bigginhill

Could you go to a lawyer and get him to contact their lawyer? asap

Explain that it isn't crucial to a w/p and that you have handed in your notice. 

She said that once the rule is implemented, applicants for the non-immigrant O-A visa, which is valid for one year from the date of issue, would be required to buy health insurance. 

“Current holders of this visa will have to produce proof of their health insurance for visa renewal,” she said. 

3 minutes ago, carbon007 said:

Sorry, these confusing terms.

The stamp I have is - as I now understand it - not a visa.

It is a stamp (not a label) saying 'RETIREMENT..extension of permission to stay'. Issued by the local immigration.

My first and only 'visa' years ago was the Non-Immigrant O-A visa. Issued by a thai embassy outside Thailand.

 

So I am here based on an extension of a permission to stay and not based on an extension of a Non-Immigrant O-A visa.

 

As also indicated in the article  the term 'renewal of a Non-Immigrant O-A visa' doesn't make much sense as this is not possible.

The term 're-applying' seems to be suggested instead.

Such a 're-applying' takes place only at a thai embassy (and not at a local immigration office in Thailand)

mine is an O visa extended for retirement. You have an O-A extended for retirement.  

So I would like to know why is the discussion that the new insurance doesn't relate to us? 

3 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

You can't extend your visa but you can extend your stay, that's when you would show money in Thai account 2 months before 3 months after etc. 

so both O and O-A have the same extension. There are no differences for who is here on retirement. So we are Long Stay either with O or with O-A.   

No point in saying it doesn't apply then.

55 minutes ago, mosan said:

It seems to me that even with the above explanation, some still haven figured it out there is no such thing as a "Retirement Visa"...just that many people (and even some immigrations people) call "Extension of Stays" VISAs.  You either have a Non-Immigrant O-A VISA, which is issued in your home country, or you have a Non-Immigrant O VISA issued from wherever, which subsequently can be converted/extended by a "Extension of Stay" based on a reason of "Retirement" or "Marriage" or some other such reason.  

infact. I have an O from london, over 50 and financials presented , renewed in Bangkok, and even when I changed passport the new stamp says O transfer, and all the extensions do not give O or O-A . So they are the same retirement, and therefore long stay, therefore new insurance.

IMO.

and therefore I won't even bother doing extension next year.

13 minutes ago, alzack said:

I dont think this is off topic, but maybe you might take it on board. we returned to live in the uk 2016. my Thai wife's  UK visa was all ok, but we had to pay almost £900  (about 38,000 baht) for a 2.5 year UK national health insurance for her. Once she becomes full resident, she will of course have access to full free National health here.  So its not a lot to ask expats to have that security for health. But older ex pats could feel the pinch, if they are too old to get a policy, they could will see the bank money they need go way up.

£360 a year, regardless of age and health. 

Encore, if I were in your non Timberland shoes, and not wanting to pay a lawyer, I would arm myself with pen paper, photocopies of passport stamp, and I would write to every office, immigration, thai embassy I could think of, with 2 questions "can I return straight away? can I return in 2 yrs time?". 

It has a low cost, you never know. 

I,m sorry you lost all your belongings, thats hard. I would be lost,  documents, bank pins, telephone numbers. What country are you from? Are you with family now?

If you can arrange with your landlord the shipment of your belongings you will feel abit better. 

Personally I think I would definitely not return within the 2 years, could be a huge risk.

Good luck

1 hour ago, Encore said:

 

I do not think the background is relevant but can elaborate.  In the 3 months leading up the arrest, some neighbours would shout abuse as I came and went on my motorbike.  I was pushed and shoved on occasions and actually punched once.  My house was entered 3-4 times with doors and windows left open while I was out (which I considered could be a precursor to a robbery).  I tried to report this to the police but they were not concerned.  

 

The new neighbours also made false complaints to the landlord saying I was a nuisance even though I led a quiet life alone.  I can only believe that these actions were orchestrated because my Thai neighbours did not wish to have a foreigner living on the street.  

 

About a week before the arrest, my Thai next door neighbour (who had not previously spoken to me) offered me food while I was sat on the verandah.  I thanked him but, after eating, I became dizzy, nauseous and tired so drank salt water to make myself vomit and then went to the hospital.  I was checked, given medicine and told that I had a bad case of food poisoning.

 

A few days later my Thai neighbour came home drunk and saw me on my verandah.  I was having a drink and cleaning cigarette burn marks from an outdoor table.  After some unprovoked verbal abuse he turned a water hose on me, threw large potted plants at me, broke down my front sliding car gate and then came to attack me with a long metal rod.  Someone called the police who accused me of attacking the man and forcibly arrested me.

