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Does OP have any other examples of foreigners scamming Thais?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/674872-dsi-to-probe-thai-workers-berry-picking-fiasco-in-sweden-and-finland/ (Some foreigners con.men use this work opportunity scamming thais)

Its an larger Island thing. islands often have their own kind of law. their own land own rules. phuket-taxis might smile and agree too whatever the minister says. but after the tourists situation on the streets situation will not change. In the end its all about cash, and these rude people.

To tackle this problems it must come from within phuket itself. and since they are afraid for what these people are capable of... the taxi drivers can almost do what ever they want. they know phuket will always be famous and new arrivals every day at the airport. the taxi fares is also overpriced. they live a good life and will fight whatever and whoever for it. especially the real taxi locals will do this cuz its their land. That word mafia is such a wide word. but when I was there many high ranking thai business owners didn't want to have anything to do with them. sometimes they had their cars with new loud sound systems (Really loud)the whole beach were shaking and echoing in the restaurants, many complaints. they just replied: the taxi guys dangerous mafia! mafia! personally I had hard to tell who was mafia and who was a normal taxi guy. but lets say they are connected. and if you put yourself in a situation were you fight and hurt one of them badly. you better leave the island. every street there is a tuk-tuk, taxi. motorbike. the underground communication system is very fast.

And when they fight you its not a boxing fight. the brawl Ive seen(Lets say forget about fair/unfair) cuz not only are they 10 times as many but armed with glass bottles, and steel pipes. they will use it for sure.

Thailand is not like the west. even in BKK If you get a ride with motorbike taxi. when you reach your destination the taxi bike will 90% drive straight back to his own taxi street and spot.

if he has balls he could try to get customers on the new soi, street. but if the motor taxis on that street see it. it might get ruff very ruff.

Unfortunately Thailand is no exception for con men. Some of the worst emanate out of Nigeria, where their own Embassy warn of their own nationa'ls activities. In some cases, fraud is actually taught in some unscrupulous Colleges, where typical formats are handed out, with details of genuine accidents, whether an air crash or road accident. The facts can be checked on in past newspapers or T.V coverage, but just the names are changed. The dead 'relatives' supposedly left large sums of untouched money in a bank account in Nigeria or a neighbouring country, which can only be accessed by their taking on a foreign partner, who will allegedly receive a generous percentage of the millions of dollars at stake. Invariably there are lawyers and transfer fees to pay up front, before the surviving 'relative' disappears into the sunset !

Unfair of you to talk bad about the Nigerian Princes here in Thailand.

I know one very nice Nigerian Prince (from e-mail) and he even promised me a lot of money if I only sent him only a little bit.

One Nigerian who borrowed my passport, even gave it back again to me after 2 weeks.

so did you sent him that "little bit" of money?

Unfortunately Thailand is no exception for con men. Some of the worst emanate out of Nigeria, where their own Embassy warn of their own nationa'ls activities. In some cases, fraud is actually taught in some unscrupulous Colleges, where typical formats are handed out, with details of genuine accidents, whether an air crash or road accident. The facts can be checked on in past newspapers or T.V coverage, but just the names are changed. The dead 'relatives' supposedly left large sums of untouched money in a bank account in Nigeria or a neighbouring country, which can only be accessed by their taking on a foreign partner, who will allegedly receive a generous percentage of the millions of dollars at stake. Invariably there are lawyers and transfer fees to pay up front, before the surviving 'relative' disappears into the sunset !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_scam

I was on koh san road and a bloke said i was a lucky man and then said he would guess 3 things about me and if he got them right, i would give him 20k or something like that

1 my dob

2 my gf name

3 i forget what

Anyway i had to go down a side street with him and write down these 3 things without him seeing... well he guessed them all right and demanded the 20k - i got out of the scam by saying 'no' and started walking off he said that i would die on my travel but obviously i didnt

Id like to know how he managed to see what i wrote maybe a mirror behind me or maybe he was for real either way, he was not happy

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Ive heard a similar story. it must have something to do with what you write down was it his pen and paper?A friend wrote three things and after he told him the name of his mom and sister

Very strange

This isn't a really big scam/fraud but I will share it anyway:

At one of the islands in Thailand. I saw a swiss guy living close to my hotel. he was with a swiss lady. I later met them in a disco later at night.

