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On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 11:08 PM, otherstuff1957 said:

The only way to end the image of sex tourism is to end sex tourism.  They only way to do that would be a massive crackdown in Pattaya, Phuket and parts of Bangkok.

 

So, how would they do the crackdown? 

 

Shutting down the bars would just drive the girls (and boys) out into the streets.  Mass arrests of the girls who provide the services would be ineffective if it just resulted in a lecture and a 500฿ fine.  Sending the girls off to re-education camps wouldn't go down too well, so there seems to be no good way to cut off the supply. 

 

Demand, however, could to reduced to a trickle, by arresting a couple of thousand foreign sex tourists!  This action, however would have a very negative effect on the tourist numbers and income! 

IMO, the red light districts will be re-assigned, less raunchy or just bulldozed over due to the prime land.  Yes, been the talk for years.

But really, the real action is online and this Is the future Of p4p.

Sompong looks like he's about to crack a smile.  Wish more of the news would be of this variety.

I bet "the muscle" is trending now.

On 1/2/2017 at 6:33 AM, wealthychef said:

Sorry but I had to laugh at the reactions of the stupid people there.  "Hey, what the <deleted>?"  LOL  Let's go have a wild time in a foreign land with lots of drinking and crowds, what could possibly go wrong with this brilliant plan?  I have no sympathy, sorry. 

Yes, this monthly party has the potential to really get ugly and it does not need signs raining fire in addition to everything else.  But I remember the Songkran finale a couple of years back on Silom.  Wow, talk about the many ways people can get injured or killed.  Luckily I was on higher ground as you cannot see the roads due to the amount of revelers giving it one last shot.    

There are too many groups to keep track of you don't know whom to be wary of.

No sh!t sherlock.

You cannot say anymore these are outsiders as you have to wonder how many were amongst the recent wave.

You're toast Merkel.

12 hours ago, madpat said:

Plenty of time for him to get away after all he is still in Thailand and that rich kid car killer is still loose. International Arrest Warrants do they work?

I know you must be joking.  The rich kid is home grown.

2 hours ago, wlcart said:

It has been reported that Castro had sex with over 35,000 women, putting some of our Pattaya sexpats to shame.

Another Wilt...

Wow 50 pages in less than 2 days.

This is them saying if you want to stay - show us the money.

They're changing the rules to attract wealthy whales.  What else do they have in store to prevent "middle-class westerners" from staying.

And about "grandfathering", we're talking about Thailand right?

I was expecting this result from an F-OFF.  Sheesh, it's going to get to the point that one should stop conversing with them.

I guess it would have been ok if it was fashion week?

Also, you knew she was playing it by asking for a "bigger size".  Isn't that a faux pas within model circles?

7 hours ago, tropo said:

He has to get some points for calling it in. If he was smarter this could have been a murder investigation.


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True.  Strangely enough he might of even saved her life.  I guess the praying is similar to Catholicisms' confessions to rid himself of any demons or conscience.

But lets think for a second what was going through her head in this whole ordeal:  She almost dies from her fall, is paralyzed, then she gets violated.   Good luck to Ms Gavios, as she'll require many years of physical and emotional rehab.   

It would be nice to have gone after him in a civil lawsuit but probably would never collect and may even come out on the wrong side and be sued themselves.

Sexually assaulting someone in that state.  Sad state of society.

8 hours ago, Tony125 said:

Just shows you know nothing about exercise , his course shows you a shortcut to getting a 6 pack which for your information doesn't require endless hours doing crunches ! I am a subcriber to the course and here is an e mail I received about 20 mins ago: 

Tony...   This last week you may have noticed that you’ve been getting emails from me instead of Clark.   And I’ve put this off, because it has been extremely difficult for me to process the news, but I know that it’s time for me to let you know... It deeply saddens me to inform you that our SPS trainer, Clark Shao passed away last week from a motorcycle accident while vacationing in Thailand.   Clark was a phenomenal trainer, nutrition and fat loss expert, as well as very good friend.   You can watch the memorial video that our team made right here: Watch Now: In Loving Memory Of Clark Shao   I had the privilege of knowing Clark for the past 15 years, along with working with him here at Six Pack Shortcuts. He was an amazing person with a genuine soul.   During our time filming Six Pack Shortcuts 2 we got really close. He truly did inspire me to live life to the fullest and showed me how to never waste time from enjoying life, especially when it came to working out.   He also encouraged me to never limit myself on trying all different types of foods. In one of his last posts on Facebook, he was eating crickets and worms! Gah, I miss him...   But the point being, he really changed the way I view my own health and fitness. Every day that I've entered the gym since his passing, I feel his spirit pulsating through each rep that I do.   I truly admired him as a person. He was like a big kid who just loved life and knew how to enjoy every bit of it.   And I know that he influenced and impacted the lives of so many people, in a such a positive way.   Clark’s last workout video on the Six Pack Shortcuts channel can be watched here: Quick Hangover Cure - Hotel Room Workout   I hope to only continue his legacy by bringing you great content and advice to keep you motivated and help you achieve your fitness goals. He lived for changing the lives of guys like you, and I want to help you reach your goals in any way that I can.   “You will be forever missed, You will be forever remembered. You will always be in our hearts and never forgotten.”   My heart and prayers goes out to Clark’s family and his girlfriend Melisa.   We will miss you, brother. RIP.   Henry             P.S. The gym here at the Six Pack Shortcuts is now dedicated to Clark. This is the same place we took the picture above.   Check it out...

