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Whats new? And yet these Nigerians are allowed into the country? Really cannot understand the Immigration Authorities.

I studied at university in Bangkok with several Nigerians. Some lovely decent people, others not so much. Why should they all be punished?

Maybe all the westerners should get kicked out when one commits a crime.

I would like to see more of the traditional garb.

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If Bkk floods, don't come and make Korat city the new Bkk, like they said....don't need all you soap stars and movie stars living here! Shit, did i say that out loud, no room at the Inn, sorry.

That would be the most sensible idea, though. Pick several other cities and develop them a lot, while trying to stop further sinking in Bangkok. After a while, there will be less and less need for Bangkok anyway. And fi they find a solution to completely protect Bangkok, then great.

Korat would be perfect, by the way. Probably Udon too. And Khon Kaen.

If those 3 places were built up to the equivalent of Bangkok, the Bangkok population would drop by about 80%

Problem solved. Haven't even finished my first Archa yet.

But don't come where I am.

By the way, if Bangers does become the new Atlantis, our sleepy Isaan cities are gonna be a whole lot more crowded. Probably with hookers and taxi drivers, so let's not complain, lol, sorry.

In fact, scrap the 1st idea. The 2nd one is better. Let her sink.

The Thai government was advised on this many

years ago and ignored the issue.

The people on the other hand are securing land

and building houses outside of Bangkok waiting

for the floods to come, that's why land prices are

going up.

Sirs

As the farangs from sinking Bangkok hate Pattaya, where will you go?????

They will probably go where ever Bangkok gets moved to.

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Would a submerged Bangkok...be a bad thing?

Not really, I suppose.

I just told my GF, she doesn't believe it.

I wonder what they will do about it?

Some people get off on this stuff. At least this guy gets paid for it as well.

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Maybe it is just because I am not a native English speaker....., but to "have" a woman sounds odd to me.
Odd and 19th century-ish.
Did the woman "have" you too?

Only the fun ones!

Lets me guess, your women lay there like a sack of potatoes?

That's an established fact. The sea level doesn't even have to rise, Bangkok is itself is sinking. Has to do with tectonic, Continental drifts etc.

Makes me feel special to have experienced it.

So, how long has it got?

Double post

“Ideally, what should be said to every child, repeatedly, throughout his or her school life is something like this: 'You are in the process of being indoctrinated. We have not yet evolved a system of education that is not a system of indoctrination. We are sorry, but it is the best we can do. What you are being taught here is an amalgam of current prejudice and the choices of this particular culture. The slightest look at history will show how impermanent these must be. You are being taught by people who have been able to accommodate themselves to a regime of thought laid down by their predecessors. It is a self-perpetuating system. Those of you who are more robust and individual than others will be encouraged to leave and find ways of educating yourself — educating your own judgements. Those that stay must remember, always, and all the time, that they are being moulded and patterned to fit into the narrow and particular needs of this particular society.”
― Doris Lessing, The Golden Notebook

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Oh dear. Your offended.

Educating your kids differently? And then you say that no other country does it. I wonder why? Maybe because it isn't much good?

Oh dear,

Seems that you countries' education system wasn't quite as good as you imagined!

True

She probably hasn't even watched the videos i linked.

The reason why no other county has done it isn't because it isn't much good, it's because we seem incapable of changing our paradigms to that extent.

I suspect KB is an ancient white dude, at least 65, probably 70+.

I thought it was a woman!, LOL

OK, KarenBravo

I will just try to reply to all your posts here since i can't quote all the different things you have said.

I don't advocate that we shouldn't educate our kids, but that we should do it differently. See post #46 for what that means, in my humble opinion. And there ain't a single country in the world doing that.

Being educated in the west doesn't necessarily offer a better future. It is arrogant to think so. Asian people are doing fine, in case you haven't noticed.

There is more creativity here. More business owners. More entrepreneurs. People in the the west are largely owned by the system. They are told, "You can't start a business, you have to join a business". And they reply, "OK, boss!". Hows that for critical thinking, Karen? Their schooling as turned them into mindless drones.

Frankly, you can see way more clever thinking from Thais, than westerners.

Your whole attitude is arrogant: We keep our children here selfishly. We should never have had kid with a particular woman. We should never have married her. etc etc.

Why don't you just take care of your own family and stop judging others for having children in Thailand and not fleeing back to where we came from for so-called education.

Come down off your high-horse for a second. Did you fail your own child and that's why you have to attack us to make yourself feel better? Otherwise, why do you attack us?

I don't think there is anything wrong with going back west to have your child schooled. I don't judge you. I just don't see it as you do.

Oh dear. Your offended.

Educating your kids differently? And then you say that no other country does it. I wonder why? Maybe because it isn't much good?

