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You can buy a temporary (30 days) GSM-Sim Card anywhere in Yangon and also in other cities like Mandalay, Mawlamyine, Myitkyina, etc. Basically any decent town will have mobile phone shops selling these cards.

Name of this Sim-Card is: "One-Time GSM Sim-Card 20 FEC". Most of the phone shops sell them for 19.000 Kyats. Maybe you can negotiate paying 20 USD too (which would be less)

These Sim-Cards work everywhere in Myanmar and allow you to make international and local calls and also local texts.

The per minute prices for calls are pretty high though so you wont last very long with your 20 USD credit.

Myanmese=Burmese all the same.

I am a Myanmese myself but now converted to another citizen. You'r the arrogant to think nobody want to stay in another country where everything is better then in their own country. In another country, you can work as a professional and can own your own car, house,etc. Ask yourself,even Thai girls, why they want to marry farang? Thailand is far better then Myanmar.

Probably you don't see many in Europe but you can find plenty in english speaking countries.

You should be ashamed of yourself to have such a condescending attitute towards your own country. Its simply stupid to think that everybody in Myanmar wants to live in Europe or the US. The majority of Myanmar people who work oversees are unhappy and want to return quickly after they have earned some money. Apparently not everything is that great outside Myanmar. How incredibly naive to think that "everything is better outside Myanmar".

The real situation for most Myanmar people working abroad is very depressing. Most work in low-income jobs (ie maids, cleaning woman, etc) or even as prostitutes. Do you think that is a satisfying life? To be away from home and your family just to be at the bottom of another society and working for a salary that is barely better then at home??

The percentage of Myanmar people who work abroad and later life abroad permanently while making good money is very slim. The percentage of those that later can buy a house and car is even smaller.

And regarding owning your own car and house. Why cant you do that in Myanmar? If you are poor in Myanmar you will also be poor in Europe or the US. Its really that simple unfortunately. How do you think you get from poorly educated life in Myanmar to rich life in the Europe or the US? How do you think uneducated laborers are paid in the West?

The only time I have ever heard anyone using Myanmaese was some western news report. Never heard anybody in Myanmar use the term "Myanmaese". Are you sure you are Myanmar yourself or are you just talking out of your ass? And if you are really Myanmar then why the hell are you using these fake terms that are made up by western news reports?

Whether the person can adapt to another environment is totally based on it owns. There are a lot of Myanmese living in Germany,US, and almost all over the world right now. My friend,girls, are married to German and they are staying in German and have babies, don't see any problem with them. One thing for sure no Myanmese want to stay in Myanmar unless they have money.

1. Who or What are Myanmese?

2. How do you come to the conclusion that nobody (unless they have money) wants to stay in Myanmar? You are extremly condescending and arrogant if you think that everyone wants to live in Europe or the US.

3. There are extremly few Myanmar people living in Europe.

the OP is a German and has the advantage that German law recognises all marriages which are legal in the country where the marriage ceremony is conducted. if he could manage to take his Kachin girl to India any religious ceremony Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Sikh will do. the only paperwork required are the IDs of the couple and verbal assurances that either party is free to marry according to their home country's law.

next step is to take a hand written piece of paper from the Pundit-Ji, Imam, Mullah, Bhai or Priest to the next German diplomatic mission in India, have the marriage for a small fee registered and get a receipt "marriage registered in ledger 2012, # 723, fees paid € 12.50".

sorry, only now i realised that the OP is aware of specific German laws. however, the Myanmar version will be most probably rejected by the embassy in case Myanmar law does not recognise a religious marriage.

"Evidence of existing marriage depending on personal circumstances, i. e. in form of an Affidavit of Marriage established at the beginning of the marriage (for Bamar Buddhists), a

Christian marriage certificate (for Christians) or a Nikah Namah (for Muslims)."

the interpretation and limitations of the German embassy in Yangon are not in line with German law. the marriage of a Christian and a Muslim married by a Hindu priest in India will be registered by a German consulate or the Embassy in India and recognised.

Again, personal experiences of other foreigners marrying Myanmar woman are different. And why does it matter if the embassy´s interpretation is wrong? Its the embassy that issues a visa so all I care about is what the embassy demands.

We are just going to marry in our local town in Myanmar and if the embassy isnt ok with it we will simply go to Singapore to marry again. That wasnt the question though.

Amongst native English speakers, the words 'garbage' and 'rubbish' carry strong negative overtones - verging on insulting or provocative in most circumstances.

Maybe a too literal translation from German without realising the nuances?

No, it was meant to have a negative overtone.

Those are both from Myanmar media publications and the same info can be found across the Internet. It is also something I have been aware of for a long time.

That still doesnt make it right.

Sure in theory it is forbidden to marry but the reality is very different. I personally know of foreigners who have done it so it must be possible. Not easy but money and time will get it done eventually.

But why bother with that if you can just get a religious certificate?

