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No wonder pH had been bouncing around a bit. [it's just taken me best part of 9kg of sodium bicarb to get my 90 cu.m pool back to 100 - in 2.4kg daily doses. That's a lot of little 300g packets - anyone know where to buy 25kg sacks?]

Perhaps this might help

and if you need bulk quantities in 25 Kg sacks please go here.

Our extraordinary low introductory price offer for the new updated Zodiac TRi chlorinator models finally draws to an end at midnight on 31 May 2015. New stocks have now arrived and prices will then reflect the recent rises imposed by the manufacturer but will still represent excellent value coupled with our reliable delivery and genuine first-class customer and product support here in the Kingdom - and all in languages that most expat residents understand with ease.

GOOD NEWS for pool owners considering investing in pool cleaning robots: after lengthy negotiations earlier this year we are pleased to announce that prices are now significantly lower for our range of market-leading Dolphin robots by Maytronics (Australia) also with genuine first-class product support in Thailand for models purchased here.

Not such good news for pool construction customers: Our order book is now full to capacity until the end of December. We are limiting our future construction of small to medium sized domestic pools to within a 200 - 250 Km radius of our works depot near Udon Thani. We will nevertheless still be pleased to bid for commercial and more demanding projects or multiple pool projects, anywhere in Thailand and Laos.

Good news for DIY pool builders: Our consulting, planning, and project supervision services have been extremely well received by architects and DIY constructors across the country, especially when coupled with our interesting discounts for complete pool technology packages.

Happy building !

Our range of pool chemicals is the largest in Thailand. Even when taking the shipping cost into consideration, for many customers, especially those in rural areas, the prices continue to represent a fantastic deal. See also our discount 4-packs. Ask for quotations for the delivery to your door of pool salt (the genuine pool salt) in bulk quantities up to 80 bags.

We process orders and ship fast (many orders are shipped same day) , and with very few exceptions all the products in our online store are in stock in our own warehouse (we do not drop-ship) but please understand that delivery services here may not yet be as sophisticated as those in your home country and that we do not work on weekends and the many Thai holidays. To avoid disappointment therefore, always allow for shipping times and above all, do read our Terms & Conditions before making a purchase.

Happy shopping !

More last-minute news: Stay tuned for news of an upcoming exclusive offer to all registered ThaiVisa members to express our appreciation for the support of customers from this forum. We also hope to be soon announcing the long-awaited opening of our pool centre with showroom, large demo pool, sales office, restaurant and customer accommodation in the heart of Isan. Check out our home page regularly for news.

Even with the very reliable high quality chlorinators you will always need to keep some powder, granule, tablet, or liquid chlorine in stock. There are times when you will still need to boost the chlorine level. For example: power outages, heavy dilution from tropical rainfall (one shower can easily send 10% of the water to the overflow) , and servicing.
Here in Thailand tropical rain showers will therefore also provide all the dilution you need if ever the CYA level creeps up.

If you are using a saltwater chlorinator on an outside pool, you will need to ADD cyanuric acid. The regular monthly boosting and shocking with normal 90% TCCA (stabilised chlorine) should add all the CYA you need, but if it doesn't we sell CYA in very small quantities at competitive prices.

I assume that 60m³ is an average pool size. Taken into consideration that a pool in tropical Thailand on a sunny day will consume about 2ppm of free chlorine per day, it would need about 130 gram of TCCA daily to keep the chlorine level stable.

130 gram of TCCA in a 60.000 liter pool will raise CYA by 1.2ppm, so it will take 83 days only to reach a CYA level of 100ppm in a pool.

Is there something wrong with my calculation using the pool calculator?

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4 x 10 is roughly the average domestic pool size here in Thailand. Your calculations may be right if you never backwash, never lose any water through evaporation, and always cover your pool during the rainy season.

If a 'professional' pool care agent has allowed all the pools under his purview to turn green there is something wrong with his/her system rather than the water itself.

While most people are aware that chlorine has something to do with swimming pools - particularly older people who remember the strong odour of it at their old-fashioned municipal pool before modern dosing systems were introduced, very few are actually aware of so many other important factors affecting the performance of the chlorine. pH is the most important but total alkalinity and calcium hardness also need to be kept at the right levels.