I'm not talking about "Asian people", I'm talking about Thailand and the Thais. If you can school your kids in South Korea, Singapore, or Japan, countries where education is valued, then great. But, isn't it easier and less expensive to educate them in your own Western country?

More entrepreneurs? Yup....you're right. Lot's of people with noodle-carts etc. etc.

If there are all these entrepreneurs in Asia, where is the Asian versions of Microsoft, Apple etc. World class companies? Oh yes, they all come from South Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

In fact, I can only think of a single world class Thai company and that is the rather low-tech Charoen Pokphand.

Yes, I will judge you, because I know that if I had children I would want the best education that I could possibly get for them. And that ain't in Thailand, unless you go to an international school, and I would act accordingly. Shell out the dough, or, go home to my own country.

Funny how guilty feelings always turn into anger when a stranger points out that they're being selfish at the expense of their children.

I know you don't want to hear it, but, that's just tough. This is a public forum. Learn to use the scroll bar, if you must.

In twenty years when your kids are grown up and you look at them, you will know that I am right.

What's wrong with noodle-carts? They make decent money, don't you know? I know some making 50K+ with their own small food business. We don't need so many world class companies.

Classic. This just keeps getting better and better. You don't even have children, yet you are telling other members they shouldn't have married this woman and had kids with that woman. You blame them for their kids getting poor education because of their partner selection. And, you wonder why someone gets offended?

Please tell. Why don't you have children?

I don't feel guilty. My daughter has a standard of living and quality of life here, which i couldn't provide in my own country. All the people i know live in rough council estates and struggle on minimum wage. Where did their education get them?

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Oh dear. Your offended.

Educating your kids differently? And then you say that no other country does it. I wonder why? Maybe because it isn't much good?

Oh dear,

Seems that you countries' education system wasn't quite as good as you imagined!

True

She probably hasn't even watched the videos i linked.

The reason why no other county has done it isn't because it isn't much good, it's because we seem incapable of changing our paradigms to that extent.

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Most likely Vietnam.

Second choice...wonderful island in Indonesia, not Bali or Lombok, where the

provincial code goes by...NTT. It's my secret spot & I don't share secrets.

Selfish? Yes.

I love Indonesia. Something about it.

Don't worry, there is over 18,000 islands for us to share!

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Good on you, Linzz.

Someone who has actually seen the truth and acted upon it.

"...seen the truth...."

OMG, what rhetoric! alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20>

Far be it from me to judge anyone WB, just giving my experience as truthfully as I could from another country considering most posts here are from inside Thailand and asking for information regarding education inside and outside Thailand. I hoped it was a useful contribution, glad someone appreciated it

Yes Linzz, that's why I didn't say anything to you. Your posts seem non-judgmental and not what i would call rhetoric. I was talking to KarenBravo, not you.

Unless you are the same person with 2 usernames and that would be very sad.

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Good on you, Linzz.

Someone who has actually seen the truth and acted upon it.

"...seen the truth...."

OMG, what rhetoric!

OK, KarenBravo

I will just try to reply to all your posts here since i can't quote all the different things you have said.

I don't advocate that we shouldn't educate our kids, but that we should do it differently. See post #46 for what that means, in my humble opinion. And there ain't a single country in the world doing that.

Being educated in the west doesn't necessarily offer a better future. It is arrogant to think so. Asian people are doing fine, in case you haven't noticed.

There is more creativity here. More business owners. More entrepreneurs. People in the the west are largely owned by the system. They are told, "You can't start a business, you have to join a business". And they reply, "OK, boss!". Hows that for critical thinking, Karen? Their schooling as turned them into mindless drones.

Frankly, you can see way more clever thinking from Thais, than westerners.

Your whole attitude is arrogant: We keep our children here selfishly. We should never have had kid with a particular woman. We should never have married her. etc etc.

Why don't you just take care of your own family and stop judging others for having children in Thailand and not fleeing back to where we came from for so-called education.

Come down off your high-horse for a second. Did you fail your own child and that's why you have to attack us to make yourself feel better? Otherwise, why do you attack us?

I don't think there is anything wrong with going back west to have your child schooled. I don't judge you. I just don't see it as you do.

Any of Ken Robinson's videos are good to watch: https://www.ted.com/search?q=ken+robinson

The 2nd video is about the ADHD thing.

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My child's future is my child's future.

I don't think education is the most important thing in the world and it is up to the individual child anyway. There are a lot of no-hopers in the west. Maybe even more than in Asia, despite education.

Education is a means to an end and Thais are doing fine in terms of making money. Many salaries in the west are awful and most people i know can't get on the property ladder, nor save for the future (despite their so-called good education).

I want my daughter to be safe, healthy, and happy. It is my job to try to make sure this happens.

