dtarasin

There is a great local scene happening in Bkk; a bit hidden from the mainstream which adds to its charm.

Indie, punk, shoegaze, psychedelic, experiemental etc. all original bands who want nothing more than to rock out and have fun with a great crowd.

In the vein you just mentioned; Sangsom Massacre just played at Hemmingway's the other night with Degaruda; both excellent bands.\

Lots of bands play at Fatty's bar and diner on any given Friday or Saturday night, usually no cover charge; check their facebook page. Good show there coming up on April 4th; 4 bands.

Harmonica, Det 5, Overstay and many other places host great independent original bands.

Good luck and support your local scene!!!

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listen: http://degaruda.bandcamp.com

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Thanks! Lots of great stuff coming up in the local scene. If you're into punk with a stab of metal, there's this show happening this Saturday at the infamous Immortal Bar: https://www.facebook.com/events/1425072387737154/

A couple of up and coming farang bands are playing: Demon Sugar (totally kick-ass stoner metal with a mix of 80's metal, but all instrumental!), and Deadtown Trash (garage punk with a twist). Local emo-math band (and recently crowned winners of Hard Rock Rising 2014) Ugoslabier is headlining.

Also that night is Saturday Night Live at Hemmingways, this week featuring local indie favorites Basement Tape, and up and coming brit poppers Triggs and the Longest Day.

Take your pick!

There is a great local scene happening in Bkk; a bit hidden from the mainstream which adds to its charm.

Indie, punk, shoegaze, psychedelic, experiemental etc. all original bands who want nothing more than to rock out and have fun with a great crowd.

In the vein you just mentioned; Sangsom Massacre just played at Hemmingway's the other night with Degaruda; both excellent bands.\

Lots of bands play at Fatty's bar and diner on any given Friday or Saturday night, usually no cover charge; check their facebook page. Good show there coming up on April 4th; 4 bands.

Harmonica, Det 5, Overstay and many other places host great independent original bands.

Good luck and support your local scene!!!

Woo! Someone mentioned my band! Actually, we played with Sangsom Massacre at Rehab RCA. They played the night after at Hemingway's with Plastic Section. I hope y'all don't mind some shameless self promotion

listen: http://degaruda.bandcamp.com

follow: http://facebook.com/degarudamusic

Foreign affairs?

I suppose that given that he PTP are relocating to the North, Bangkok is now classed as foreign soil, or is that Surapong is just Thaksins gimp, and wanted to e in the news?

<deleted> does that even mean? They just condemned attacks on PROTESTERS. How can they be Thaksin's gimp?

Sam, are you suggesting that the upcountry Thai, absent near term payment for the rice, are going to switch sides? I'm probably not the brightest crayon in the box, but if you are saying that I sure don't follow your logic. Could you elucidate?

You assume that it hasn't already happened. In the red heartland (CM, Udon Ubon) only 55% of eligible voters bothered to turn up, and many of those voted NO. So many, that PTP's estimate is that they received only 10 million votes. The electorates that didn't vote aren't likely to increase that by much, and things are unlikely to improve.

So the Why don't the Democrats participate in the election? If what you say is true then vote buying isn't as prevalent as people like to believe and there would've been a good chance for the Democrats to win if they instead spent the millions of baht every day to run the protests to actual campaigning on issues.

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Now some douchebag can come in and blame Yingluck for this in 3....2.....1

In my view a nauseating post concerning the matter.

One can but hope that upon your death no-one will blame the government of the time for the matter where ever you may be or the government may be.

I think you misunderstood my post. I was merely preempting some paranoid conspiracy nut to come in and say the government was behind this, which happens quite a lot around here.

I think the reds and the yellows are having a competition as to who can come up with the most stupid statements and ideas.

Currently running neck and neck I guess?

Sometimes it's really hard telling the two apart. They should come together and form the brown shirts. The color of shit would suit them nicely.

Yeah. Keep dreaming the big dream, dude.

53 parties. 53! And the protesters want to prevent all these from participating jus to get rid of ONE party. How many people support the other 52? If there is ever an election again, these protesters have pretty much guaranteed that their party will never win.

Sickening. Hope someone catches the pricks who did this and set them on fire.

That you guys can resort to criticism or cynacism over this truly illustrates the problem.

This place is turning into a rabid cesspool of mouth - breathers throwing assumptions, accusations, and conspiracy theories at one another and politicizing every little bit of news just to make them feel good that their side is right. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

Here we go again, hasn't Suthep had enough of murdering his own people for some cheap publicity?

Does your brain hurt from all that stretching?

All reports released by ANY ministry (see PTP minister led). Then you can guarantee it is propaganda designed to make the protests look violent.

Strange how none of these reports have credible follow ups, or even credible evidence apart from a few photos released which are simple to stage.

Ah, but if the shoe was on the other foot, and the casualties were protesters, would you be so quick to dismiss it as propaganda as well?

But so many coup/dictatorship apologists here yesterday were saying how this Democrat mob are so peaceful & so much different from the reds in 2010. Only 2 days & they are starting to attack security officers & random civilians. Worse record than the reds, who after 2 days had no incidents of violence. Could we imagine the violence & mayhem if the army were marching towards them with loaded war weapons as happened to the reds on several occasions?

I would say that 99% of them are indeed peaceful regular folks out there showing their support. There will always be an element, and they can be easily planted into any situation.