The day after he saw me on the street and told me he had been thrown out of his apartment cuz of that lady, he had been living here for a very long time. she was just visiting 2 weeks she had started to fight and argue and broke the hotel-room. he had to pay the damage. he told me he will never be with her again she put me in so much trouble. I got thrown out and all my money is somehow lost. I just need money to eat and call home.

I could feel something wasn't right, but I figured I will give him a very small amount so if its not true then it didn't mater much for me.

I gave him 50 baht. he said thanx now I can eat. 5min later he is sitting and drinking beer, no food on the table.

A thai lady who worked on the same street saw our conversation and came to me after I had given him the money, smiling wide and asking me how much I gave him. she also told me that he had been staying here for years. he came here for holiday a couple of years ago and liked this place so much so he never went back, stayed without any money.

she also added: That when he meet people from his own country and telling them some kind of story they give him much more.

She was right. next day he was with the same lady in the disco. best happy friends(There are always a couple of these guys in every place)hard to tell who really lost everything and who didn't.

"cuz they really are hollywood actors"

Does OP have any other examples of foreigners scamming Thais?

Yes There are many ex: over sea job offers for thais. pay an amount and get the opportunity to pick berries in the nordic countries during the season.

Get payed and after they return to thailand with enough money to buy something or start their own small family business. there are many good stories of thais who went and were prepared to work hard picking berries(Ive met a couple)but there are also bad stories. some paying western con-men and lost their money with empty promises. after if the police manage to find the western con-man in Thailand. they sometimes do find them, the con-man then claim that he has been ripped of the money by the ones he payed or the larger companies.

Hard to prove and it could also be some thai people involved in this scams there are many stories on the web o these frauds.

OK I will tell a very simple story how I saved another guy from getting beaten up by taxi drivers: he was surrounded by 10 taxi drivers and wasn't allowed to leave. they were really going to beat him up. he didn't have enough cash that day, intoxicated and stupid enough to enter the taxi without enough cash, so in the end he couldn't pay the taxi trip. I didn't know the guy but I had seen him once before. I asked the drivers how much money is missing. they said 130 baht. I payed the 130 baht and he was out of trouble that day. The guys I was with knew him much better than me but they still didn't want to save him from that situation. we later became friends

Soooooo...the reality was this wasn't really a SCAM!....Just another drunk idiot who got himself in a jam....Kudos to you for getting him out of it ....but from what you told us I can see why the guy who knew him better didn't get involved.

They didn't because o the tense situation. he was really seconds from getting beaten up. and they probably knew how he was. cuz this wasn't gonna be the last time he got himself into trouble in Thailand.

OP: do you get paid for opening secondary posts for threads you have seen on ThaiVisa?

Haha no.. I just think THAIVISA is a good place for us to share info and help on another. the other similar thread was of latest scams etc.

This thread is only about scams and how you managed to get out out of it.

OK I will tell a very simple story how I saved another guy from getting beaten up by taxi drivers: he was surrounded by 10 taxi drivers and wasn't allowed to leave. they were really going to beat him up. he didn't have enough cash that day, intoxicated and stupid enough to enter the taxi without enough cash, so in the end he couldn't pay the taxi trip. I didn't know the guy but I had seen him once before. I asked the drivers how much money is missing. they said 130 baht. I payed the 130 baht and he was out of trouble that day. The guys I was with knew him much better than me but they still didn't want to save him from that situation. we later became friends

In this topic we can all share our experience in attempted scams and our encounters with con-men in Thailand. how we managed to handle and get out of that situation.

