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https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1218231.shtml
 

WHO did not approve it yet but it is already approved in Thailand. Most other vaccins seem to take awhile to get approval, which private hospitals are desperately waiting for to get started with their own purchases. 

http://www.standrewsgreenvalley.com

It is a disgrace in many places around Pattaya how people have to cross the street.

Pattaya beach road, the crossing at walking street, Second Road, Thappraya where it meets Thepprasit and i am sure all of us can think of many many more.

These are our guests, why isn't Pattaya municipality taking much better care of them?

At Ambassador there is a crossover bridge however just about 50 meters up from the main entrance, but hardly anybody uses it. Ambassador security just keeps sending people over that road. Why not close that crossing off completely for people being able to walk and only keep it open and safe to cross for the elderly and less abled.........

Maybe a crowdfunding project to get the dengue mosquito problem solved through an institute like www.oxitec.com could help this moving in Thailand.

Does anybody know a suitable platform besides https://www.sinwattana.com

Thanks for any input !

I seriously do not understand this 'government'

So many things can be done on the (burning) garbage problems, traffic deaths and disease spreading mosquitos.

All it takes is some common sense and a will to protect its people.

There is an institution that can help fight mossies by putting out genetically modified species to prevent them from reproducing themselves as they will only produce unfurtile eggs.

http://www.oxitec.com

Sad to see this beautiful and rich(in resources) country getting nowhere.

There is a very good solution for targeting any kind of mosquito by genetically manipulating them in their reproduction abilities.

http://www.oxitec.com

This institute tampers with the genes after which they are not fertile anymore.

I had forwarded this information more then a year ago to the health ministry but never got any response back.

Rest in piece Theo !

Well corroded steel is very hard to weld, almost impossible. And if you see holes in it then sure it's crap. If corroded parts have flakes come off then also it's no good.

But it's simple though, you paid for new steel so that's what you should get, nothing else and also no galvanised steel if that's not specified.

If i were you then smash the whole carport down and buy a new one. For 140k baht + the demolition you'll feel much better i guess.

It's very hard to find a reliable contractor in Thailand, farang or not. Even the ones who work for hi-so thai deliver crap quality.

Hi Thian,

i am afraid it is worse than that. There is a team of licensed surveyors going through the home inch by inch now. In about a week we expect their report.

Considering the concrete they used i am afraid everything done has to come down and be redone.

Yup, well look at the bright side of it. Your problems will be over once it's done. It all looks crappy.

But you can't compare western quality with what the Thai make/do.

Worst thing that could happen is the whole carport collapsing with an expensive car or person under it. You sure don't want that i guess.

If you can get any money back you will be lucky, if not then you'll have to swallow the loss i guess. But then it would be nice if this whole thing is over ASAP so you can continue with your life.

Yes i am somewhat glad that it has been stopped but unfortunately 5 months and 2 million baht to late.

Even though this is Thailand, I wonder if it is allowed to build structures that can be potentially dangerous to people?

Well corroded steel is very hard to weld, almost impossible. And if you see holes in it then sure it's crap. If corroded parts have flakes come off then also it's no good.

But it's simple though, you paid for new steel so that's what you should get, nothing else and also no galvanised steel if that's not specified.

If i were you then smash the whole carport down and buy a new one. For 140k baht + the demolition you'll feel much better i guess.

It's very hard to find a reliable contractor in Thailand, farang or not. Even the ones who work for hi-so thai deliver crap quality.

Hi Thian,

i am afraid it is worse than that. There is a team of licensed surveyors going through the home inch by inch now. In about a week we expect their report.

Considering the concrete they used i am afraid everything done has to come down and be redone.

Part 2 of pictures

I think you should have paid about 100k less and got new steel.

Still Iam not seeing anything in the pictures to suggest the steel has been reused though.

Hi Don M

i agree with you that it is always difficult to get the real feel of something of pictures.

You should see it with your own eyes and get close to it.

The 1 thing i am really worried about though that if this is 'new' steel what is used steel going to look like in Thailand?

@IMHO and everybody else still interested in this thread.

It has been an exhausting day.

Been up on the ladder through the better part of it. With the camera of course

It was extremely hot so i will not do the long version now. I will try to give you that tomorrow but look what i found today

To me it looks like we are having (part) of our old thai kitchen being sold back to us as the new carport and other new roof extensions

Does the quotation specifically list new steel to be used ?

Goodmorning.