Check the website of the German embassy in Yangon. They accept Christian marriage certificates.

http://www.rangun.di...ug_Download.pdf

"Evidence of existing marriage depending on personal circumstances, i. e. in form of an Affidavit

of Marriage established at the beginning of the marriage (for Bamar Buddhists), a

Christian marriage certificate (for Christians) or a Nikah Namah (for Muslims)."

To be honest, not even the local Myanmar people that I know get a marriage certificate from the government. They are mostly Christian as I live in a mainly Christian area of Myanmar so that might have something to do with it but anyways. All they do is a Christian marriage including certificate from the local church.

i tought it was impossible to marry a myanmar girl, for abvious reasons...

"I am going to marry a Myanmar girl next year".

What are the requirements for a legal marriage to a Myanmar girl?

1. Burmese law allows Myanmar citizens to get married to a foreigner. In the past, it used to be easy to get it done. Just head to a local judge and he will marry you. However, since about 10 years ago, local judges refused to do it on the ground that it is difficult to distinguish between real marriage and the human trafficking. Today, no judge or local court would marry a Burmese and a foreigner.
   
2. Even after you get married, your marriage certificate (actually a marriage contract in Burma) is in Burmese language. It has to be translated into English. You can get a certified notary translation of your marriage certificate into English but the Foreign Office will refuse to certify that notary. You can still use it if your embassy accepts the notary without a certification by the Foreign Office, but some embassies would not.
   
3. The best way to get your marriage done is to do it in a foreign country. You can do it either in Thailand or in Singapore. If you are doing it is Thailand, you will need an affidavit of freedom to get married.
   

More here - Myanmartoday

This is garbage.

"I am going to marry a Myanmar girl next year".

What are the requirements for a legal marriage to a Myanmar girl?

What does that have to do with my opening post? If you want to know then use Google please.

Also, I really dont know what your question means. The requirements for a marriage are not related to a nationality but to the country in which you want to marry.

If you marry in Singapore you will only need a passport. If you marry in Germany you need a whole lot of documents which are probably very hard to get. So what is the point of the question?

Do you want to know how somebody can get married in Myanmar?

In this case the answer to your question would be that marrying in Myanmar is easy if you are ok with only getting a religious certificate (which is accepted by the German embassy) and more difficult if you want to get a legal marriage certificate from the government authorities because it is, at least theoretically, forbidden for a Myanmar woman to marry a foreigner. Plenty of people have done it regardless. You might have to pay a bribe or go to a different city to avoid local stubborn officials.

encouraging

http://www.toytownge...hp/t272694.html

I dont think your situation is comaparable to mine. I am not talking about doing a vacation in Europe but coming here for the long term.

Dont think your girlfriend(s) and my girlfriend have anything in common either.

Thanks anyways

We would have to be able to combine a possible job offer for me with her attending a university to get a degree. Difficult enough ...

I think that living in a city like Berlin might make it even worse. My friends and what is left of my family would be far away. The little bit of social security gone and beeing all alone in a huge cold city doesnt sound like a good way to integrate in a country. Living in Berlin might help with the racism but it has too many drawbacks in my opinion.

if you are planning to take your fiancée, respectively future wife, to Germany don't forget that the threshold for a visa and Aufenthaltserlaubnis is "German language skills Goethe Institut level One". it would therefore be advisable that the young lady starts already now learning German which, in her case, makes it mandatory to study "latin" letters. if she studied and speaks/read English it won't be a big problem to master the test.

Thanks for your answer.

I know about the German language certificate/test that is needed. She is a ethnic Kachin. Kachin language uses latin letters, so she has always been familiar with them, even before she started to learn English in school.

I have started to teach her German language. I think that wont be too much of an issue. Her English is quite good too.

o explain my situation: I am going to marry a Myanmar girl next year. Obviously the options for us to live together are either to move to Europe (Germany) or to live together in Myanmar. My fiancee is 23 years old while I am 22 years old. She will have finished a Masters degree in Myanmar (Computer Science), which I assume, is useless in Germany? She has also quite a strong family bond and strong morals and opinions as she is deeply religious (Christian). She is very ambitious and intelligent also.

Does anybody have experiences how Myanmar people, or maybe SE Asians in general adapt to life in a western country? I have found some reports on this topic but most of these reports dont have much in common with my personal situation. Dont want to be offensive but most of these reports seem to be about either bargirls or about older woman who are obviously in a very different situation then my girlfriend.

I am also living in a part of Germany that has very little to no immigrants. There are quite a few racists and other right-wing scumbags around though. I am worried that she is not going to be able to deal with all the prejudices that mixed race couples have to deal with. Thanks to TV most people in Germany think that a South-East Asian woman is either a mail-order bride or a hooker. Might be easier for us because we are both young but I doubt it somehow.

I know of the obvious difficulties like the weather, food, homesickness but I´m also worried about how she is going to be able to relate to anyone over here. Her behaviour and moral values are totally different to the ones you find in girls of similiar age here. Also my family is pretty much as dysfunctional as it gets, other then me and my mother there is nobody who could take care of her when problems arise.

Anyways, I would be thankful for every answer. I´d also appreciate links to reports of people who have experienced similiar things.