Can be everything from minor street scams, taxi, tickets, hotels to gigantic scams: gem stones, real estates, trouble with policemen. you name it.

the important thing is this topic is how you got in and managed to get out of that situation

I heard about an english guy who was middle-class in UK. he realized ha would never be high class in UK and live the life he wanted so he sold everything and move to thailand bought everything in his thai gf name. House, Land, Car and the rest. he was in his 40s

Anyway his girlfriend or wife trowed him out. now he has nothing 0, not even a place to sleep. I asked a thai lady what she thought about it. her view was: Maybe he came home drunk all night and argued. why is he so stupid to give and put everything in her name only?I answered: because of love, he loved her. she replied: Love oh my God, Love, why doesn't he love him self! strange answer but I guess she had a lot of points. everything doesn't have to be in a thais name

boxers have no problems in heat, if they are bred and grown up in hot countries. israeli boxers all have longer noses and they are working dogs here too. my nero was from finland and the chunky type, he did suffer here, but nala ,born and bred in teh negev had zero problems in heat. both died from genetic boxer conditions. nero from cancers and nala from cardiomyapathy (nowadays screening is carried out here for that).

as for vaccines, no need to argue, we know nienke prefers to deal with vaccines differently but after two weeks ago, i may start paying more attention. my lhasa , lilee, gave birth to lhasa poo pups. the birth was hard (getting spayed next month) but 6 healthy pups; the two smaller females went in to shock after their first 6way vaccines. the other pups had no side affects whatso over. the two girls took quite awhile to get back to 'themselves' after the vaccine.

as for dogs, breeds, or mixed breeds should match your temperment and life style. i went from staffies to boxers to lhasas/and one of lilee's pups stays with us also... they are a big dog in a small body and we clip them not too short and they deal fine with the heat (our heat is desert heat not humid but still, we dont use a/c in the house).

personally i would always go for a thai village dog if living in a large house/yard. like our canaan dog.

boxers can deal with apartmetns and villages no problem. basically giant lap dogs with lots of energy, and very needing to be with family all the itme. lhasas do their own thing, independant little dogs. thai ridgebacks need to be worked with and im not sure they fit with people that have no dog experience (as rhodies also fit in this label).

Thanx very good info. Now you got me interested in Israeli dogs. which dogs breeds are native too "The Holy land"?

Whats with all these jumping by tourists and ex-pats all over Thailand it seems. if almost all of them are broken-heart-suicide-attempts. Very crazy but brave people who chose jumping from high buildings. One day I'm gonna look more into this and try to understand. why jump?I told my gf that one day it could be me who jumped o a broken heart.

she replied: You better chose a higher building then that Finnish man who wanted to jump from 1st or 2nd floor. Haha

"Not so polluted," 5555555

Just a few tons of garbage washing up on the beach daily! If you want to go native, they maybe you can survive in bangsean...boring as anywhere else in Los for a farang but at least only 40 minutes from both pattaya and Bangkok. You sound like a newbie so I guess it's all still good to you...so why not BS or Nakorn Nowhere for the gai yaan 5555

Yes I will probably go half native or find my own things, joining the fishermen on their trips "fishing up trash" or something Los? BS? What does gai yaan mean?

Newbie as suspected...only such would agree with GF to live in BS...but like I said, it's all new and interesting to you but old and boring to the rest of us.

It will be easier for her to get rid of the corpse in BS than in Pattaya.

Haha my corpse huh?I better start writing my testimony

Ive hard of many scams in Thailand. but the most brutal ones have been from people who traveled around in Vietnam. How come they seem much more specialist and updated with frauds?

a scam in Thailand when you buy property: you pre-pay the property and travel down with your family to Phuket. when you stay in front your dream house and open the door. there is a Thai family already living in there. they tell you: pay us same amount you already payed and the house will be yours for sure. we promise.

The guy already pre-payed 5 million baht. now again 5 million baht: 10 million baht for that house(guess what they still properly love Thailand

My point o view: you are working and living in Europe, If you are going to stay only 2 weeks-1 month every year in Thailand why do you really need to buy.

Just rent it

Seeing the video I don't really understand whats up(those Tourists and Thai same same) One thing with Thailand and south eastern Asia(major tourist places with greedy people) nr1, Rule you should always have encoded in your DNA, never ever forgot!!!When you jump into a taxi, haircut, what ever it might be. ALWAYS ask how much before you decide to buy/do it. Don't drop your guard cuz of that wide smile If you don't follow this simple rule. You can be lucky or really unlucky. they will come out with a fantasy price. They will lie to them self in their head that they are right. If the police finally comes: you will be the one that was stupid, cuz you didn't ask how much before. NO MATER how boring it is to ask. Always do it. It can save you a lot of trouble.

