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Thanks, much appreciated!

Hi all,

I have lived in Thailand based on retirement for a few years, so I am familiar with most of the rules. My last extension has expired, as I am in Europe for a while, so I will return to Thailand with a brand new Non-Immigrant O (based on retirement again). My question: as for the amount of 800,000 baht that is needed in my Thai bank account, do I go back to the 2 months seasoning period (instead of the 3 months I had with the last few extensions) since I will re-enter with a new Non-Immigrant visum, so the extension process will start all over again?

Many thanks in advance for your advice.

There is no minimum amount of validity remaining on your passport to do the application but if your passport has less than 12 months of validity they will only to issue the extension to the date it expires.

For how long does your passport has to be valid at the time of the (first) extension? Is 13 months enough, or does it have to be, say, 18 months?

Thanks, much appreciated!

If you leave the country and re-enter with a re-entry permit before the due date for 90 day reporting, I presume the day for the 90 day reporting will shift? So, for example, 90 day reporting is due on September 1st (as noted on the slip), you leave Thailand and re-enter on August 1st, will then the first 90 day reporting afterwards be on or around November 1st?

On 22-6-2017 at 11:57 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

Let us know how you get on.

Went alone to immigration this morning, with 3 TM.8 forms, signed, with the necessary passport copies and photos. No questions, I was asked to pay 3,000 baht and offered the choice to either wait or pick them up in the afternoon. As we live 10 minutes away from immigration, I choose for the latter. Just went back and picked up the passports, with re-entry permits in them. 

As my 4 year old would say, it went "easy peacy, lemon squeezy..."

We're on Samui. Did the re-entry last year alone (with wife and kid waiting outside, not showing themselves to the immigration officer), but only this year I read the line about submitting in person. I'll give it a try alone, if they reject we'll go back together, immigration is only a 10 minute bike ride away, so no sweat.


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We need 3 re-entry permits (for myself, my wife and our son) on our Non-Immigrant O retirement extension. Can I go myself with the 3 TM.8 forms and the necessary copies (+ pass photo) to Immigration, or do we have to go all three of us? In other words, does the application for a re-entry permit has to be done in person? I go myself anyway, but I am wondering if I have to bring my wife and son along for the process. 

Thanks in advance!

So, let me share today's Immigration visit with you. We went with our family (my Dutch wife and our son), with all the paperwork done in advance. Signed and copied all papers, being:

- TM.7 (got it last week from Immigration), duly signed, complete with our photos

- Copies of all relevant passport pages

- Bank reference letter + account statement last 6 months + copies bank book

- Rental agreement

- Blue book + ID landlord, both signed by landlord

- Google map of our house location

- Medical certificate of the TIT (250 baht, a 20 minute breeze that was)

- Marriage certificate

- Birth certificate of our son (because he was born here)

Compared with last year, only the landlord's ID was an extra, the idea of which I picked up in this thread (thank you guys). So, here goes... 

Walked in, presented our documents, we were told to come back in 1 hour. Then, I was asked to fill in new TM.7 forms as I apparently used the wrong ones.... I got them last week from Immigration here, but ok, no worries, filled in exactly the same forms one more time. Then I was asked to draw a map of our house location by hand on a white piece of paper. Did that too. And then.. we were asked to present a family picture. That one was really new for me (thought they only did that for the marriage extension visas). So we went out to the shop outside and the guy from the shop made an awesome (yes, really!) picture with his phone. I also asked for a copy for our own use, you can imagine it is hanging on our wall already....

Walked back in and then, quite to our surprise, we told to come back next week. Didn't have to pay today ("you pay next week", they said), but we all have to come back, for another photo I guess. Does anyone of you know if they now only issue the extensions on the due date (which is beginning next week for us)?

Hi, can anyone tell me where to find the Koh Samui local tax office please?

Thanks in advance!

On 2 mei 2017 at 3:04 PM, Amusements said:

Here is what I picked up today and scanned for you:

 

 

All clear and familiar, but what does "copy of your household" mean? (last point nr 9). Or is that the blue book copy? Anyone happen to know if the blue book copy has to be signed off by the landlord?

4 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Just to add:

 

You say you obviously don't have any income in Thailand... Many retirees have bank deposits in Thailand which earn income and where 15% tax is deducted at source. You can reclaim that tax each year between January and March by filing a simple tax return, easy access savings or fixed deposits, the tax can be reclaimed from either/both, up to a maximum income of 300k baht per year (currently). Of course, you need a tax ID to do that hence another good reason to get one. BTW don't waste money on accountants or lawyers just to get the tax ID, it's not that level of activity. The Thai tax people are some of the most friendly and helpful of all the government offices.

