ethaniel

Wow, you do have fast speeds in Bangkok. I prefer my way of testing, because:

1. Moscow is a fuсking long way away. Connection has to go either through Europe, or USA depending on the conditions. This way a lot of international exchanges are involved and it's easier to see how much priority each ISP has.

2. Singapore and LA/SF have much more relaxed throttling. I don't think they're quite informative on the actual international condition.

Also, speedtest.net is a multithreaded test.

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

It's the latest fibre-optic as far as i'm aware.

What package are you on? Can you take a photo of your modem?

Hello everyone, I live on Koh Samui and I am a web developer.

I have servers in Moscow, Russia that I use to do a speedtest on every 120 seconds from each of the 8 fiber optic lines that I have access to (2 x 3BB, 3 x TOT, 1 x CAT, 1 x AIS).

Just wanted to share with you my observations.

What you see on the graph is the average speed of a 10 second download from my servers in Moscow (which have gigabit access to Europe).

It helps me understand how congested are the international lines of each provider here on the island.

Here are my observations for the last 4 months:

1st place. 3BB. 2-3 megabits per international connection per second. Almost never slows down during peak times.

2nd place. TOT. Sticks to 1.5-2 megabits. But has a nasty habbit of going down to 0.3 megabits during superpeak times (like christmas/new years holidays).

3rd place. CAT. Average at 0.6-0.7 megabits per second (they have capped the speed per international connection to 700 kilobits). RARELY goes higher (much higher) to 3-5 megabits. But that happens for 1-2 hours at a time.

4th place. AIS. Completely unreliable. Speed jumps all over the place. Can be fast (1.5-2 megabits). But can slow down to crawling 0.3 megabits.

Will be happy to answer any questions.

Are you on DSL or Fiber?

(add +4 hours to graph time, because the graphing server is in another timezone).

Today was probably the worst day for TOT, CAT and AIS. And probably it has to do with so many new people on the island right now.

As I'm speaking, TOT, CAT and AIS international speeds are incredibly slow (100-500 kilobits per connection per second). Info from 3 separate TOT connections, 1 AIS and 1 CAT.

3BB is the best as usual. Info from 2 separate 3BB lines.

So basically, if you're still deciding on what Fiber Provider to go for - choose 3BB. 

It has shown stable results throughout the year and the international speeds are much faster than other providers.

Other providers (from good to bad).

2nd place - TOT.

3rd place - AIS and CAT.

14 hours ago, webfact said:

All of the illegal aliens will be sent back to their home country and be blacklisted.

But before, they will have to stay for at least 3 to 10 years in the IDC Jail in Bangkok along with their kids - as long as they will be trying to find the money for a ticket out, because Thai government doesn't want to pay for deportations.

As usual, Thai media decides to conveniently leave this information out.

Topic closed. Thank you for awesome advices. I ended up hiring a freelance notary from google maps. Risky, but at least his certificate looks alright.

Hello! I am in Bangkok until evening today and need someone to help me out tomorrow (preferably a Thai person).

The job is to take my documents to the ministry of foreign affairs (consular department). I was hoping to do it today myself, but turns out it's a government holiday and I already have a booked flight for tonight.

Can someone meet with me today, go with me to a notary (to make a power of attorney) and take the documents to the ministry of foreign affairs tomorrow?

I will be paying for this service, so name your price.

Today was a bad day for TOT. International connectivity was almost unusable for at least 4 hours (confirmed on 3 separate lines).

3BB was fast as usual.

CAT slow as usual.

1 hour ago, suzannegoh said:

That's discussed extensively in that other thread too. Some speed testers such as speedtest.net are multi-threaded while others let you select between multi-threaded or single-threaded. Some of the testers also measure how much the speed varies over time. So while I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, I'd be a little surprised if there was a need to invent a new test.

One of the reasons I'm also doing my test is to show how speed changes during time of the day. My tests run non-stop. You would not see that fluctuation on a regular speedtest.

So, for example, if you did a regular speedtest on CAT, you might be lucky and hit the time when they give you maximum speed (10 megabits per thread). But most of the time the speed is slow (around 700 kilobits per thread).

7 hours ago, suzannegoh said:

One guy there is reporting download speeds in excess of 100 Mb/sec  from San Francisco to Bangkok using AIS 200/50 Fibre.  That thread is here:
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/949508-3bb-vs-ais-fiber-vs-true-online-fttx/

Speedtests are normally performed in several parallel connections (5+). They are also allowed to run longer. I've noticed that local ISPs tend to speed up connections that take longer than 10 seconds to run. This is why people are reporting high results on different speedtests (although regular internet browsing may feel sluggish).

In my tests I'm drilling down do the basics - how fast a single connection can be within a 10 second time limit. 

This allows me to show the differences between different providers in terms of how fast a page load experience would "feel".

23 hours ago, muratremix said:

Why don't you use a vpn server at singapore?

