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cclub75

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  1. They published some details.... It's insane. for dark red and red provinces: -85 % of staff and students must be vaccinated -max 25 students per class -2 antigen tests per week for teachers and students (1 to 2 per week for red provinces) and for orange provinces ...85 % of staff and teachers vaccinated (but not children)
  2. How can we believe such calendar ? How to vaccine millions of students... before november 1 ? Plus the fact that with Pfizer there are 3 weeks between dose 1 and dose 2. The maths do not add up, as usual. So the question is : what will happen november 1 ? Only the schools in Bangkok will be able to reopen ? What about up country ? What about the children in primary, less than 12 years old ? What will happen if parents say "no" and the target (?) of let's say 70 % off vaccinated children per school can't be achieved ? So many questions, and so little information.
  3. October 1 ? In 2 weeks ? It's a joke, of course. Enough to see for instance, the local authorities of Koh Tao... are imposing new restrictions (from 12 to 19 september : no dine in in restaurants etc.)... despite the fact that the province is "orange" (in Koh Samui the restaurant can open normally). Source : https://www.facebook.com/samuiinfobynicha/photos/a.103090108015968/387158789609097/ Why ? How ? Nobody knows, and probably not even the local authorities (i guess they found a few "cases"). My point is : local authorities will probably derail all those grand "reopening plans".
  4. Loud and clear. Sorry... i have a plane to catch to go to... Israel. It seems they have rather different data overthere. ???? Vaxxers are you listening ?
  5. 99 % of the population on this planet... beg to differ. For them, Covid is nothing but a cold. Or a small flu. Most of them do not even feel... a thing. Not even a running nose. Please, start reading the proper news.
  6. Why worrying ? Everything is for sale in Thailand. Even... mere "Covid pass" (whatever they want to call it).
  7. The CCSA has extended Covid policies to the end of september. But what about... schools ? Source : PR Thai Gvt : https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/posts/4615289548494423 "Use of school buildings is permissible contingent upon the approval of provincial education authority and provincial communicable disease committe and in accordance with rules and regulations stipulated by the Ministry of Education..." What does it mean ? On the field, the situation is totally different. All the schools and universities in Thailand (public, private and International) are "online" only. A few boarding schools have received a special authorization to reopen according to a programm "school sandbox"... One example : Ruby School Thailand Source : https://www.facebook.com/rugbyschoolthailand For the thai schools... online mode started in mid may (start of the new year) ! 4 months already... ! And there is no difference between dark red, red and orange provinces. It seems that Koh Samui is the only exception... with international schools that operate normally. Meanwhile... everybody said that thai schools would reopen again 1 november (start of semester 2). And what 1 november when the country is supposed to reopen on october 1 ? We do not have any goalpost, and the problem is factorized by... local authorities. How they will authorize any school to reopen ? According to what criterias ? Why the CCSA says that school could reopen... when it's obvious that they can't ? It's surprising that this very important question does not attract more scrutiny. Let's remember that : "There are over 37,000 Educational Institutions and nearly 20 million students in the Thai education system." Source : http://www.bic.moe.go.th/images/stories/book/ed-eng-series/intro-ed08.pdf It's not a small issue !
  8. Since you are so touchy with sources, please provide us with hard data regarding "children being in ICU for weeks and possibily having long Covid"... For Thailand and other countries in the world. Because you write this like if it was obvious and a fact seen everywhere. It's a rather strong and scary comment, so the least you can do is to give us the sources. Basically : how many children have been in ICU since january 2020, because of Covid ? And many have suffered a long Covid ? Thanks to you.
  9. And do not forget... all the schools closed since mid may ! It's obviousthat it had a great impact on the number of "cases" too... ???? Still not a (clear) word on the reopening... Perhaps november 1 ? Is there a goal post ? A target ? No Covid cases ? National or per province ? So many important questions... and still it's like nobody has a clue.
  10. One of the problem is... local authorities. One example : Koh Tao. Surat Thani province. Orange (Covid color code). They have just decided... to close (again) restaurants ! (take away only). From 12 to 19 september.... Source : https://www.facebook.com/samuiinfobynicha/photos/a.103090108015968/387158789609097/ Why ? A few more cases. What is the goal post ? Why 1 week ? What difference it will make ? And this order doesn't apply for Koh Samui nor Koh Phangan... Only Koh Tao. Meanwhile, we sale "Koh Samui plus" and all the "sandboxes"... Then tourists will arrive there... And ? "Sorry sir, no can do... No restaurant. Go to hell". And this is just one tiny example... Provinces and municipalities have... too many powers... And they use and abuse them... because they have no clue, they don't know what to do (no inhouse team of "epidemiologists" and scientists). They are afraid. Afraid of losing face. So... they close. They restrict. It cost nothing to do (for them), and it looks good. It might work.... or not.. But at least.... they do something... But all those decisions destroy the country and the people. Slowly but surely.
