Keith67

Why do folk call me a ''Brit'' ? I am not a Brit, I am English. BUT, I must accept the term.

How is it that you're not a Brit, if you're English? So is anyone who is English a Brit? Or only the ones who like the word? I think what you mean is that you prefer the term English. When you say you must accept Brit, is that because it's true? If it's true, it doesn't become false just because you don't like it. Your disdain for the term Brit doesn't magically remove England from Britain. Aussie is not my favourite label, but it would be absurd for me to claim that I'm not Australian, and then assert that I'm Victorian. I've met Scottish people who get fired up, telling me that they're literally not British. Semantics!

Not really the same as England is a country as apose to a state like Victoria.

I already stated that I regretted not saying anything to him about it.I don't know if you've ever suffered from depression.It does whacky things to your mind.You don't think rationally and there's always some sort of negative thoughts going through your head.I did think about saying something at the time,but all these ideas about how he might react came into my head,and lacking in confidence I decided to keep my mouth shut.I hadn't seem him in a long time and I didn't want to rock the boat.

The only reason I posted on here was to try and help me understand why people behave like this.I just wanted to know if it was just me being silly and seeing things wrong.

You mean whacky things like shout your wife downstairs to get beers from a fridge 5 feet away from where you sit or go mental at

a guest because they stand up to get beers from the same fridge instead of shouting his wife again...

Not having a go at you but see the similarities maybe he is suffering from similar symptoms, if you spoke to him maybe you could

have been the right person to help him.

What do you expect in a country that really thought that boats moored to bridges on the river in Bangkok could push the water faster out to the gulf to end the flooding

This country is run by idiots that can only think money number one

Hilarious, and funny you should mention that. My wife tells me now that the developer is a friend of Thaksin and is one of the Pheu Thai mob.

So the reason nobody stands up to it, is that they are afraid.

Not heard from the OP since this post..........maybe they are right to be affraid....

I should add that you and your friend, by your own admission, were arrested for painting your girlfriend's shop a few days ago. Are these two events not connected?

You are both displaying signs of victimhood and wonder if you are best suited to LOS with, what appears to be, such weak personalities.

I think you are entirely correct. In fact that is probably one of the best worded, most profound comments ever articulated.

LOS should certainly be restricted to retired, angry old men with Erectyle Dysfunction...... such as yourself.

Judging by 80% off the comments on this thread it is easy to see why Farang are loathed so much in this country.

You really have to look back at your opening comment and wonder would you think any differently if asked the same question?

You asked for advise and commented about being arrested in the same post, being 2 young blokes as you are people will most

certainly wonder if there is a connection or are the problems created through your own behaviour, had you stateda little more info

as to the situation leading to your arrest and your position as a 2 year resident maybe your replies would have been given a little

more thought or at least taken a little more seriously.

Wooloomooloo's comment was perfectly justified and reasonable asking if he had learnt a lesson from this, we all do things we

may regret later it is what is called a learning curve, meaning did he do something this time he would avoid on the next occasion.

As for your last comment you choice of reply and tone really will not lead to a good result or assistance for further problems you or

your friends may encounter.

I simply painted a room in my girlfriends' shop. Next thing you know there are two thais and a member of the tourist police taking videos, photos and arresting me and my buddy. It turns out any form of work, be it on your own home or business is illegal without a work permit.... it has to be done by thais otherwise you are seen as taking a thai's job (as per what the tourist police said).

If not realising that makes me naive then so be it but as far as I'm concerned, it is just another barmy law that they attempted to use to extort me and my boy.

I didn't feel like I needed to justify or explain how long I have been here.... I was just concerned about a mate and was looking for some advice on his position..

The tone from most of the people who replied to this thread is what got my back up but I don't have the will to reply to everyone individually. Patronising comments about lessons learned..... well, again, what lesson?

Regarding "a connection", umm, no.

Anyway, if a mod could lock this thread it would be appreciated.