In total contrast, the redshirts are probably 60% violent and 40% genuine people voicing their opinion with their protest.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Suthep or these protesters either (bunch of self-righteous loudmouths with tunnel vision), but I wish people would stop comparing this mob to the reds in 2010. They're nowhere near as violent. Given the fact that isn't just "two days" as the previouis poster stated, but has been going on for months, the total casualties are in the single digits.

Will this still hold true in the coming weeks? We'll see. But right now, they've been relatively behaved considering the numbers they have.

My dear friends .... gaining advantage is what democracy is all about. In my country (The United States) the votes are also "bought." The votes are bought by making promises in advance, and then paying off the constituency with goodies (business; government contracts; construction projects; reforms) after the election.

Some countries just put the cart in front of the horse. Those who don't support a majority elected government are indirectly begging for fascism.

That is all nice and I understand that. But corruption in America is not as bad as here. Here it is off the scale. That is what Thaksin would like to convinice everyone in the world that demoracy is clean here and that it is elected my the majority. I certainly welcome any party that can govern this nation well, but it must do it with transparency and for the goodness of Thailand. Or else if it is all about the majority and minority have no say, then can it be call demoracy? And is it truly the greatest system in the world? No one that supports election can tell me if the PT or any other govt will contine business as usual or change anything. The PT difinately showed their true color. So can they be trusted with the safety of democracy. Or is democracy is just a tool for them. All you hardcore fundamentalist view about democracy seem to think that election is the only think that democracy is. But honest and ethical governance is also part of democracy. Do you see it here with this govt. That part of democracy broke a long time ago. How to fix it is the big question. This is where the disagreement is.

So can you please stop comparing apple and orange. Or apple and rotten apple. Which ever you like.

Agree that an honest and ethical government is also part of democracy. And if the government is not honest, then the people should be made aware and then vote them out in the next election. What we SHOULDN'T DO is dismantle the entire democratic system and try to stop elections just because the bad guys keep winning. It's time to ask ourselves WHY they keep winning and propose policies and campaign against that. Put it another way, when a corrupt businessman can go on trial and still get away with murder because of his influence, is the right answer to say "Screw the law and justice system! It's time for mob rule!"?

This is because they're not the majority - not that a minority has no rights, but the use of the term "great mass" masks the fact that 5 million or 10 million people are in fact a minority in a country of nearly 70 million. This reflects their insecurity regarding their number, vis-a-vis the rest of the population.

We will see how many reds coming to the Demonstrations...

I fully respect the PDRC's right to boycott the election, but the PDRC has no right to suppress others' right to vote - unless they think they're superior to the rest. It is hoped that they're not too busy blowing whistles or shutting down Bangkok to hear such a simple message and think about their legitimacy or lack thereof.

The right for vote a criminal ...

Pure populism, scribble for the mob...

Typical reaction of a snoutista. Unable to refute the points raised with a reasonable counter arguement, just the usual mindless chant - "the redshirts this", "Thaksin this" and "Thaksin that"!

A "snoutista" sums them up perfectly. They really couldn't give a toss about the wellbeing of Thailand and its people, their soul aim is to get THEIR snouts back in the trough, they've been shut out for far too long. Since they can't win an election due to the utter failure of the Dems to formulate policies that could appeal to all sections of the electorate, overthrowing the government by extra-parliamentary means is the only way they're going to get to gobble up some of the goodies.

And about 50% of Thai want stop the Government.

Then why not take part in elections? If the majority want to stop this government like you say, then surely they can do it democratically.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this put to rest the anti-government protesters claim that the Thaksin regime has infiltrated and corrupted every aspect of the government and legal system? Doesn't this show that the system, while in need of fixing, isn't completely broken beyond repair?

I think there's enough needing fixing to give it a go. A good start would be officials who refuse to forward criminal cases to the courts, minor stuff like perjury and terrorism.

Agreed, but how does dismantling democratic process achieve this? If the court system works, then the legal checks and balances are there, so any illegal actions from the governing party can and should be brought to the courts by the opposition.

Come on , you have t be joking. Perhaps the one and only sensible ruling I have heard in years and you want to declare that checks and balances are in place.

He actually did not say that, but just asking (and is a legit question imho), why opposition (as seen as the court system works) hadn't bring to the court all illegal actions by the governing party?

Thank you. That's exactly what I'm trying to ask. If the court system is not broken, why not use it to bring these guys down instead of trying to dismantle the system?

We should just get everyone who thinks both sides are retarded to drive around with one headlight on and one off.

In response to another poster's question, if Thaksin had sway over the courts he would have been here long ago. The courts - and the laws they enforce - are the one thing that is keeping Thaksin from here - hence the Yingluck administration's failed attempt to have his convictions nullified in the massive blunder of the amnesty bill.

Agreed, but how does dismantling democratic process achieve this? If the court system works, then the legal checks and balances are there, so any illegal actions from the governing party can and should be brought to the courts by the opposition.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this put to rest the anti-government protesters claim that the Thaksin regime has infiltrated and corrupted every aspect of the government and legal system? Doesn't this show that the system, while in need of fixing, isn't completely broken beyond repair?

I think there's enough needing fixing to give it a go. A good start would be officials who refuse to forward criminal cases to the courts, minor stuff like perjury and terrorism.

Agreed, but how does dismantling democratic process achieve this? If the court system works, then the legal checks and balances are there, so any illegal actions from the governing party can and should be brought to the courts by the opposition.