girlx

thanks

i finally got it to work on port 26 by deleting and re-setting up my email account in Outlook

i thought of that but someone told me pai was just as crazy?

i did call TOT but none of their suggestions (alternate port #s and SMTP addresses) helped

(p.s. is that what you mean?)

you could go to the central Duang Tawan Hotel early in the morning and get a day pass in the health club and spend all day swimming, using the gym, reading in the sun, watching TV in the lounge and eating on the terrace or in different restaurants. You don't have to get wet at all.

that sounds good, thanks!

p.s. tried using the smtp outgoing address(es) for TOT as well, no cigar...

against my better judgement i am in chiang mai for songkran. i have done many songkrans over the years- in isaan, pattaya, koh phangan, and twice on khao san road in bangkok. this is my first chiang mai one. to be honest, i love it but only for ONE day, not 5. i don't like being wet, and i am trying not to drink too much and take care of my health lately since i have been getting sick a lot. so not to be a party pooper but is it at all possible to avoid it here? is the only way going to be hiding out in my room all day? are there certain hours that are generally safe to go out and not get so drenched? if my boyfriend wasn't here i would have gone to koh phangan again this year but i am kinda stuck as he needs to work that week and i want to be with him.

I am in Chiang Mai now and the place I am staying uses TOT for their internet. I can not send outgoing mails from my domain via Outlook, because apparently port 25 is blocked. I have tried every other port number listed here and none of them work. Can anyone help me?

well, i grew up in a club in boulder- i think times have changed a lot since, it's gotten a lot yuppified since i left, i don't expect it to be as fun as it once was. but still, at least you can find art and live music and experimental DJs and the like, it's not just people standing around getting drunk and checking for accessories.

i guess i compare everything to NY, which is probably not fair. but for a "world class" city, bangkok has little to offer, i think.

have you had the experience of having a partner earning a much lower wage? how does this work out with the farang female as high wage-earning and thai/asian boyfriend the low earner (ive seen it many time with male farang friends but rarely with women).

i've dated thai guys who earned a lot less than me. they also worked a lot more hours. i didn't care much about the class differences but the income differences really did create an imbalance in the relationship, which was a hurdle i was never really able to get over. the problem was that i often wanted to eat at more expensive places, take trips to various places, go out to clubs etc. and they couldn't afford to do any of those things. quite often i would pay just so we both could go and enjoy our time together, but eventually the guy started to resent the fact that i paid so often (it's sort of an affront to the male ego) and i started to get paranoid as to whether or not he wanted me for my financial worth more than anything else (doesn't help to read so many negative stories on thai visa). i would end up doing the expensive things without them, and then there was always that divide between us... i would still date another guy who was of lower economic status in the future, but i am not sure it would work out in the long term. i found it to be quite a big issue.

hmm i know your actual credit is valid for a year or whatever, but i remember reading once that if you didn't use your phone in a certain time period the sim expires. i will call AIS when they open in the morning and find out for sure.

i am heading back to the States for 3 months (yick), and am wondering, am I gonna lose my phone number by being gone so long? it's a pre-paid sim with AIS. is there some way to prevent it from expiring?

i found that the best way was to visit the United Airlines office in Bangkok- they got me the best deal, i could pay with my credit card with the Thai billing address, and she even worked it out so i got window seats the whole way! i ended up just getting the BKK-DEN-BKK ticket for around 38000b- the cheapest ticket i have had going back to the states in years!

just curious F1 (nosey maybe)... are you in another relationship now?

Libel's a strange beast and there are many ways someone can inadvertently fall foul of it. You can still libel someone even if they're not named - for example 'a balding 70s glam rock star was arrested in Cambodia today' - the key is usually can the person be identified.

is that right? hrmm. as a writer i worry about this. i have taken to using only first initials when i talk about someone, but are the laws really such that they can get you on inference alone???

i totally agree with you markwolfe but i learned myself the hard way in KPG that morals don't mean squat and by speaking out you take your life in your hands... so you have to be smart and protect yourself if you are going to go about trying to change things in a culture with totally different playing rules. it's too bad that becki wasn't able to do that. he is brave, but it is also a predictable response in KPG. he probably didn't take the threats as seriously as he should have.

I think this story will make international news

i kind of doubt that, and even if it does nothing will be done

... and have the two thai men suffered no consequences then?

som nam na i guess... but also how despicable are the thais who did this.... par for the course in thailand sure, but still disgusting. if i were mr. beckman i would have waited until i left the island to wield my power.

nah... submaniac has a (hot) girlfriend

with all due respect SBK, i am surprised you would not agree that Thais are blatantly and virulently racist against the Burmese, especially where you live on KPG! it's quite shocking how they are treated in fact.

yeah- it doesn't matter what i think, i am not sure i represent the majority of farang women anyway- if i did i would have married the first nice guy i met and be shacked up in some suburb with a bunch of kids by now. a relationship is not the point of my existence, i prefer to be single and free and meet lots of different people. any guy who tied me down would have to be something pretty special, and i don't mean just in the looks department. so- while there are probably lots of nice, decent looking men hiding somewhere in BKK, they most likely aren't going to pique my interest anyway. i do my thing and someday if someone falls into step beside me, cool. my farang female friends are not necessarily of the same opinion.

to elaborate on the NY vs. BKK thing... NY is a city that attracts the best of the best people. people with talent and ambition are attracted to that city. people with big ideas, who don't tend to only live up to the status quo. and a lot of them take very good care of themselves and their presentation as well. BKK is a city that attracts a lot of sex tourists (anyone disagree with that?), and there is not much here to attract ambitious or talented people- they go to places like hong kong and japan. so the majority of guys that i meet here are either sex tourists masquerading as english teachers, models and actors of little substance who talk about how much ass they can get, shaven-headed lager louts who spend most of their time at the pub, nice older family men with their families, students (who are usually quite young), backpackers who are passing through, and nice guys who love this country and just hang around as long as they can (most of whom are better friendship material). none of the above would be ideal for a long term relationship for most girls. and most of the above are not looking for one anyway, there is an endless supply of people to play around with here. sure, there are other decent prospects around perhaps, and it all comes down to your individual connection with someone you meet. but pickings are slim here overall.

(p.s. submaniac, silly, you always misread me... i am not down on relationships! in fact i am having a very fun one at the moment!)

You want lots of info from TV members but DON'T want to meet them and think we are ?????? I don't know.... but T I T.

what info do i want? and did you miss the part where i said i went to lots of meet ups???

There are some people, and I am not criticizing here, who come here but have very low interpersonal skills and can't get out and mingle, so a woman in this situation would have a much harder time making a good connection.

that's not me... i have mingled... just haven't found anyone i liked for a relationship. like i said, it's quite different in places like NY. but you guys not being women might find it hard to understand how unappealing the majority of the men who come to thailand are. not all of them, but a lot of them.

that's why i said "in general"

That's a silly comment, the Thai sit around whisky joints are so much better.

are you being sarcastic? i have nothing against thai style nightlife, but surely they can find something more interesting and stimulating to do on occasion other than standing around a table with their whiskey set?

was this inspired by the thread that was just closed as a possible libel threat? i am curious as well.