Edit: being accused by someone of having a weak personality when they don't even know you is imo offensive. Annnyway, moving on...

I understand what you are saying, the point you make about work permits is in fact correct and not limited to Thailand Australia and the UK ploicies are exactlythe same, any work even on your own property is seen as doing a local out of a job.

hey rik i forgot to ask do you have a w.p.

m.m.who rattled your cage.

no, i dont have a w.p., why would i need one, i wasnt paid for anything i did, i was just helping the family out so technically speaking wasnt employed and thus have no need of a work permit, the question did come up however and the gfs brother in law who is a policeman told us not to worry about it

I also do my own jobs around my house but have on occasions recieved some cautionary advice from a local family friend

who is also a policeman, a work permit is apparently required to do any work that would normally incur a payment, so you

not recieving any payment would not matter just that if a Thai did the work they would recieve payment and the fact you are

doing it for free would be seenas you doing somebody out of a job, i never have got ome to do my own jobs, but i suppose

if somebody wanted to cause problems they could.

You would be perfectly justified in reporting this company, however it could also be a big downfall for your career, in

my experience these agencies tend to stick together and if you get a reputation as a troublemaker rightly or wrongly

it could easily see you with no future employment.

Just a point for you to consider for your future.

ps do you ever get used to thai music ????

Nope, never!

More likely to be Morlam or Kantrum where the OP stayed............................... and definitely NEVER!

the place i stayed was Meaung Lopburi to be fairly specific, why, does it make that much difference ??

They are not suggestions as to your location but the styles of Thai music most common in your location..

I should add that you and your friend, by your own admission, were arrested for painting your girlfriend's shop a few days ago. Are these two events not connected?

You are both displaying signs of victimhood and wonder if you are best suited to LOS with, what appears to be, such weak personalities.

I think you are entirely correct. In fact that is probably one of the best worded, most profound comments ever articulated.

LOS should certainly be restricted to retired, angry old men with Erectyle Dysfunction...... such as yourself.

Judging by 80% off the comments on this thread it is easy to see why Farang are loathed so much in this country.

You really have to look back at your opening comment and wonder would you think any differently if asked the same question?

You asked for advise and commented about being arrested in the same post, being 2 young blokes as you are people will most

certainly wonder if there is a connection or are the problems created through your own behaviour, had you stateda little more info

as to the situation leading to your arrest and your position as a 2 year resident maybe your replies would have been given a little

more thought or at least taken a little more seriously.

Wooloomooloo's comment was perfectly justified and reasonable asking if he had learnt a lesson from this, we all do things we

may regret later it is what is called a learning curve, meaning did he do something this time he would avoid on the next occasion.

As for your last comment you choice of reply and tone really will not lead to a good result or assistance for further problems you or

your friends may encounter.

Smoking is illegal in restaurants, soo is...

Prostitution, bribing police officers, government corruption, selling beer between 12-5pm, driving on sidewalks, setting up a stall within 5 meters(?) of a cross walk, not using the meter in a taxi, driving over 80kph on highways, driving on the shoulder of the road, etc......

but no one seems to care.

Smoking is only illegal in enclosed airconditioned restaurants.....but as you say so are many other tings that are ignored..

In normal terms the Thai wife is a general help, that is to say a housekeeper, cleans the house, does the washing, ironing, cooking,

dish washing etc ... and will of course also look after the garden.

It is in fact the same duty (except garden work) of the western wife's, in addition she might also go for him to immigration to provide his 90 days reports.

Thus during all her activities he will sit on his table drinking beer, and as we have heard he will call her to get another bottle of beer from the nearby fridge.

Well, that is his mannerism, it is rather strange and somewhat barmy, he is obviously a lazy bloke to make such a silly request and that seems to indicate that he regards his wife as a servant.

Good points.

As the OP stated his friend shouted his wife to get beers from a nearby fridge and later when the OP stood to get some more

beers he went mental at him then shouted his wife again to come down and get them.

