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We were scheduled to return to the US on April 8 and rebooked our flight and returned on February 21. Not particularly concerned about catching the virus but were beginning to worry about the changing logistics of international travel. Now safely back in the US and are glad we made the change. If we have not, I would have spent much of the next 1.5 months worrying.

This - https://apple.news/AGgF1L0uvSAys9j5ewMTsXQ 

I failed that test on the first two attempts as well. I went back home and set up a course on a large flat cement area, marking the area off with some leftover bricks. I then practiced and practiced and practiced. When I went back for the test three days later, I failed on the first attempt. I went again for a second and final try. I gave the bike a bit more throttle and passed. The crowd and attendants all gave me a robust ovation,

33 minutes ago, fruitman said:

It beats me why they don't wear helmets.....i mean the shooter had more than a slingshot with him.....And where is the rest of their equipment? Radio's and stuff....compare this to a SWAT team..

 

 

 

Snipers normally do not wear helmets but caps, like these fellows on backwards or none at all.

I am also a long time Garmin user, for swimming, biking and running. For biking I use either an 820 or a 520 and they have been bulletproof in my experience.

20 hours ago, Sheryl said:

There is never an issue coming in on a re-entry permit because it does not generate a new permission to stay.

 

Whether or nto OP will be asked to show insurance at his next extension is unclear at this point. Some IOs are saying so but the situation is still much in flux. If extension date is near ask your IO.

It kind of does, doesn’t it? If one was on the first year of the non imm o-a, he/she would be given a permission to stay for an additional year from that, most recent, entry date.

4 hours ago, ourdon said:

Any info about acceptance or denial of an OA (no health insurance) would be appreciated.

 

I have a new Non OA visa issued in October but will not be reaching the Kingdom till

Dec 1.

 

I can buy a good travel policy here but would like to know how necessary it is.

 

Thanks

I was in pretty much the same situation - bought a new non imm o-a in June and flew into Thailand on October 31. No conversation, no questions, stamped in for one year, just as they have done for previous new non imm o-a visas that I have purchased and used over the past few years.

This from the announcement done by immigration that shows the procedure for entry clearly states it is effective like everything else in the order on October 31. It does not apply for OA visas issued before that date.

I am counting on that Joe. Your level headed return to center is appreciated.


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If you have Insurance and LA are correct, why are you attempting to get the Insurance form (certificate) complete.

Just cautious and I won’t completely relax until I am on the other side of the immigration officer. And in that I still have a week and a half before departing/arriving it is worth attempting, and because I will replicate the entire process a year from now.

We can debate back and forth here but I am the one who will be arriving at Suvarnabhumi Airport on October 31.


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So why are CW and CM informing it's required for extensions based on retirement from an O-A entry, from 31st October, even if that Visa was issued in 2010 and expired years ago.
 

Aren’t you referring to paragraphs 2 and 3, which are not the issue with me and my non imm that I have yet to use?


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A certificate from you Insurer.  

London are already advising and asking for proof of Insurance and putting notations on O-A Visa if your entering from 31st onwards. 

Ask yourself why London have already changed the requirements for the O-A Visa, to include the request for proof of Insurance, if as some assume it only affects Visas issued from 31st Oct onwards.

 

 

According to you, London is apparently saying one needs medical insurance proof for anyone entering Thailand after October 30 and LA, who issued my visa, tells me specifically not to worry because my visa was issued prior to October 31.

 

I guess we won’t know who is correct until October 31.

 

 

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Has been - past tense, prior to.
Enters the Kingdom - not issue of Visa.
Effective from 31st October 2019.

How do you explain the part that Joe highlighted concerning checking the remarks on the visa? What remarks would there be to check on my non imm o-a visa, that I bought a few months ago?


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Please ask the LA Consulate to provide a link to that information.
Police orders clearly state effective Oct 31st you will require medical Insurance to enter Thailand on an O-A Visa. There is no mention of dates concerning when it was issued, only the date of entry.

What you see as clear, I see as a bit confusing with less than excellent sentence structure which makes me wonder about the precision of the translation.

Each year we spend our winters in Thailand via a non imm o-a visa, which, as someone who takes great pains to plan and prepare, I purchased a few months ago. We, of course have tickets, a home and a car of our own etc and depart on October 30, arriving in Thailand on October 31, so you can probably imagine my stress over this late change.

We have very solid insurance and with only three weeks until departure am attempting to get the insurance form complete. I am retired US military, and as a result, my insurance has no maximum amounts, terms etc and after a deductible, is basically unlimited.

The size of our insurance provider is massive, bureaucratic and convoluted. Additionally, even if I was willing to spend how every many thousands of dollars on a new policy, at my age I would require a full physical and underwriter review, which I think would be just about impossible to accomplish in three weeks time.

So I am pursuing the completion of the letter, and will bring a copy of LA Thai Consulate email with me and will hope for the best. My wife and I are prepared to tell our story to immigration in the hopes they will just let us through the door.


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Be aware.
Regardless of what prior date the Visa was issued, if you enter on an O-A Visa on or after 31st October, then proof of medical Insurance will be required.
 
 

That is not a fact. I asked the LA Thai Consulate this precise question and here is their response:

If your visa hasn't expired then you do not have to worry. This only affect if you apply the Non-OA Visa after Oct. 31


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It really matters not about the terminology one uses when talking with friends.

However, I see it here often when someone is asking for help and is vague, confused or in error about terminology. It takes several posts to sort out the specific issue before precise help or advice can be proved.


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OK. You now want to argue about how it works? We have already had the experts telling me all week none of this will effect extensions of an O-A.

Carry on with however you think it works. I am quite capable of reading Thai Police orders and understanding what they mean. In fact, I am quite capable of reading and understanding Law period.

Over to you

 

I didn’t realize there was no room for discussion/disagreement here when dealing with a self appointed expert. Sorry.

 

 

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It doesn't matter regarding the FIRST entry.
1st entries on a new O-A Visa are stamped in for 12 months, no matter if your insurance has only 11 months left.
2nd and subsequent entries are stamped in until the valid till date of the insurance.
Just pay attention to section 4. If you only have say 11 months on first entry and you stay 12 months as per stamp, you MUST renew the insurance before it expires or your deemed on overstay and the stamp is reverted back to 11 months.
 

That is not the way I read paragraph one. The translation is a bit odd but it sounds to me as if one will stamped into Thailand for the valid period of the insurance not to exceed one year.


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Your visa O-A or whatever starts on the day its issued.
Forget your request.

Not exactly true. The holder must enter Thailand within one year of the effective date. However, the non imm o-a multi entry visa will be stamped for a year from the date the user enters Thailand.


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