Most chlorine tablets, powder, or granules used in domestic pools are T.C.C.A which already contains cyanuric acid (CYA). CYA is used in tiny quantities and it would take a very long time for it to build up to such a quantity that it would block the chlorine action or become toxic. Furthermore, one will get all the dilution needed (and more) here in Thailand during the rainy season - the regular 5:00 PM storms during the season will completely change the pool water of an average sized domestic pool in about 10 - 14 days.

Get the official information about CYA, how to use it , and download the fact sheet from the Cyanuric Acid product pages here.

Chlorine will prevent the growth of algae to some extent but it will not turn the water crystal clear again. For that, a flocculant is needed.

Consider preventative maintenance against algae by regularly dosing with algicide such as these products. Many are a combined algicide/clarifier which kills the algae and renders the water clear again.

Other question.... If I don't do the grouting, does this bear any possible consecutive damage or is it just cosmetics?

Grout is very important and it is also important to use a grout that is designed for use in swimming pools. (the link is for information and the additional product information we provide - if you live near a store that stocks it you can probably save yourself the high shipping costs when purchasing from us.

Waterproof grout is an important additional water barrier. Missing or poorly applied grout can allow the water with its aggressive chemicals to eat away the tile adhesive under the tiles. This is the main cause for loose or broken tiles in swimming pools. Both a pH too high AND too low will attack cementitious products.

Done properly, with the right materials, and the water kept at a correct balance, grout can last for years - 8, 10, or even 12 years are no exceptions. Otherwise, pools quite often need regrouting after only 2 years.

We stock a very large range of chlorine products in various shipping quantities. Most of the chlorine for pools is imported from China but we also stock Nissan from Japan because customers demand it by brand. It is slightly more expensive but we have not noticed any perceptible difference in performance.

There are clearly fewer cumbersome parts in the Emaux type check valve that can restrict flow and/or entrap debris but of course it cannot be fully ruled out. Regular maintenance and checking of pool systems ensures that problems are avoided before they happen. We have seen many barrel-type cone check valves with debris stuck in the springs and cones. Such check valves are often the source of water flow problems but few people think of looking there first before calling their pool specialist.

With the advent of quality, self-priming pumps, such as Hayward, and Emaux, for example, the merits of check valves on the suction side are debatable, especially if the pump is located reasonably close to the swimming pool or balance tank water and not too high above it.

Too many restrictions such as check valves and elbow bends in the piping can significantly reduce the volume and velocity of the water, often requiring a pump of an additional 0.5HP more even for a small pool up to , say, 10 x 4m. Likewise, unless pumps are located below ground level and below the water line, even the use of check valves in the return system may not be 100% necessary. Check valves are certainly required in multiple pump set ups, but that is for a different reason.

The check valve with the transparent lid does have a spring for the flap but it is not so strong as the springs in the cone type valves.

Distinct advantages of these flap type valves is their ease of servicing, the availability of parts, and the fact that the passage of water is unrestricted whereas the water passage in other types is restricted by having to pass around a cone or a ball.

There are many brands of the 'barrel' type check valves and they all look very similar due also to copying. Do bear in mind that this kind of valve is used in many branches of industry of which swimming pools is probably the least of their application. The parts however, are not always interchangeable and the retaining rings often have threads of a different pitch. The Emaux type is designed exclusively for use in swimming pool situations and while it is available under several brands, they are not copies - Emaux offer their products as 'white label' to large distributors and other pool equipment manufacturers.

Spring/cone type check valves by Peraqua, Austria, Europe are excellent quality and have no known issues.

There are some cheaper, near identical ones, on the market here in Thailand but the spring rusts away after about one year and the cone has no support left and sticks in either a closed, fully open, or half-open position.

There are also others on the market with a near identical casing that have a ball inside that has no spring. They close well when under pressure, but may leak when only closed under gravity of the water on top, hence they should be installed in a vertical position only.

Emaux manufacture a flap type check valve with a clear-view lid. very efficient but should always be installed horizontally, or vertically with the flap by default in the closed position.

