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1 hour ago, rabas said:
Because of SARS2's unusual and unexpected infectivity and mutation rates.
Nothing unusual there:
https://www.livescience.com/does-covid-have-more-varients-than-other-viruses
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11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:No, it was a few isolated instances of a few politicians or government officials slightly overstating the details of the very good benefits that the COVID vaccines were expected to accomplish.
Which, in my view, is a whole lot more acceptable than others in the political realm who publicly promoted unproven and dangerous medications that led to people poisoning themselves thinking that they were taking COVID cures/treatments.
Save your outrage for where it's truly deserved.
It was not just a few. When the vaccine came out you could see hundred of government officials claiming that the vaccine will stop Covid and that we will soon go back to normal life.
For example, here's Fauci on the 10.12.2020 claiming that herd immunity will be reached if 75 to 80% of the population would be vaccinated (at 0:45).
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Then, here's what we learn from Janine Small, president of international markets at Pfizer, on the 10.10.2022 at the European Parliament:
"Pfizer did not know whether its COVID-19 vaccine prevented transmission of the virus before it entered the market in December 2020."
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Then, tell me how could Fauci make this statement about herd immunity in december 2020, since he had absolutely no data about transmission ?
So, TallGuyJohninBKK, if you want to call this "slightly overstating", it's up to you, but I don't share your point of view.
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I agree with your point but it would mean I'll have to smoke it and that's what I'm trying to avoid.
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Hi all,
I'm also trying to find some efficient THC oil but I don't know much about it.
Can someone tell me if 5% is potent enough?
I know a TTM doctor who told me she can provide 5% THC oil on prescription only, it costs 1500 bahts for a 10 ml bottle.
Do you guys think it might be worth the price?
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13 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
There has been quite an increase in Thailand of Covid cases and death recently
Really?
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5 minutes ago, jacko45k said:Yes, I suspect so if one is coughing and sneezing less. But more a factor is whether people are symptomatic at all, and if they are infected, they recover faster. Time of being contagious will very much impact transmission rate. You seem to be making rather poor excuses simply not to believe... if your mind is already fixed, why even discuss?
Well, I'm asking questions and I'm always ready to change my mind if I'm proven wrong.
For your pleasure, here are some more "poor excuses simply not to believe":
1. Pfizer has been condemned (many times) in the past for malpractrice:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2875889/
2. Data integrity of Pfizer vaccine trial has been questionned in the most reliable publications:
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635
This doesn't prove in any way that the Pfizer vaccine against Covid is useless or dangerous, but if some people had lied to you in the past, would you believe what they say without asking questions?
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Thank you BKK Brian,
I saw that one, but it's not very relevant as you said.
It would be interesting to have datas for Omicron.
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17 hours ago, jacko45k said:
If one is infected and has been vaccinated, they have less severe symptoms (if any), and recover more quickly, and are thus contagious for less time. You have to consider a bigger picture than one on one!
Well, I would be glad to agree with that, if you could answer these questions:
Are less severe symptoms associated with lower transmission rate?
Could you show me a paper that shows a quicker recovery in vaccinated people? (I couldn't find any)
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17 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:
Everything That Pfizer individual said was taken out of context to suit a specific agenda by the individuals that posted what your again regurgitating...look again...
Excuse me ThailandRyan but I don't understand what you're talking about.
I just pointed out that Pfizer vaccine has not been tested on transmission before its release.
It's just a fact and according to the fact checkers, it's completly normal.
Did I write somewhere that this is a scandal and that people shouldn't get vaccinated because of it?
Look again.
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41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Now check all the studies listed in this article:
Fact Check-Preventing transmission never required for COVID vaccines’ initial approval; Pfizer vax did reduce transmission of early variants
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pfizer-vaccine-transmission-idUSL1N31F20E
This article is saying that:
1. The vaccine hasn't been tested for its effect on transmission before its release. I think we can agree on this first point.
2. Studies have shown its effectiveness on the earlier variants of the virus. I'm glad to hear that but we're discussing the necessity of getting vaccinated against the actual variants.
3. The third part of the article discusses the effectiveness of the vaccine on the transmission of the more recent variant Omicron. That's what we want to know.
It says : "vaccinated people who experience an Omicron breakthrough infection still have lower odds of passing the virus to their contacts" and quote this preprint as a reference:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.08.22278547v6
In this preprint, you can find these numbers : "we estimate that unvaccinated Omicron cases had a 36% (95% confidence interval (CI): 31-42%) risk of transmitting infection to close contacts, as compared to 28% (25-31%) risk among vaccinated cases."
