're looking to construct some sort of "right to family life" case in a UK immigration appeal, I claim no special expertise, but I'd say that ship sailed a long time ago. To try and argue that the rules for a spouse seeking residence in Thailand are more onerous than the qualifications for UK residence would be an uphill task. An income of 40k Baht, say £1k per month to live in Thailand compares very favourably with the minimum £18,600 annual income which you have to show to sponsor a spouse for residence in the UK, and that figure has now been ok'd by the Supreme Court.

 

Compared with the UK Immigration Rules, Thailand's are a model of simplicity. There are sometimes some issues with how individual officers or offices apply their procedures, but in general it's very easy for people to satisfy the requirements of Thai immigration law.

 

There are sometimes some issues with how individual offices or offices apply their proceduers,  This is the kind of problems I am looking for.

Yes, Eff1n2ret this kind of thing is what I am after and more. Thanks.  

Ubonjoe thanks, I did know this friend.

I think I am not explaining myself properly here, I need all the problems we have to face for just living and staying in the country and what we have to do to stay here.
I know about the £400.000 Thai Bht thing. But need sources and links to use as a point of argument on how things are with getting visas and can't stay in Thailand without having to renew visas, having to go out of the country every 90 days as a multiple entry clearance sytem. Things like this that other guys have complained or written on this site. then I can use these as skeleton arguments.

Becuase lets face it we are only still treated as a visitor and can't get residency unless we have shit loads of money or have a business that qualifies us to stay here on more permanent bases to remain in Thailand for an indefinitely unspecified period of time.

We as a married man can't get a full permanent residence unless we show things like money, business, the right papers and having to show we can speak and sing the national anthem in Thai.

Hi Members,
I would just like some links to these kinds of problems that we have faced or still facing with trying to stay here in the country. I don't need any help with the Uk side of things as I am getting all that done and dusted. 

I know about some links to being retired here and what you need to do or qualify, like £800.000 in a Thai bank without touching the money. But being married and having the Non-O visa and married to a Thai woman is proving hard to find here on Thai visa forum site. I did spend about 1hr 30 min with only finding nearly 1 link that can be used as a case source to argue the point of just being a visitor and having to leave the country and doing the visa runs every 90 days or so to renew the visa. 
I am just wanting these sources to put forward to the courts of appeal and use them for my skeleton arguments.

Looking for these is proving hard. I know somewhere on here there is a forum on how a Thai woman married to a Non-Thai man doesn't have the weight or same rights as if a Thai man marries a Non-Thai woman and she can get residency a lot easier then I could.

Still looking but failing miserably...... 

Dear all members,

I need your help in finding very good links/sources to any forum pages on this site or any other sites that relate to problems we, expats face on a weekly, monthly, yearly bases trying to stay in Thailand with your family that does consist of a wife and 1 child.
Example, how difficult it is to keep a family life here, How it is hard to continue to live with your family while being treated as a guest in this country. And like my personal experience when last year I tried to reenter the country and nearly was refused new O visa because I didn't have all the paperwork or the rules have changed without my knowledge, or simply they do different requirements from one Thai consolute to another as different rules apply at one place and not another Thai embassy.

If you can help in replying to my request to use these links/sources of problems with what every expat has faced while living with their family here, that would be great to use for the Home Office back in the UK for my wife to apply for leave to remain on a 10-year route. 
You see I want to show the Home Office just how hard it is to live with your family here in Thailand when making a witness statement for application.

Thanks in advance for any help on this topic. Best Ady. 

Thanks all

Forgot to add, I'm currently back in the UK so finding it hard to get the information i need.

Hi members,

First of all I'm not sure if the topic is in the right place. I do apologize if it isn't.

I need to obtain a DBS check from Thailand as I have just returned to England and the companies i'm applying for work are needing these things, Because i have lived and worked outside the country for many years.

Do the British embassy do these things? or do I go to any police station and have it translated to English?

