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Thanks. At least now I know I am not the only one. ???? Was that also at Kbank, or was it at another bank?

As expected. ???? I agree with your sentiment of the Thai language education system.

In my pink ID, it shows only my middle initial, not the full middle name. In the work permit, it shows the full middle name, and I also have the full middle name in the citizen ship application. Of course, it is only one long first name with a blank in the middle, but since the computer can handle that, I have no problem. Anyway, I wonder whether the middle initial in the pink ID will cause a problem when I apply for my first light blue ID card... I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. ????

For ID, we often need both the ID card and the tabien baan from Thai customers, for example at customs. That's why I thought the land department might ask for it too.

Very interesting, thanks. Shouldn't be necessary - they are saying that the Thai ID is a fake, or that the office that issued the ID made a mistake, so they need to double-check their colleagues.

I think this was the main reason. Thank you also for your elaborate explanations of scams. This will be useful for some of us.

I am not sure whether this request for your foreign passport despite your Thai ID card was from customs or rather an idea of the UPS staff. They should also have asked for your tabien baan, BTW.

Was that a mandatory interview, or were they just curious? I mean, "how long have you had Thai nationality" - what difference does it make?

Thank you. What is say is good news.

Noted, thanks.

You are a Thai citizen and transfer to an overseas account that is in your own name? If I understand this correctly, that would be great. What do you state as the purpose of transfer?

I don't have anybody here who has an account in my country, and I don't want to transfer to my mother or anybody else. I want to transfer to my own account, and I am certainly not willing to pay Western Union charges. Kbank charges THB 100 for transfer fee, and the full amount in euros without deduction arrives in my account there. ????

I thought so. The software sees the 13-digit number and mistakenly "thinks" that I am Thai. The software people may have never heard of foreigners having 13-digit ID numbers. But now my other question comes up again: How do you trnasfer money home once you have your Thai citizenship?

Great, thanks for the info. Looks like a bug in the Kbank software.

No, I am not sure that this is the new law. I think this is a bug in the Kbank software. That's why I asked for experiences with other banks here.

Do you mean KTB? And I understand you are registered at the bank with your Thai ID or pink ID, not with your foreign passport.

I transferred with the app many times without problems. It started to act up two months ago, but it still worked if I just set relationship to family. Now it does not work at all anymore, just says "you cannot transfer to your own account overseas". So, yes, all is set up for international transfer. Call center only said I cannot transfer because I use my pink ID card and therefore the system thinks I am Thai. I changed it to my passport, and now it works again without problem.

Tell this to the software guys. The software asks for my (sender's) relationship to the recipient, and I have the choice of own, family, friend or business. This is my own account at the overseas bank. A month or two ago it worked when I just chose "family" but they have closed that "loophole" now and actually compare the account names.

Yeah, that's what I want to know from my bank. "Cannot transfer to own account overseas", the error message says. I hope it is just a software bug.

Thanks. So there is no problem.

Does your bank know you are a Thai citizen?

Suddenly I cannot transfer money from my Thai account to my home country account anymore with my bank's software (both website and mobile app) when using "repatriate income of foreign workers" as the purpose of transfer. The error message says "you cannot send money to your own account" or something like that. Apparently, this works for people who use their passport but not for people with pink card and PR. I have now changed my registered ID in the bank's system from the pink card back to my passport, and now it works again. Is it true that PR holders cannot repatriate income anymore (as they told me at the call center), or is that a new software bug at my bank? It only started recently, so if there is a new regulation, I think I would have read about it here.

Here is a banking question: As a foreigner working in Thailand, I can "repatriate earnings", i.e. send (part of) my salary back to my own account in my home country. Once I get Thai citizenship, how would I transfer money out?

It was more than 10 years ago admittedly. However, I don't pay bribes as a matter of principle. Had they not accepted my application even though it was complete and asked for funds without receipt, I would have gone straight to their superior, and up and up. I've done that with other government offices and never paid anything. You have to talk in a polite and friendly tone, use the right vocabulary etc. It helps if you do negotiations for a living, so the accountant might not have been the right person to discuss with them on your behalf, I don't know that. Sorry to hear that you gave up, but maybe you want to reconsider. They can change the regulations for the LTR at any time, and on the other hand, the automatic work permit is of course very nice.

How exactly did the consultant reduce the paperwork for you? Did they request certain documents from your home country for you, or did they contact the accounting department in your company for the documents directly? The latter actually can be done by your secretary if you don't want to do that by yourself. Did they make the photocopies of old passports for you? I really don't get how they could help in any way. Of course they would say it's a lot of headache, otherwise you wouldn't need them. Oh, you don't.