Chopperboy

The reason for prostate enlargement as men get older is that their testosterone gets converted increasingly into both DHT(dihydrotestosterone)and Estrogen. By the time a man gets to 54 years he has more estrogen in his body than a woman - hence the "man boobs". The herb Saw Palmetto blocks the T-DHT conversion and chrysin blocks the T-E conversion. Saw Plametto is usually available mixed with other natural ingredients to help support prostate and urinary function. Chrysin is not very absorbable and needs to be taken in the 3g+ per day range. It has the side benefit of having some anti-viral properties. Prevention is much better than cure!

Speaking to the working boys then and now who knew David they speak highly of him, describing him as very likeable, kind and "good hearted" - not a description reserved for their treatment during the investigation. That not withstanding, their resentment and disgust is directed squarely at the Akha boy.

Another thing that should be pointed out is that Thai Hilltribes can and do work. Depending on their ID they apply for a work permit, the work permit application is much simpler than for a ferang or immigrant. My understanding, from friends at the time, was that David encouraged them to find work and even found one a job in a motorcycle repair shop. The murderer clearly has psychiatric problems, and rather than sully David's memory, that should be where its left.

ENDURE seems to be more on track than GERIATRICKID. Helping someone down and out doesn't make one a pervert or a criminal. In fact, such behavior as supposed by Geriatric isn't even illegal here, but murder is... Even with the presumption of some evil doing, there is no balance to this story.

I was unaware that taking drug addicted destitute males for the purposes of sexual activity was considered helping someone down and out. In the world I come from, such assistance of provided by way of a meal or a willingness to listen. There are multiple foreign organizations in Thailand that provide education, health services and skills training. That is what helping the down and out is.

Your position is an attempt to excuse some people who exploit the poor and disadvantaged. I also wish to remind you that the characteristics of the sex trade involving hill tribes people is quite different than that which one sees in Pattaya or on Phuket.

The problem that most of the money boys have in Chiangmai is finding a customer!

This last year many have given up and gone back to "real" jobs, mainly in construction because they need a regular income. Its also wrong to assume they're impoverished, there's hardly one without a motorcycle or a touch phone! Most are

Shan not hill tribe, and don't go around stealing, murdering or carrying psychological baggage over their (hard to find)customers. The perception, on this forum, that David was in some way an exploiter is very far from reality.

Expect to see more of this - the problem is the new passport scheme.

It gives Burmesse workers a 2 year visa - something many ferang would be happy with!

The visa is meant to be linked to a work permit, but they haven't been issued. So workers feel that once they get the 2 year visa in their passport they can go and work wherever they like. The problem comes if the company they were working for lent them the 6000 Baht to make the visa in the first place. They may want to hold the passport until thats paid off, while the workers may want to get the passport and move. Then there is the repatriation fund which employers are meant to pay 400Baht per worker per month into. It's intended to pay for them to be "repatriated" after the 2 year visa is up. So the owner won't want to pay for it if the worker has already left. Answers are thin on the ground, know one knows how the scheme will pan out. If workers start moving around and wages rise, expect Thailand to get more expensive, after all one of the reasons its still cheap, is cheap labour.

Old men marry young wives in a country with a long tradition of marriage for money and without an effective legal system. Any man who exposes himself to this risk is sitting on a ticking bomb.

Well said..

A lot of well justified anti-marriage sentiment on this forum..

Indeed, why anyone would choose to marry a Thai woman is totally beyond me. Even when married, the man has virtually NO rights as we would associate with marriage in any developed western country.

My advice to ferang staying here is - keep a safe distance from the locals.

If you want a partner look for a non-Thai national. A Shan would be a much better choice.

Well it would seem a private citizen came to his aid.

Here in Chiang Mia the British consulate is next to useless also. I personally know of two cases where a British citizen needed help and was turned away. Thankfully a Christian organization helped them out.

I think thats being a little harsh - he's good at organising Hi-So parties...

Ahhh..... the foot shooting season is still open, I see.

I always think they're gona run out of bullets - but they never seem to!

I agree with Kat, In the case of the music teacher a certain Shan came very close to being fitted for the murder.