Your help and support will be appreciated, Thanks.

Thanks for the info AJ Bangkok I'll check them out.

All the best.

Ady.

I've never heard of this service in Thailand and a quick read of the terms and conditions on their web site says its up to you to ensure you have enough internet bandwidth for it to work. Also I thought the monthy fees were super high.

Personally I think you would be better buying an androx box with Kodi. It's a one off cost of 4000 - 6000 baht and then everything is free.

If you you dont know about Kodi and would like a someonr to program everything for you then I would recommend you contact Patrick at Streamtopia ( they are a sponsor of this forum) and he can set you up with a box customized to your TV and movie viewing needs.

I recently purchased a box from him ( cost was a little under 6,000 baht and it is excellent.

I also have boxes that I bought myself at pantip and fortune town for 4-5,000 baht and programmed them myself but the guys at Streamtopia do a much better job then I can so its worth using them. I plan to buy another box from them for my place in Phuket.

And before I forget yes I get all the British TV and sky sports and TV from all over the world. I have TV show and movies and even radio. And it's all free other than the original cost of the box.

Please note no matter what box you get they will all depend on the quality of your internet connection so bear that in mind.

Dear all members, I wanted to buy the Expat Vision box that allows you to watch and view television from the UK. by Sky broadcasting and the internet.

After speaking to a nice lady called Kelly from the Let's Talk conversation. I wanted to know if the box can be used and viewed in different countries, because I do travel a lot for work and sometimes have to stay in that country for One to Two months. the answer I got, yes you can use it, but not England.

NOW FOR MY QUESTIONS AND HOPE TO GET SOME VERY GOOD ANSWERS FROM THE MEMBERS.
I will say "THANKYOU" for any information you provide to me..... in advance and without reservations.

1, Has anybody tried to use their Expat vision box in another country?

2, Has anybody use the box with a Proxy or VPN connection? Have you used the box with Proxy or VPN in Thailand?

3, I'm not a resident in UK but I do go back for only two months of the year and I also travel to three counties in the Middle East during the year, so would want to take the box with me for using while staying in that country. I know it's a legal issue because Sky broadcasting doesn't want people like me to be able to set their box up and get it cheaper in England, But as I have already said I don't have any connection or residency in England.
So my biggest question is folks, If you have one of these can you try and use it by proxy,VPN and tell me if it works or not?

Thanks Guys.

PS. I will not answer to TROLLS, Thailand has many of these here.

Actual location desk where you claim your tax back please?

RIP Brother.

Was he swimming at the time? did he have swimwear on? No, then he could be just walking by the pool with his cup of coffee and slipped, banged his head by the side of the pool, and fell in unconsciously.

But on the other hand...... who done it!!!

Yes your right. You have to physically have and show them the item/items at the airport. Before the six months with a tax vat form from purchese.
I'm getting 1,789 Baht back for my Iphone 6.

how much she get your for ?...

LOL. why do people think of Thailand as a hub for being rip off of by women. If you read the post it's about police and the local legal system and how they give information out on this site.

I'm Okay jack thanks.

THE END.

We all know that solicitors are only there to give advise or have their best interest at heart.

I see on a daily bases that the legal service for information only pretests themselves and the police of Thailand. Some of their information isn't to protect you and your rights in common law...! they only give advise in a such a way as to protect themselves and the local police officer not a constable.

Please if someone want's good information and want's to know their rights, give them the full understanding info and how best to protect against law and abuse from the powers of the corporate companies like the police who love taking on spot finds....... (not the local constable who is there to uphold the law and keep the peace and protect the public).

All I am asking is the law firms to do their duty under the black book of law.

People on a Non O visa will be able to go,enter freely without any hindrance whatsoever. Why because if you are married they cannot refuse you to visit family..... by law this is.

It's about time they are cracking down on border runners with just a single tourist visa. Who knows, maybe we will see better teachers.