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4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Getting back on topic - why on earth are the most obvious brexiteer MPs prepared to support the eu/may deal - just because she has said she will resign if the eu/may deal is passed?

I seriously hope the few genuine leave MPs will 'stick to their guns'.  It may be of no use compared to the obvious vast majority of remain MPs - but they will be supported by those in their constituencies.

Because some of them live in the real world eventually.

3 hours ago, nahkit said:

Why should any Brexit supporter have to explain the actions of TM? Are Brexit supporters responsible for her?

They are not responsible for anything.

11 minutes ago, superal said:

If her failed policy is Bercow proof and allowed to be voted on again the new in favour voters are just as bad and untrustworthy as TM .  There was a vote not too  long ago on the " No Confidence  for TM " as PM so why was she not ousted then ?   How do we get rid of current day politicians who seem to be untouchable .           Reckon there is going to be an even bigger demonstration this week end in London .  Also " Question Time " may be worth a view tonight / tomorrow .

No 'no confidence vote' for TM has been passed. What is difficult to understand about that?

7 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Being kicked out of the EU 12 March or latest 23 May.  I prefer the last, as then more British industies have time for under EU cusatoms regulations for transfers of machinery etc. to migrate to continental EU.

Can only have the May 23 date if the Theresa May motion passes this week.

6 hours ago, Basil B said:

And the results:

All of the above were voted down,,,

Where do we go from here???

Extension probably.

17 hours ago, Basil B said:

Waste of time there is a binary option on the table, Vote for my deal or go to hell (out with no deal).

I am sure the EU would not have extend Article 50 had they thought they were going to get more of TM's crap.    

The two Extension periods agreed with the EU precisely fit in with the current difficulties.

49 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Not saying Bercow would be wrong to give May a third bite at the indigestible BRINO cherry, just that I hadn't realised the Speaker wielded so much clout. Just proves ignorance isn't bliss!

The clout wielded comes from that of the history of Parliamentary precedence. 

48 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Sadly..a lot of tourists for their own reasons DO NOT see fit to buy comprehensive travel insurance before leaving their home country!!@

 

Those not buying insurance are but a subset of those not paying their bills. There are many more with insurance who are still not covered for their pre-existing ailments.

4 hours ago, KarlS said:

 A relatively small increase in the price of a tourist visa would cover any healthcare costs.

And that would be gamed by every seriously ill falang cheat going. Thoroughly naive.

11 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Getting back on topic - why on earth are the most obvious brexiteer MPs prepared to support the eu/may deal - just because she has said she will resign if the eu/may deal is passed?

I seriously hope the few genuine leave MPs will 'stick to their guns'.  It may be of no use compared to the obvious vast majority of remain MPs - but they will be supported by those in their constituencies.

Waving at a departing bus.

2 hours ago, Basil B said:

Being glued to the BBC news all evening, it is electric in Westminster. 

In the event, bit like watching a 0-0 draw.

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That sounds about right .

Could you stay here and explain things to Chomper , he doesnt really understand whats going on 

Ok. After I have finished sorting you lot out will get on to it toute suite.

6 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It would be really interesting to see how a new PM is being picked; whether they pick a strong PM with a clear and compelling agenda or someone that merely lobbies for Brexit. If I was a citizen, I would be pretty sick that politicians keep dancing around Brexit while no one is dealing with actual issues. 

Not going to happen until a Withdrawal deal is passed, so no need to worry about it for now. Elected by Conservative Party MPs. If you were a citizen you would be making a cup of tea.

7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

One man’s kamikaze pilot is just another man’s freedom flyer.

How's the Leave Party organisation coming along? I hope we are all invited. No-deal Brexit March 30 now going long at 6/1.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sacrificing the British ecomy, jobs, the nation’s international standing - yeh that’ll help things along.

That's an Ad hominem.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Until this week Brexiteers and very specifically Rees-Mogg and the ERG were vehemently opposed to TM’s deal, it was RM told us worse than remaining.

TM’s deal has not changed.

So how does TM offering to resign make her deal more acceptable?

A logical explanation from any Brexit supporter welcome.

She would not be leading the negotiations for future relations with the EU and the opportunity for a more pro-Brexit PM to lead the second stage.

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

There will be more talks/negotiations with the E.U in the future after this agreement has been agreed upon 

That's right. The future relations eg trade with the EU.

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

That doesn’t answer the question how Theresa May’s resignation changes her deal. Brexiteers rejected her deal; they didn’t say “what a great deal it is, too bad it comes with the wrong PM.”

Its not a binary decision in the end. It is a consideration of the alternatives.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Like there are as a full member state.

But if Brexiteers argue, and they have, that the EU isn’t listening then your explanation is welcome but doesn’t cut the mustard on why TM’s deal suddenly becomes acceptable if she resigns.

A ceremonial sacrifice always helps things along.

21 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Isnt Bercow an anti Trump , Anti Brexit lefty ?

Former Conservative Party Member of Parliament. Arsenal FC Supporter.

27 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Wow, I am sure that will upset him.. NOT

Yes. He will send them a thank you note.

My advice for those considering going for an O-A visa is to allow plenty of time for the process. There are potential hold-ups on the road. The OP has discovered this.