  11. Teens ? Enjoy the vaccine for your children. Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid Source : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study
  12. Enjoy the vaccine for your children. Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid Source : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study
  13. And once we reach "70 %".... what do you think will happen ? What will Thailand do ? Is this a "magical number" ? For an answer, you might have a look at the Covid situation in Israel, the UK, USA, and many other countries etc. It seems that Covid does not care... The problem : we oversold this "vaccine promise" to the whole world. People, especially in Asia, are going to be disappointed. And probably upset.
  14. No it's national (for the 3 zones, dark red, red and orange).
  15. 20 more days of madness for hundred of thousands of people who lost their jobs, income, assets... everything. What a great way to prepare the (so called) "reopening" of the country on october 1...
  16. Sad you don't undertand this : the vaccines your talking about it... were tested for years... before given to children, on a large scale. And those vaccines were "classic" (attenuated virus)... impossible to compare with the new ARN messenger products... But I guess you do know this, don't you ?
  17. The situation is really confusing. -all the thai schools are "online" since mid may (start of new year) -all international schools are "online" since end of august (start of new year)... with the exception of Koh Samui. Meanwhile, there is a strange program/test "school sandbox" created apparently for... boarding schools (they can reopen onsite but with many rules : vaccine for everybody, tests every 2 weeks for children etc.) Source : https://thethaiger.com/news/national/68-schools-to-reopen-as-part-of-sandbox-safety-zone-in-school-programme Meanwhile... local governors have their say. So on a national level, the CCSA might say "school open normally" (for red zone for instance)... but the "local authorities" must visit the school, give their green light... That's a huge problem. I give you one example : the governor of Nakhon Ratchasima closed international schools end of june (a few days before the end of school year)... At that time, the province had 20 cases per day.... Today they still have 200 cases per day... So what will he do ? What's the goalpost for him ? Zero case ? Or more ? Meanwhile, some international schools are looking at the "sandbox programm".... their idea is to push for vaccine : all the staff + all the children... They think it's a way to reopen faster... But would the governor of Nakhon Ratchasima approuve such an idea ? Meanwhile, the education minister hints that the solution is massive vaccination of ALL the children... before any school reopening normally. Link : https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2171811/4m-students-to-be-inoculated So nothing is clear... Even more confusing than usual (for thai standards). Last but not least... the silence around schools is defeaning... We talk about curfew time, zoning, shoppings malls, restaurants etc.... But nobody is talking about schools.
  18. Ivermectin is used since... almost 40 years in Africa... Study the evolution of demography in Africa during the last 40 years.... Yeah sure, ivermectine destroys totally sperm count ! That's a fact. That's science. And even, the horses, the pigs, the dogs.... Don't forget to tell the WHO, because those dangerous maniacs put ivermectin on the list of "essential medecines" : Download : https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHOMVPEMPIAU2019.06
  19. He was obviously... fired.. by higher authorities. Have we ever seen a minister.... resigning by himself ? ???? It can't happen here. Never. Therefore he was fired.
  20. Sure ! "Hua Hin Today: Only people who have been fully vaccinated or have a negative COVID-19 test result will be allowed to dine in at restaurants in Hua Hin from 1st October" Source : https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/vaccine-proof-needed-to-dine-in-hua-hin-restaurants-from-oct-1/ Stop the non sense. Scrap all Covid so called "restrictions". Open up the country.
  21. It's totally absurd. They might win the popular vote, of course, but why the junta would... vote to go back to the previous system ? With their current system, they totally control the senate ! Hence, any prime minister nomination. It's not a bug... it's a feature ! ????
  22. Why "hope" ? It's very simple : end all Covid restrictions. There is nothing to "hope" for... Just a political decision to take. It's on/off. Fate or faith or or chance or science have no place here. Covid can be managed (vaccine + treatment)... it's over. Open the country. Stop the Covid madness. It can be done in a jiffy.
  23. Sure. People are "responsible" to try to... feed their families... Indeed, that's so bad ! The gvt lives on another planet, it's amazing. They are the ones who have destroyd everything (for a disease that has nothing extraordinary)... and now they accuse the "people"... like it's our fault.
  24. Science is not the subject here... Thai authorities are lost. In that case, the traditionnal way to react is to overdo. It applies to everything. The vaccine humiliation was total and burning ? -Let's order hundreds of millions of doses (today they speak about "200 millions" for 2022.... why not 1 billion ? ???? -some countries started the third dose (Israel)... let's do the same (eventhough only 10 % of the thai population received 2 doses) ! -some countries create a "vaccine passeport" for restaurants... let's do the same (friday)... then no (sunday)... then yes again a few days later (for october 1, for restaurants in dark red provinces) Overdo. Always.
  25. "It's funny. Anti-covid vaxxers are alway accusing proponents of the vaccines of being afraid. Yet their fears of the possible consequences of being vaccinated are clearly ludicrous." What is "funny" is the fact that those studies do not understand the principle of... long term. The study reported findings from mid-December 2020 through June 26, 2021. 6 months. Great. We feel better. ???? They should call us back in 5 or 10 years, and then they will be able to affirm that "no serious health effects". Until then, enjoy your "6 months" study...
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