In BKK if you're unlucky you can have one of those gangster type of tuk-tuk or taxi drivers. here its most important to follow your code: ASK First. If he tells you don't worry you're my friend I give you good price, be prepared to fight when you reach your destination, if you don't want to pay. or jump out and take another one there are thousands. If you who look very Nordic blue eyed-white hair. I you tell them you are Russian. and try to look stiff like terminator with your sunglasses on. level of getting ripped of will recuse with high percentage.

You must understand that many taxi drivers could get fortunes in the old days if they found an afraid tourist and scared the crap out o him regarding the price, these gold digging times were before the compulsory taximeter many are angry because they used to earn a lot more before. even thai people got affected by their greedy in those days.

All those questions were you come from, what do you work with?Is to calculate how much money that can get from you. If you come ex: Scandinavia. They know you are friendly and 90% will not cause that much trouble just pay and move on. but if you say you're Russian or similar. they will think: hes blond looking but he will probably fight back and not agree to pay that kind amount. A reliable friend who lived in BKK long time. told me a lot regarding the "taxi bad boys"

There is a resent video of an American got killed in BKK:

Interesting hmm I wonder how many Chinese people will visit Thailand in a near future and if within 10 years they will stand for 90% of all annual tourists coming to Thailand. Lets face it they are getting wealthier and Thailand is not that far for them. while Europe and US have their ups and downs.

THAIVISA need to upgrade into Mandarin/Cantonese. these guys will have to learn these forums valuable info and about the tourist scams, all the way back from the beginning

Ohh forgot if THAIVISA going to start on the web in Mandarin/Cantonese. THIAIVISA has the change its name, chinese they wont need a visa like the rest of us right

Does anybody know about eating,drinking herbs/vegetables or something to strengthen your legs. Ive heard about lemon-grass. anything else?

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Thank you for posting that!!

Any vegetable plant? that is good for building stronger legs?

Any vegetable plant?herb? that is good for building stronger legs?

Any vegetable plant? that is good for building stronger legs?

I love thai food. considering all the vegetables and not long stored fridge/freezer food it is really healthy.

Does anybody know any thai herbs that makes your legs stronger?Ive heard about and read about lemon-grass.

I checked it up after a khmer boxer said that he drinks lemon grass tea every morning so he has really strong legs. and its true. really good for older people to drink too,

Any other herb?plant? that is good for building strong legs?

He have been living in Cha-am for a long time as a property broker mostly for Scandinavian, he owns a lot of money to Cha-am developers, and to his customers, milions and milions

Now this whole thing got more interesting. Cha Am really. I like that place. has he been living there a long time?wow and the money is gone. or can it be since he cant own the land the properties are built on. and he got into brawls with the real owners(thai people) and then he with the scandinavian buyers since he is the face out and they could have trusted him more than thai people, since he speaks their language and understand their culture etc. I'm just guessing guys I don't know anything about this guy but I want to see what this all lead to. cool if Mr London would be video interviewed about this.

I feel sorry for the Scandinavian buyers, most likely Mr London was recommended to them and sold houses before without any problems.

and now many have lost fortunes, I saw some new built houses in cha am, not even close to the beach they were small villas and not much land included but they were really expensive.

Many guys goes to Thailand, makes a living, makes money in the beginning. after hang in the bars do everything. Thailand is so cheap after all. small and medium costs from here to there and after a while no good income flow like before. ruined, I always meet a couple o these type o guys on my flight back home, telling me about their great life, golf, bars, girls, party expensive villas. but never realizes it in time when their treasure chest is empty.

Perhaps Mr. London is a THAIVISA member and will give us his point o view soon

I saw a Russian older in her 50s buying those delicious rote's pancakes from a street pancake-seller-guy in Koh Chang. The price was approx 35 baht. she payed with a 1000baht note and "keep the change" Think he drove straight home and took his gf out for dinner after Does Thailand need you?When I'm in Holiday I do a lot of things"spending as much as I need to feel that I'm really on a vacation" But the Russian lady. Asking the Thais working at the tourist places, Answer would be: YES!!!!