@Tony - I'll even expand on this as some ppl here think he's part of "this scheme" and getting cheques from YT.

To the best of my knowledge, he's not part of ownership other than maybe some perks as he was only an online contributor; they have quite a few.  I know the co-owner of the site had done a an online dedication to him.

Yes, ppl feel everything is a scam now and don't know how much dedication it takes to improve ones health through exercise and eating well.  The days of the informercial in the 90's in the wee hours with all the gadgets would come out with promises have been replaced with the internet, and YT is leading the way on how ppl are now training.  Yes, there are some individuals on there that have no business giving out advice but they hide behind a persona they've developed to gain their following.

Time to move on from this thread.  I hope in time the individuals affected by this tragedy time will find their peace.

20 hours ago, tukkytuktuk said:

Yes, your right, losing someone you know is painful and to have people talk about something they don't know the full facts to isn't very tasteful.

The money side isn't really the side that bothers me. It's the accident itself.

Why is there no news articles in Thai media about this?

Where was the accident?
What was the reason?
Which hospital was he sent to?

I can find nothing on this in Thai language on the internet.

Is there any evidence of this accident?

I think they're so desensitized that this is not really news anymore, they report on the biggies like buses and when numerous ppl are killed/hurt.  Someone posted stats once that about 26K+ die each year from traffic related accidents, and this is what is reported.  I guess the Thai media doesn't think much of his status either.

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Four points:

 

1. You say "...the donation part is the family's business..." , strange other postings indicate the donation process was started by the gym club friends.

 

2.  Again, if the family is so well off why are they needing donations? Transferring own funds from US to Thailand is very easy and very fast.

 

3. "Yes, many of us old hands know how it works here but just dropping a family that doesn't know the system into a situation like this and proceed as if they know the law of the land? " Unfortunately there are situations come up like this right across the globe every day of the week. Nothing new, nothing different in that. In such situations we need / would need to get on with finding the right 'process' and get it going.  

 

4. You say  .. know of him previously in regard to the Houston scenario.. (partly my words). But then you say things about being an old hand here.  ? 

I presume the family is going to use it on how they see fit.

That's not my concern and I don't know why people are fretting over it.  You'd be surprised still how many people are seriously in the weeds here.  Case in point the numerous questions asked daily on TV on matters that one should know prior to coming here or pretty much anywhere else in the world.

Yes, you're correct on that and I agree.  But there are still those that are not prepared and apparently they were not.

I'm not following that last one as those were separate statements that I've made.  I was just referring that I was an acquaintance of him and the ref on the "old hand" is how someone that is more familiar would react in a similar situation.  Similar to the answer above.

I didn't want to come off as a "fanboy" or "white knight" when I first posted.  It's just tough when families lose someone unsuspectingly in a foreign land.  I know, it happens all the time as it has happened in my extended family many years ago.  But, reading the thread and some of it's post was harsh.     

On 10/26/2016 at 4:28 AM, amykat said:

  First, everyone who knows Clark always, and only, mentions his two sisters when they speak about the "family" themselves.  Next, if we "know someone" we should implicitly trust them and if their loved one has died we are not allowed to question their motives or the appropriateness of their actions according to you?  Yet, they are asking the public for money so that means by default that we don't know them.  They are asking to pay for a death in their family and some "other unspecified stuff".  That opens the door to allow questioning of their motives and the appropriateness of their actions.

 

 

Well if you had read all of the thread it seems we have figured out that the girlfriend is fine and doesn't seem to need funds.

However, read what you wrote and think about it.  They have raised $103,500 as of now plus there is a nightclub fundraiser going on that won't be included in that number.  Don't you think the public should have some idea exactly what the money will be spent on?  Do you really believe "whatever they need it for is not relevant?"  So if his sister decides she wants to drive his $150K Jaguar when she returns and needs to make the payments for the next 2 years with the money from this fundraiser, that is fine with you?  How much did you donate?