Spring type check valves have very strong springs and can significantly reduce the water flow - especially when used with smaller pumps (e.g. under 1HP), while with flap types the resistance to the water flow is negligible.

The term 'ball-valve' is usually used for a tap because inside they have a ball with a hole for the water to pass through.

It would be inaccurate to assume that all other quality brands of pumps other than Hayward are not equipped with 'no flow' protection. That said, we have known plenty of Hayward pumps to run dry and seize.

Why is it that Salwater chlorinators are so ridiculous expensive in Thailand, something like 2.5 times the price they are in Australia for the same thing?

It can't be the import charges, since it is a null tariff, been there done that.

This is not exactly directed at the OP, since the prices are about the same in all Thailand pool shops, but probably he can give a reasonable answer.

1. It is not a 'null' tariff, in fact the import duty on pool equipment is extremely high.

2. Manufacturers do not sell to export customers at prices any lower than they sell to their domestic wholesalers

3. No importers in Thailand will purchase the high minimum quantities required by manufacturers to qualify for additional discounts. When these discounts are available they are so low as to not worth taking into consideration.

4. CIF (export packing, shipping, and insurance). Long shipping distances.

5. Import duty

6. Customs clearance 'fee'

7. Customs clearance agent's fee

8. Domestic logistics to importer's warehouse

9. Importer's wholesale profit mark up

10. Distribution costs to pool shops / other regional distributors / online retailers

11. retailer's mark up, VAT

12. Some pool shops are greedy

13. Some pool equipment vendors/constructors sell cheap but then refuse to accept their retailer responsibilities for customer/product support

The prices are not the same. We have seen ,for example Zodiac TRi COMPACT model, on sale here in Thailand from as little as baht 28,000 which is a 'loss leader' to 98,000 which , as Anthony5 says, is ridiculous.

A point to consider: goods on shelves are not like cash in the bank - they do not earn interest. Chlorinators are an expensive commodity for any Thai company,whichever way you look at it. Chlorinators are not as fast moving in this market as people might be led to believe. if you have too many in stock, by the time you have sold them all they are already superceded by a later model.

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Our super-saver offers proved to be so popular during the rainy season that as a special bonus for customers and to celebrate the reopening of our brand new refurbished online pool shop we have decided to maintain these prices permanently.

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We are pleased to announce that our Thailand Online Swimming Pool Shop is back online after a major refurbishment.

We would like to thank all our customers in the far north who continued to send in their orders by email, phone, and fax.

We are sure that new and existing customers will appreciate the much improved shopping experience, now available also in German and French.

For most products we can now offer same day shipping for orders confirmed before 12:00 noon.

Thanks also to ThaiVisa.com for your support throughout our downtime.

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We are pleased to announce that our Thailand Online Swimming Pool Shop is back online after a major refurbishment.

We would like to thank all our customers in the central Thailand provinces who continued to send in their orders by email, phone, and fax.

We are sure that new and existing customers will appreciate the much improved shopping experience, now available also in German and French.

For most products we can now offer same day shipping for orders confirmed before 12:00 noon.

Thanks also to ThaiVisa.com for your support throughout our downtime.

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We are pleased to announce that our Thailand Online Swimming Pool Shop is back online after a major refurbishment.

We would like to thank all our customers in the Greater Bangkok area, Nonthaburi, and Samut Prakan who continued to send in their orders by email, phone, and fax.

We are sure that new and existing customers will appreciate the much improved shopping experience, now available also in German and French.

Orders confirmed before 12:00 noon can now generally be shipped on the same day.

Thanks also to ThaiVisa.com for your support throughout our downtime.

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On the top of the English home page you will see that we also have an agent and stock in Vientiane. We also have a warehouse near Nong Khai so deliveries to our Vientiane agent are very quick.

We are pleased to announce that our Thailand Online Swimming Pool Shop is back online after a major refurbishment.

We would like to thank all our customers in the Cha Am, Hua Hin, and Pratchuap areas who continued to send in their orders by email, phone, and fax.

We are sure that new and existing customers will appreciate the much improved shopping experience, now available also in German and French.

For most products we can now offer same day shipping for orders confirmed before 12:00 noon.

Thanks also to ThaiVisa.com for your support throughout our downtime.

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