The Shan are NOT a hilltribe but are a RACE. The Shan state in Burma is named after them and they traditionally inhabit towns and cities like the capital Taunggyyi. Knowing the Shan lads he went with, I doubt any of them would have done it, and I doubt any of them can drive a car either!

Tai people in the region have been given a very bad impression of farangs over the centuries.

The Brits took neighbouring Burma and Malaya, and the French took neighbouring Laos and Cambodia.

The Brits forced themselves upom Siam with the Bowring Treaty.

Their underlying view of farangs is:"Farang's are aggressive and we are not, and so we are vulnerable to them."

We farangs really do have to accept that the praiseworthy view of our nations, with which we were brainwashed in our childhood, is not held by the people of this region.

And we should not be surprised that those of the Tai people who are now living within the nation state of Thailand don't want us here.

The Shan people (Tai Yai) are not zenophobic to ferangs, the brits used to run their country and most think they would have been better off if they still did!

So much for investment in Thailand, I know major players already planning the pull out.

The people making up these laws need to put down their crack pipes.

It's beginning to feel more and more like Burma everyday.

As a friend of mine said "The difference between the Thais and Burmese is that the Burmese don't hate us"

The bottom line is, why would anyone invest anywhere if they can't control what happens with their money?

The answer is - they wouldn't.

I disagree, a lot of Ferangs like their Thai wives to control all the money!

If you have staff you can get them to do the signing for you. Just sign the form and authorization for them to do it.

Anybody here remember when Imelda Marcos moved her shoe collection and husband to Hawaii? Same same.

Well she lives in penthouse in Manila now! Photo taken by a friend of mine, at her Chinese New Year party earlier this year.

I don?t think they needed to be told to smile. My young nephew excitedly phoned home saying he felt like a movie star from all the people giving roses and taking photos with him.

Those Thai army boys look as scary as a fluffy lamb!

I see Malaysia is giving 10 year visas as part of its "Malaysia My Second Home" scheme. They also allow foreign ownership of houses as part of it. Applicants just need to deposit equivalent 3M baht and can use upto 2.4Mb to legally buy a house. OK Malaysia doesn't quite have the straight bar scene that some are here for, but there's still plenty going on.

I see Malaysia is giving 10 year visas as part of its "Malaysia My Second Home" scheme. They also allow foreign ownership of houses as part of it. Applicants just need to deposit equivalent 3M baht and can use upto 2.4Mb to legally buy a house. OK Malaysia doesn't quite have the straight bar scene that some are here for, but under the surface there is plenty going on.

What about the increase for not signing on 90 days for those with a visa? Up from seemingly zero last year to 500Baht per day. Its not easy to keep track of this date as it doesn't seem as important as a visa date and being in business and often traveling, the date is constantly being reset - until oops have I been here for 90 days?

Another victim.

Foreign people should know that Thai woman and man have something to loose ? Like MONEY!? Thai woman and man can be very aggressive. If a man or woman has the feeling that they have a good man or woman who take care about them and their family, then they would do anything.

It is not the first time and it would be not the last time!

If you have a relation and you have too many troubles, FINISH IT. Don?t wait till YOU maybe not wake up anymore. If you have investments then play first the game and move or throw her /him out of your house and inform the police.

Don?t forget that the family is normally more important then you?ll ever be.

Good luck for all Thai lovers!

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Better to have a Thai man then - they won't knife you for sleeping with someone else - to busy doing it themselves!

I've heard rumors that over 60 westerners dying monthly from Viagra. The company still swears it is safe and approved by the FDA.

Yeh and Pfizer also said that Vioxx was safe with FDA approval. That has just killed an estimated 88,000 - 139,000 people!!

Better to take the natural alternative CHRYSIN. One of the reasons for sexual disfunction is that as we get older testosterone gets converted to Estrogen. By the time a man gets to 54 on average he has a higher level than a woman of 59!

CHRYSIN (a compound from the passion flower plant) blocks that conversion. Restoring sexual function, improving cognative decline and helps the heart. It also has a natural anti-anxiety effect (comparable to a diazepam) and anti-viral properties.

Its unpatentable, so its not interesting for big pharma to be selling it.

Its available on the web, try the non-profit organisation www.LEF.org