On 10/26/2016 at 4:28 AM, amykat said:

 

 

 

What's with all the conjecture??  I need to answer a hypothetical situation, really?

I'm not like cuddly feely with them, just wasn't good with that people were implying scam.  Do people have proof of this??  I've only said this 3 times now...

I guess it's pretty standard on how it works on TV.  Hey, I've been guilty of micro analyzing and finger pointing myself on here, so par for the course.

Don't overly fret so much about money and who has it and who doesn't, since how does it make your life any better or worse?  I could care less how much people have.

If you want to dissect my posts then go for it.  Maybe I'll even click like to them.

Good luck guys, hopefully we can banter back and forth on a more light hearted subject.

RIP Clark!

On 10/25/2016 at 11:52 PM, scorecard said:

 

 

I suggest what has prompted some negativity is the mention that he lives in very luxurious accommodation, engages in very expensive activities, flies first class to the other side of the world, holidays which requite funding, but when he passes away his gym buddies ask for a public handout to get his body home.

 

Essentially, if he could afford all the luxury it would seem very very inappropriate to ask the public for cash for return of his body, funeral at home, etc. Plus, Is a gym boy really such a high profile stand up highly contributing person in terms of building a balanced and fair civil society? Seems doubtful. 

 

As already mentioned it's a bit surprising that his family haven't already posted something to clear the air. But of course their call.

I hope you were not referring to me as "his gym buddy", as it was more being offside on posters slamming the family and deceased; this was mentioned earlier.  The donation part is the family's business and I have no idea what kind of expenses they have as I'm giving the benefit of doubt that they're in tatters and are taking advice and not using this to their benefit.  Yes, many of us old hands know how it works here but just dropping a family that doesn't know the system into a situation like this and proceed as if they know the law of the land? 

I was surprised how the media portrayed him as if he was a so called "celebrity" and now the public are up in arms because of this label.  I don't know what his balance sheet looked like as I just knew he was active in Houston and was only a contributor on that site, as outside youtube and Houston he was a relative unknown.  If I didn't know of him previously, yes, maybe I'd be siding with many on here, but I did know of him and this is the reality.   

On 10/25/2016 at 11:38 PM, Wilsonandson said:

What did he do and where?

The pics posted within this thread of him and a buddy sitting on scooters drinking beers.  It's almost as if that was part of a service announcement of what can happen but without the actors.  Not implying he was drunk but still pretty rotten judgement if this was the case. 

On 10/23/2016 at 6:55 AM, scorecard said:

 

 

Agree, plenty of folks in this world who have really contributed to society, I would much prefer to support them rather than someone who is 'strong' and likes attention.

Quotes taken out of context.  Taking it easy is referenced to the family, deceased and injured.

Yeah, it was stupid what he did and the pics are no help.  I'm not even sure if he had insurance it would help as it probably would be void.

It was an expensive lesson and he's now a statistic... 

I remember moderators used to warn posters of such stories that friends and/or family may be reading the responses and to try and keep it civil. 

On 10/23/2016 at 1:52 AM, F4UCorsair said:

That you knew him Is Irrelevant to the effort to raise $100K through gofundme.

I think If the family could afford to fly to Thailand, they can afford a liocal cremation, and send the ashes home In the cargo hold If that's so Important to them.

 

Unable to edit typos or capital 'I' (eye).

Yes, because I knew him is irrelevant, I only mentioned take it easy since ppl are claiming scam on the family.  Not really fair considering they've lost their son.  If you didn't know him fine, but if you knew someone that had passed away then you'd be less inclined to question them.

About the gofundme, I'm unsure what their situation is but we don't know what exactly is going on behind the scenes since this may include the girlfriends' care??  Whatever they need it for is irrelevant and no one has to donate.

Scanned the responses of the thread, so much effort on the intricacies of "cremation and 6 pack abs is a scam".  I guess haters are going to hate.

I'm also having problems responding/editing on here, especially through a device. 

Take it easy guys, I knew him as an acquaintance.  Very fun loving and physically strong person as he was one of the on line contributors to a very popular you tube site.

I'm in shock to say the least.  Hope his girlfriend is ok.

Condolences to his family.   It really hits home when you actually know them.

RIP Clark.

You cannot even make this up it's so bad.  He's right up there with the mother and step dad if I recall that did horrific things to a child.  Just wipe these types out.

Though this part is tame in comparison, nice DD by those insurance companies.

Surprised this has made news here.  I currently live in Scarborough (Toronto) and this is weird but this is probably why this was reported.