Does this realy sound like the behaviour of a normal person? going mental at a friend for getting some beers. not to me.

The OP also stated he has not seen his friend for a number of years, is it not possible he could have a medical condition that

would lead to this kind of behaviour?

After all the OP admitted he suffered from depression if during one of his depressed times if he was asked a question and failed

to answer would we be right to label him as an ignorant bas***d? no because we don't know the facts we know only what we see

at the time.

I like and love:P my OLD FARANG hubby....he brings me coffee in bed every single morning at 7 AM. He cooks and does grocery shopping. He says I am beautiful, he says he loves me no matter what. He loves everything I buy and praises me for being a good shopper. I am not spoiled I am just well LOVED:clap2: .....

Congratulations!

But when a woman does the same for her man, all the White Knights and beta males jump on the man and throw their hatred.

What an absurd world the West has produced.

You forgot to mention that this whole topic is based on the 1 guy who was invited to stay at his friend’s house as a guest

and witnessed something in his view was disrespectful.

He then made up lies to leave but then decided to post this on TV because he felt bad for lying to his friend about his reasons

for leaving.

I suggested in an earlier post that the OP should make a call to his friend and try and clear the matter up has he done it?

they are ok if it is as a back up, make sure you pay a little extra 5-6K and get one with the sim card option these can be great for just carrying around to check emails and so forth.

I bought a cheap 1 with the simcard option for my daughter she uses it all the time and no problem she plays games and chats with friends.

What else is she supposed to do if not looking after her husband ?

I think you have some serious issue if you decided to leave just after one day, maybe his wife now thinks she didn't take good care of you and lost a ton of face in the village

+5

If the wife is not complaining ,why should an outsider be? It's not like the friend beating up on the wife or something.

Mental abuse can be as damaging if not more damaging than physical abuse.

Some very sick, insecure men have found an outlet for their disease with submissive Asian women in Thailand.

No wonderthey can't make it in their own world where most women don't tolerate such abuse!

You are joking right..........Thai women are absolute masters when it comes to mental abuse......

A taxi driver i used all the time when ilived in Bangkok explained that the reason for taxi's not wanting to use meters for airport trips was how long they had to wait for a return fare, if the airport was really busy it could be hours rather than mins, most decide to run back to their local area empty then continue their normal work so the extra is compensation for returning empty.

I told him if they were to do that it would cause them to lose the fare and he said many cab drivers don't like doing airport runs due to heavy traffic and delays so they don't really worry if the fare is not worth it.

Surely it's okay if one is paying their 'wife' a set monthly 'salary'.

If you need to pay your wife a monthly salary then she is a wife in title only

If your friend is paying her a wage as many ladies request maybe his thoughts are that she will become a kind of live in house keeper / servant does this make him wrong for expecting that or her wrong for demanding a wage?

Both?

My point exactly.......on both accounts.....

A few years ago I got into a meter taxi and asked the driver to take me to the airport," no problem " said the driver with a smile.

After a couple hundred meters I noticed that he had not switched the meter on and so I ask him if he could start the meter.

" Meter no work " said the driver....I asked him again,.....again came the reply " meter no work "

So I asked the driver how much it will cost for my journey to the airport...... " 650 baht boss " said the smiling driver.

" No way, that's too much " .Not wanting to be ripped off I decided to call his bluff and I asked my g/f if she had a pen and some paper and if she could write down the name and license of the taxi driver........' Hey presto ' as if by magic the meter started working....figure that out if you can !!!

A regular story for airport trips or similar destinantions.

As i stated on another topic my wife recently bought a kareoke bar and as she was just starting i said i would pay for my beer the same as anybody else, the first night she opened i went in and sat down i ordered a beer and waited for it to be served, my wife pointed to the ice boxand said if you want a beer why you not get let my girls serve other customers, my reply was i am a customer and paying the same price as others why should i not get the same treatment.

I didn't want the girls to sit with me as they would earn no money tips and drinks wise but as a paying customer i expect to be treated no different to any other customer. I still get up and make small repairs if things break or if really busy i will give up my seat for her paying customers.