Thanks, very helpful! Will check out the local tax office here on Samui. I suppose for filing tax returns (I indeed do have a savings account here), you can go to the local tax office as well?

2 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

In practice only income from outside Thailand that is remitted into the country in the year earned would be subject to local tax - so most seem to draw on savings if not exempt by treaty.  There is no requirement for tax number but it can be used to obtain bank withheld interest for those with larger accounts here.

Just ask a (reputable) local accountant to arrange for a tax number (if I decide to do so) I presume?

To the admins: if this topic should be posted in a different forum, please feel free to move it.

I have a question related to Thai Personal Income Tax. Anyone who is living in Thailand for more then 180 consecutive days, is considered a resident and therefore liable to pay tax from income in Thailand (or other sources), if any. See for instance here: http://www.rd.go.th/publish/6045.0.html

I have a Non-O retirement visa, and I am on extension for quite some time now, therefore I should qualify as a tax resident. Obviously, I don't have any income inside Thailand (hence the Non-O retirement), but I receive money from overseas.

Question: is it obligatory to ask for a personal tax number? If so, where to ask for it?

If not obligatory, I could consider it anyway because I would benefit from having a Thai tax number, as I could use it to show to the tax authorities in my home country and as such I can be exempted from paying certain taxes there, as my home country and Thailand are having a bilateral tax treaty. We have special forms in order to achieve that.

Any advice on this is much appreciated.

Thanks for your clarification!


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What I would like to know: do you need a new certified and legalised marriage certificate with every yearly extension? We are both Dutch and are on retirement extension since 2015. We used the procedure as described above, so we had our marriage certificate legalized by the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and then had it "stamped" by the Thai Embassy in The Netherlands. It was accepted by Immigration just like that. Last year, with the second extension, I arranged for an updated version of the marriage certificate, so went throught the whole legalization process again, which was a bit of a hassle, as we were in Thailand and everything had to be arranged by our accountant. Now, for this year's extension, I was planning to just use the legalized marriage certificate of last year. But, can I just do that? Any concerns here?

Seems I was over-concerned... This morning there was enough water pressure from the government water and the tank refilled. All by itself :)

Thanks for your comments.

Is it possible to 'compromise' or break the floating ball mechanism in the water tank?

Let me explain....

We are on Samui, and are having severe water shortage right now. Government water is off, so the tank is not automatically refilled unfortunately. A few days ago we had our water tank  refilled from our neighbors water well (very friendly neighbors we have...), but I put in a little bit too much. The floating ball (which, when the tank is full, is about horizontal normally) was a bit more 'up', maybe 20 litres too much or so. It was a bit tight, although not too long once we started to use the pump again.

Now my question is: could this 'too much filling' have compromised the floating ball in our tank or somehow ruined the mechanism, or is there nothing to worry about?

(Note: we cannot check if it works, because government water is still off...).

The reason I am asking this is that we are about to leave for a family visit in Europe and we get guests in our house in about 10 days from now, and I don't want to leave them with a tank that will not refill automatically once the government water is up and running again. Otherwise I would just have waited until the water was running again and see what happens...

All your advice will be much appreciated!!

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On 19 augustus 2016 at 9:42 AM, GreasyFingers said:

Have been told the birdman is back, maybe the reason for the regression

Is this true? Can anyone confirm? Did my 90 day report quite recently, no trace of the man (he used to go outside smoking a lot, no such sightings recently...).

Must be very recent if they do this now standard? Was at Immigration Samui beginning of June for retirement extension. They did not ask for a medical certificate then. In fact, it was the quickest extension ever. Within 1 hour we were in and out... Are they asking at random for medical certificates? Because I remember seeing a list of requirements with medical examination listed last year as well, but also then I was not asked for it.

How did you fare re post 2?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Same experience today.

Came in at 10:12.

Handed all the paperwork for me and my family.

It seemed I even forgot to make a few copies of my passport to be attached to the application of my wife and son. The lady went to the back and made the copies on the spot. 8 copies, 100 baht. Not even a very bad rate.

Asked to pay, got a ticket with number and told to wait outside.

36 minutes later, told to come back in, photos were taken.

At 11:02 we were outside again, with our 3 passports and 1 year extension.

Compared to the OP, no record today (well, they needed to handle the paperwork for 3 passports in our case), but last year it would have been a record for sure...