So basically this article is saying that vaccination reduces the risk of Omicron transmission by 8%.
Before we continue this fascinating conversation (if you're willing to), would you please tell me if I got something wrong?
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13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
No its not fact as it also references media articles and pre published studies that have not been peer reviewed. Of the one I did look at that was published in Lancet it clearly states that viral loads on vaccinated are reduced so not as infectious to other people although they can still pass it on.
" although they can still pass it on" doesn't that mean that the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission?
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59 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:
How does being vaccinated reduce the risk to others, is to me, such an absurd question that highlights just how far down the rabbit hole some have tumbled.
How on earth have we reached a point where facts and truth and science are so wilfully disregarded in favour of prejudice, self interest and delusion.
Those who proudly proclaim ”I do my own research” and shout with all their might “fake news” may very well bring about the end of democracy if not humanity itself.
Poor white Americans protesting against expanding healthcare….????
Prejudice?
1. The president of international markets at Pfizer saying at the European Parlement that Covid-19 vaccine has not been tested for its impact on transmission prior to its release is a fact.
2. The studies that didn't show any efficacity on transmission have been published in the most prestigious medical and scientific journals:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1473309921006484
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2109072
Or maybe these top scientists who are questionning the efficacity of the covid vaccine on transmission, and who are published in the most renowned journals are just guided by "prejudice, self interest and delusion"?
I would be glad to read your answer to that, MrMojoRisin.
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38 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
You have labeled this in a false and misleading manner. It is not a study, far from it, its correspondence. Its a letter to the editor and that is all.
Ok, my bad, I rephrase it:
This letter to the editor published in The Lancet website includes a list of studies that doesn't show any efficacity on reducing transmission.
Now could you give me an answer on this fact ?
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12 minutes ago, sandyf said:
If the statement was beyond your comprehension, not a lot to be said.
Yes, I'm probably too stupid to understand the complexity of your reasoning. Let me try again:
When you say "one of the precautions that can be taken to reduce the risk to yourself and others." doesn't it imply that the vaccine can reduce the risk to others?
English is not my first language, so I might have misunderstood...
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22 hours ago, sandyf said:Irrelevant, if you die your dead.
No one has ever said vaccination will prevent you dying, it is only one of the precautions that can be taken to reduce the risk to yourself and others.
Prevention has always been better than cure.
Hello sandyf,
Could you be please tell us how being vaccinated would reduce the risk for others since it doesn't prevent transmission?
Here are the facts:
1. The vaccine wasn't tested for its impact on transmission prior to its release.
"On 11 October, Dutch MEP Rob Roos tweeted a video clip from part of a Covid hearing at the European Parliament the previous day where he asked Janine Small, president of international markets at Pfizer, whether its Covid-19 vaccine was tested for its impact on transmission prior to its release.
Ms Small confirmed it was not tested in that way before release."
Source : https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-pfizer-transmission-test/
2. Further studies could'nt show any efficacity on reducing transmisson.
"the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people."
Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00768-4/fulltext
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21 hours ago, webfact said:
Most of those falling sick have not been vaxxed or who have only had a couple of shots
So how many shots should I get if I want to be safe? 3, 4, 5?
Please be precise in your answer because it's a matter of life and death.
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Thank you, Wuvu2, this is all I wanted to know...
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On 9/23/2022 at 6:26 PM, philthebook said:
Received this one today, very quick delivery via EMS, ordered Tuesday night, received Friday afternoon to Koh Samui)
Looks exactly like the photos they advertised, nice smell, good clean smoke, nice head high, good for daytime and evening. Will order again, prefer it to the Green Crack.
(Members, please review what you have ordered so we can all help each other and small business that deserve the customers if they are good suppliers)
I also ordered 10g from the same seller and I hardly feel anything when I smoke it.
It shows how difficult it is to review weed because the effects can vary a lot from one person to another.
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Does anyone know if there are other countries where people don't want to give up the mask?
Just curious.
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Bankruptcies and suicides are skyrocketing and he is concerned about fake news...
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Thanks for your quick answer, Ubon.
Does anybody know if it's doable in Hua HIn Immigration?
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Hi all,
I've read on this forum that if you apply for your first one year extension based on marriage you don't necessarily have to show 400k in your bank account.
You can instead show proof of (at least) two monthly transfers into your Thai bank of 40k each.
Can someone confirm it's correct?
And if it's correct, can I show my bank book as a proof?
Is there anyone who used that method in Hua Hin immigration and did they accept it?
Thanks
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Yes, it's a very fancy certificate, indeed ????
Thanks again
Is there a way to delete my account and my posts?
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