If your friend is paying her a wage as many ladies request maybe his thoughts are that she will become a kind of live in house keeper / servant does this make him wrong for expecting that or her wrong for demanding a wage?

You made spread sheets on various locations, based on what in particular, as you are looking at coming here to live very soon i am assuming you have been visiting as a tourist.

It is a very different place to be when living 24/7 and not just for short breaks, the moaning you talk about is probably based on several family factors that only become apparent when you stay here permanantly, along with the corruption, price increase of virtually everything you buy that does not have a price tag and many other points tourists never come into contact with.

A 3-4 week holiday with a loving Thai G/F is far from living 24/7 with the same girl but add the jelousy and family expectations and it is sometimes unbearable, if you have a Thai G/F living in your home country with you she will possibly completely change when living back in Thailand.

These are just a few of the points that have been mentioned on several different topics on TV over the years and no spreadsheet will allow for the unexpected that sometimes you only find from being a resident.

It would be good to see if your ideas and theories are still the same 2-3 years experience of living in Thailand..

I agree it's stupid, and that it wouldn't happen in the West. But TIT. You bought in Thailand, not the West.

Maybe 120 new various units and maybe 3 occupied? And more coming on? Drainage ruined with more to come?

I wouldn't touch property in Thailand with an 11 foot pole, and if I was you and could, I would be selling.

This is, IMO, about corruption in the government and banks. Someone is making a lot of money building all of this stuff, and the money isn't being made by sales to end users. As you said, the units themselves sit empty.

Thailand is the land of corruption. Too many people believe their hype, and there is no one to stop the rape.

The houses build on the side of Mount Vesuvius in Italy were done so without planning permission or permits of any kind and only became an issue last time the volcano erupted. Many other Italian volcanos have houses built all around them with no permits or permission.

But it hasn't flooded yet. Wait til it does then you can say see I told you so.

The houses down the road from us, about 1KM also never used to flood, now they flood every time we get heavy rain, the people there have to keep a stock of sand bags. Even the market and local shops are starting to see so much water out the front that only built up pickups can navigate around.

This is causing widespread problems for a lot of decent people who can't afford to lose their homes, these people have lived there for a long time, and the new developments are causing havoc here.

Your main problem is they never considered your or any other property owners situation prior to the new developments, so it is sure as hell now they are built they will care even less. You will never get a result that will satisfy you to this situation but i think you know that already. Only 2 choices in my opinion sell or put up with it, but 3-5 yrs down the line when it is common knowledge about the problem i feel you will have only 1 choice personally i would be making my decision sooner rather than later..

• no response is asign of guilt

My only complaint is she obviously didn't hit you hard enough.....

I am amazed at the negative responses here, not one person has thought there could be a reason for what he did, is his wife so desperate for a husband that she will allow this for no reason? I don't think so.

In all the time i have lived in Thailand and came here as a tourist i have never seen or known a Thai woman to put up with this kind of treatment from a farang husband, Thai husbands however are different.

We don't know the story or what happened previously to the OP arriving or what agreements the couple have, it is only assumed that he want's a slave or has a small dick.

I am not saying what he did is right or wrong just we don't know why he did it, if it is bothering the OP why not call him and have a talk with him about why he did it and why you left, what is the wort that can happen you end up no longer friends but that seems to be the case already if you don't.

To the OP good luck with your recovery it hope all goes well.

was the land your house is built on the same kind of sump as these before it was developed?

What was your friends reaction to you telling him the reason you were leaving early?

He just accepted it.I didn't tell him I was leaving because of the way he treats his wife.Just told him that I had to work.

Maybe if you told him the real reason for you leaving he would have been able to give you the reasons for him treating his

wife the way he did.

Instead you lied to him so you could leave early and then post on an open internet forum about his behavior, my opinion for

what it's worth is you are no better than him, you are supposed to be a friend and you do this he is better off without you.