Nope it does not.

It only says new carport and has a pricetag of 141.277 baht.

Thats why i have put up my original post; 'Does anybody here think that is expensive?'

Do you think we should have gotten new steel for 141.277 baht?

Gutted for the OP but at least he's kept his sense of humour throughout the saga.

Good luck mate.

Thanks for the heads up buddy. I really appreciate it !

Take care

@OP, I've just reviewed your photos again. I still can't see any evidence that the steel used on the carport trusses has ever been used before.

Goodmorning IMHO

you are absolutely right. Through pictures it will always difficult to see the real picture here(no pun intended). Everybody interested is still warmly invited to come have a look with his or her own eyes.

Yesterday afternoon i took some time away from this 'nightmare'. Needed some time to clear my head.

Before that i was at the site though. Luckily for me the contractors' subcontractor was not only cutting corners but also sloppy and lazy.

They have left many material hanging and laying around which should have been removed long time ago before the renovation started but they didn't.

I have found a small part of steel roof left from the old thai kitchen on an outside beam of the house.

Now i am of course not capable of matching the DNA here but what i can already see is the beams have been cut with a torch. The same cut we are finding at the steel used in the carport where they put the wooden ends in. Where as the cuts on the steel of the bedroom extension is nice and straight.

So what i will do today is try to match the torched cuts. Yesterday i have bought some waterproof sandpaper.I will take the ladder today armed with my sandpaper and i will try to sand layer for layer at many different spots on the carport steel to see what it will reveal on this beautiful sunday.

It might take a day or so to sort out the pictures but for sure i will update you on my findings.

Have a nice day!

Wait a minute, that steel has been there for years, in a house near the coast, covered in oxide paint that "only lasts 15 minutes" ?

ROFL.

BTW, your last builder wasn't too good either - there doesn't seem to be any attempt to paint over the welds on those battens.

Goodmorning early bird

The home has only been bought in September 2014. The old thai kitchen was put in by the previous owner before. As i recall he had that kitchen build about 7 years ago.

I am no party in the difference of opinion you are having with member orpheus454

My one and only question i have here is does this steel belong on our carport?

Look at this guys/girls.

Like i said before my gut feeling is that the c sections for the roof are used/reclaimed/recycled and this is also the opinion of the people that had a look at it with their own eyes and have construction knowledge.

I am still sorting the 700 pictures that i have and then all of a sudden it hit me looking at pictures of the old thai kitchen that they knocked down.

Please look at the C sections/U beams (whatever you call them) used in that and then please look at the C sections used in carport and extensions(many pictures in previous posts).

They look awful familiar don't they?

If so that would be one of the most clever tricks i have ever seen.

You take some steel at the back of the house put it as new in front of the house and charge top dollar new prices for it.

Damn.... thats chalaat

The roof I mentioned was quoted by SCG for over 300,000 baht...

For how many m2 was that?

SCG offers nice roofing between 1300-2000 per m2, 10 years guaranteed and completely finished. They use all galvanized steel.

The question here was and still is, did we get our moneys worth for the quoted 142k baht.

All non-galvanized steel needs to be costed in oxide paint, otherwise it will corrode. In some of your photos you can see patches where it has not yet been fully covered. These need to be finished properly.

This is just rubbish.

Oxide paint will protect beachside steel for about 15 minutes.

Minimum hot dip galvanised.

OP, you have some seriously sub-standard work there, requiring major re-building.

Yes i am slowly but surely getting more and more aware of that every day.

So far everybody that has been looking at it with their own eyes and have knowledge is positive that it is reclaimed steel.

We will have 3 different independent licensed surveyors assessing the whole situation.

The same style cement as the crumbling doorpost has been used throughout the home. All contractors looking at it are saying ' sorry buddy but we ain't finishing/fixing this'.

Basically everything has to be demolished and to be start over.

Thanks for the input, i really appreciate it.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=306111

This whole roof, steel construction, foil for isolation, roof tiles (tra chang SCG) was just over 100,000 Baht...

I think you are really being robbed by this builder!

Hi Somtam,

i dunno why but your link constantly forwards me to a login page on thaivisa forums. I cannot see the picture you attached.

On our house the concrete has bit of paper and wood in the beams, not fallen down, yet. At least that re bar looks OK only you should not be able to see it, sometimes they used chicken wire!

We now have alot of paper(seems like they are the cementbags) in between connections of beams. Especially those who are connected to the existing home.