Or better, use a singapore server for IPTV relay / proxy so you can get much much faster speeds?

 

I'm downloading at 210 mbps using single connection from google and I get over 100-150 mbps from singapore using https via 3bb 200/100 in koh samui.

 

a https proxy also helps at singapore if you don't want to deal with iptv relay proxy

Most people don't have the luxury of knowing how to set this thing up. The point of this thread is to show which ISP is better for basic browsing.

50 minutes ago, Mr lamai said:

 

Okok thanks i have never experiences this kind of trouble. Usually just works fine or just not work. Been on same line many many years so perhaps a "forced" change to fibe is needed. Thanks

Just. Do. It.

F*сk DSL. Seriously.

1 hour ago, suzannegoh said:

 

But is a worst case scenario like that predictive of a users' experience? I think not - there might be some small village in Somalia to which I'd only be able to get a 300 baud connection but that doesn't affect me. I watch HD video streamed from the US and EU all the time, and if your data was typical then I would not be able to.

 

I would love to add a speedtest to Los Angeles if someone could run iperf3 on some server there.

Can you show where you are streaming HD video from?

6 hours ago, suzannegoh said:

 

Can you explain these results and your methodology a little more? What is confusing me is that the numbers seem to be about a tenth of the speeds that I get with AIS Fibre. Is it because you measuring in megabytes per second rather than megabits per second?

 

It's megabits per second. 

What I'm measuring is a speed of a single connection to a remote international server. The server in Moscow, Russia is chosen because it's far enough to test all the international routing policies that a ISP has. It's a "worst case" scenario - the lowest speed that you can possibly get on a chosen ISP.

Each test takes 10 seconds which is enough for a download to "speed up". Normally the speeds are super-high for the first 1-2 seconds, then they drop, and then they gradually increase (weird ISP policies). 10 seconds is enough for "averaging".

The reason I'm doing a single connection test is to show how fast a single image/movie/iptv stream can load over a given connection if it's downloaded from outside of Thailand.

It's worth noting that Facebook, Youtube, other big companies have servers in Bangkok, so their speed is much faster.

Also, if you're downloading through torrents, then multiple connections are established - so you might not notice the difference between a fast ISP and a slow one.

I decided to do this test because sometimes my internet connection feels very slow. The pages took 3-5 seconds to load completely (which is annoying). And some of the channels on my iptv couldn't play without hiccups. Also, if I'm watching a rare youtube video (which isn't cached in Bangkok), the HD stream wouldn't download fast enough to play without hiccups.

2 hours ago, STD Warehouse said:

been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Overstayed for 12 years whilst living in a coconut shack at Magic Hut in Had Rin in the "good old days", paid 20 baht a night and all the gang where on overstays, seemed like the think to do back then, how times change, sigh...

20 baht per night? what year was that? and what did you do for 12 years on KPG if you don't mind me asking?

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

I think you, user "ethaniel", are correct with the 2750 baht for a fully priced ticket – seem like I was out that far in advance, that I probably got a "Resident"-discount on an early-booking price, as the full price for a day-flight BKK-USM was shown as around 3800 baht, and I only paid 2000 baht all inclusive...

Normally, in high season, the 2000 baht price is available for super-early flights (like 7am). I would recommend asking the call center agent to advise you on the best time to fly.

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

That is Resident Card-holder's normal all-year-round price from Bangkok to Samui, Early Bird and Late Night are even cheaper...

Normally it's 2750 during the day. Probably low season now so it's 2000 baht all day.

But anyways, booking a cheap direct flight to Samui right before I get into the airport is bliss.

I'm in BKK now. Booked a flight to Samui for 2000 baht over the phone on my way to the airport and boarding in 1 hour.

Residence Card privileges lol.

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I think that you are mixing two issues here.

 

UN refugees do not tend to live in high-cost tourist areas such as Samui, KPN and Pattaya.

 

I would doubt that any of the arrests mentioned in this thread are UN refugees.

 

Here we are talking about overstays!

Good point.

Well here's a old guy who's been forgotten about and is in the IDC for more than 10 years.

47 minutes ago, balo said:

I am happy they are doing something about this 

Then you must be extremely happy with mothers and children sitting behind bars in Bangkok's IDC in violation of United Nations Law. These are refugees that are registered with the UN. Children are kept in horrible conditions with their mothers (100 people on 1 cell). They don't see their fathers. Fathers are kept separately.

In my opinion this is nothing but a show of power by the prime minister trying to keep his place and postpone elections even further.

2 hours ago, markaoffy said:

Round them up and dump them outside the country if they can’t pay for ticket to home country

Why not just go the good old German way while we're at it?

4 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Troll response to a post removed. 

I'm sorry. I just couldn't help myself.

45 minutes ago, carmine said:

Have you stopped taking your medication?

In case you don't know what Immigration Detention Center in Bangkok looks like from inside (filmed by a journalist from a hidden camera).