She already has more in Thailand (house and land) than she could possibly have where I come from.

So, what about her future? Who knows.

But I ain't gonna revolve her life around education. Frankly, it's overrated, in my opinion.

Happiness is number one. You can't buy it, nor study to attain it.

All people really want, at the end of the day, is a happy life.

That is all a parent should want for their child.

I have met quite a few utopian parents who believe children's happiness is above a well planned future. They do not encourage extra study at home. They do not force extra classes during 3 months holiday. They leave all reading, writing and early math to the lone teacher with 25 kids and 20 subjects to teach.happiness and rosey times. Until about grade 5. Then they bring them to the tutorial schools .wah wah my kid can't read. Wah my kid can't count. The kids of these families hold all the other kids up. They take up a lot of the teachers and other students time with all the help they need. My child is constantly put next to weaker kids to act as a kiddy tutor. Why. Because we worked everyday with our child in basic skills and the other parent let their child learn " the natural way "
All the kids that have worked really hard are held back because of their lazy parents.

I can agree with most of your points, i think.

I read to my daughter most days. She knows her Thai and English alphabets. Se can count well. I encourage her to question things and be creative. I don't scold her for thinking outside the box, even if it mean she has totally destroyed the living room, lol. I try to nurture any type of thinking she does.

A teacher's role is to encourage the child to use their brain, not tell them what to think.

She gets plenty of study at home, but i wouldn't put her in summer school. They need a break.

My daughter is only 3, by the way. She studies at a private trilingual school where I teach.

What i mean by my original post is: I will not jump on the band wagon to take my kid back west simply for education, which is what we hear a lot of people saying is the right thing to do. I think there is more to life than that.

Furthermore, education sucks worldwide. At the kinder-garden level, virtually all children are geniuses. As they go through our school systems they get dumber and dumber and dumber! In every country, by the way.

They are compared to each other with standardized testing. Their creativity is punished. The ones who learn differently get put on pills to calm them down. Have you noticed the more we standardize testing, the more ADHD cases there are? Hmmm.

And like someone else mentioned, the high-earners usually don't take the traditional school route. They think for themselves. They are creative. Schooling only prepares us to be indoctrinated servants, not thinkers!

And you should be glad your child is a tutor for his/her friends. It'll prove beneficial. Someone else mentioned this to you too.

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That's the Soi Seven Slider (SSS)

I think he lives in soi 7. I saw him come out of an apt on Soi 7 with a little help from his friends.... then once on soi 7, he started sliding out to Sukumvit with his cup.

He often looks for a small puddle to spend a bit of time in.

I am not judging or looking down on him or any beggars. In a country that has no laws (or enforcement of laws) for accessibility or awareness about people with disabilities and how many / most can often enjoy productive lives contributing to society, this is what the guy has come up with.

"He often looks for a small puddle to spend a bit of time in."

....my sides are hurting!

Troll.

What would you need lax cops for?

Maybe you were searching for a different term. Honest cops? Incorrupt cops?

My child's future is my child's future.

I don't think education is the most important thing in the world and it is up to the individual child anyway. There are a lot of no-hopers in the west. Maybe even more than in Asia, despite education.

Education is a means to an end and Thais are doing fine in terms of making money. Many salaries in the west are awful and most people i know can't get on the property ladder, nor save for the future (despite their so-called good education).

I want my daughter to be safe, healthy, and happy. It is my job to try to make sure this happens.

She already has more in Thailand (house and land) than she could possibly have where I come from.

So, what about her future? Who knows.

But I ain't gonna revolve her life around education. Frankly, it's overrated, in my opinion.

Happiness is number one. You can't buy it, nor study to attain it.

All people really want, at the end of the day, is a happy life.

That is all a parent should want for their child.

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If you can't raise kids at an age where you can enjoy all the activities with them as a Father, why the hell would you want to start when your old enough to be a Grandfather. Your kids will really look forward to School Sports Days when Mum and Grandfather come to watch. Do you have any idea of the ridicule your children will be subjected to as they grow up. Kids can be really cruel to each other.

Just wondering what activities you think I can't enjoy with my kids (I'm 60)?

This morning hiked 17Km in the mountains, with an altitude gain of 1Km, just under 4 hours for the return trip.

Last week went downhill mountain biking twice, 12Km, then 60Km. Normally I stick to cross country, usually around 40Km/day

As for school ridicule,

in Thailand entirely normal for kids to be brought up by their grandparents, many don't have parents at all.

in the UK, nobody even thinks about other people's parents age. House and car maybe, age no

Everyone is either bullied or a bully, that's how life is. Hair colour, skin colour, etc. the'll find an excuse if you let them.

"in the UK, nobody even thinks about other people's parents age."

They would if the father was 60 and the mother 25, that's for sure!