 

When I was arrested, the police would not even let me take my wallet and phone or secure my house and left the front door open.  As I was taken away in handcuffs, many of my Thai neighbours were streaming into the house.  I guess some things were stolen and everything else was later, apparently, removed from the house by the house owner.  The police also removed my expensive shoes and a belt which were never returned.  

And the arson part?

And why declare yourself guilty?

Where did it happen?

I fear you may not have much to recuperate, maybe your landlord can send you photos of whats left? Do you have friends that can help?

30 minutes ago, epicking said:

Here im not sure about the 4 Thai employees.
As I was explained recently by a Thai Lawyer, I would only have to hire 4 Thai employees IF I hired another foreigner. Not myself as the first.
As for the investment, I believe that the investment you make would have to have "income potential".
I would suggest you contact a lawyer to explain it properly.
I paid some 1200 bath for the first introduction hour and got lots of info.
However, be aware of all the award rules there are when you create a Thai company. You can not own more than 49% and the rest is owned by some "thai people" that the lawyer arrange.
You can however, switch them anytime you lik

Thanks, I,d forgotton the 49% bit. I believe you can do 2 companies one owning 51% of the other, but it,s too much hassle. Thanks anyway

1 minute ago, epicking said:

Yes it is.
Just create an "investment company" for some 4 mill bath.
With that comes one foreign work permit

Can the value of a condo be the investment? And would the company have to have 4 thai employees?

Someone on another thread posted this site

https://onwardticket.com

You buy a true reservation for 48hrs, for 12dollars. You do not pay for the flight, and the reservation cancels itself after 48hrs. 

I haven,t used it but I,ve saved the site for emergencies

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23 hours ago, Maestro said:

Yes.

 

TM.30 Immigration Public Handbook - en.pdf 215.15 kB · 5 downloads

Thanks for the handbook link. 

It says just to fill in the tm30 form, no documents are listed to attach, is that right?

12 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

Germany, Austria, the UK.... 

 

 

Many places in Europe, some have laws for reporting like Italy ???????? because of their mafia problems tho. 

In Italy you have to have your id on you at all times, it,s law, and we all abide.

If you change your address you have to report the new address, by going to the new town hall and registering yourself and all your documents will be updated. A little sticker arrives at home to put on the car,s documents.

There is no real panic to get this done, and no-one gets fined, you do it because you have to for the doctor, taxes etc.

However, it is law that you report people staying over 24hrs at your house, and no-one does that. (You do it once when you buy a house and move in as all the house paperwork has to tie up and in theory you could be fined)

Other than that it,s an ignored law. 

I,m guessing but if you have to use the deposit you used for the extension, I,d say use it the first month after renewal, and swap to the monthly payment method, taking the 12 payments in for the following extension.

Is it possibile if refused in ones own immigration office to go to a more friendly immigration office elsewhere?

(Checking into a hotel and doing Tm30 there).

There,s no obbligation to do it in the same immigration office as the year before no? Could a new immigration office refuse a new extension..er?

5 hours ago, bazzer said:

My son has now been held in Bangkok IDC for two weeks now without a visit from Embassy.

 

So they haven,t kept their promise that you posted on wednesday that they would visit this week.

I take it no one has visited him since he has been in Bangkok, or has any of his friends been to see him in Bangkok?

In your shoes I would be phoning the embassy multiple times a day. 

And if no one has gone to see him there is it possibile to pay a lawyer to go? 

Did they send you back or were you allowed entry? 

If after extension you are not in Thailand for more than 90 days, therefore no reporting done, can you go to any immigration office for the next extension? (Tm30 for that area in hand i presume needed). 

If so would it feasibly be possible if refused in one immigration office to stay in a hotel in another area and try the immigration office there?

I have changed my date of expiry several times over the years. As long as the date is brought forward there has been no problem. You sign that you are asking for a date change. Basically you are paying for 12 months but getting only 11 months ( for example). So it doesnt seem to bother them.  Once its changed it remains that date for the following years. 

I can pm u with a photo of the stamp with the date changed if you want. Let me know. 

Why does he need documentation with a thai address?

A tourist wouldnt have it, and there must be tourists who lose passports every day.

Maybe a copy of flight details would be useful. 

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I go back to the UK for a new passport, no point letting them know where I am.

This is something I'd like to know...

Do governments know where you are buy the use of the passport? Thailand keeps track of your use of the passport in and out. Does it know to which country you went?

Uk (or others) I doubt it keeps track like thailand. The schengan neither.

And I've always wondered why the stolen pasports could ever be used, is there no worldwide data base cancelling them?

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

What are they saying re spending of the bank portion?

The woman I spoke to, with regards to the 6 month portion, said  half could be spent. I had 300,000  deposited.