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Let's not forget the ASEAN strategy for mobility of ASEAN Tourism Professionals kicks off next year. While the tourism organizations and industry will benefit from this, the Thai Tourism Professionals will not.

August 4th is the start date for Payap University in Chiang Mai.

I was toying with applying to Payap or any other similar CM uni to do the business management degree. I need to get a new passport as the current one is full. I won't arrive back into CM until August 2nd and I read that there is a three week lead time for international students to get the necessary approvals.

Can I do that and start the course late?

Or is there another CM uni that I can start in September?

You can apply now. Pay the 6,400 baht deposit and Payap should issue you visa and acceptance letters which are needed when applying for you education visa. Payap can email you these letters.

Technically, someone working, with a work permit and visa can study; however, a student with an education visa can not work.

Even student internships done by international students in Thailand is frowned up by the Ministry of Labor. Although, the Ministry of Labor often ignore this because the Thailand Ministry of Education often dictate internships be included in undergraduate degree programs. It's also a free source of labor for Thai businesses since interns in Thailand don't normally get paid.

I would say go to Walen. They can probably create a class for whatever your Thai abilities are.

Is it any wonder that the university grads are so sadly lacking, one only needs to look at the quality of the grade & high school education programs!!!!!

I think the difference between an international program and a Thai program is international university teachers fail their students if they don't pass their classes. The ones that do finish and have decent GPA's are quite capable graduates.

About accreditation, for a degree in any country to be valid, it must be approved by the government body that regulates education in the country where the institution of higher education is located. For Thailand, the Ministry of Education accredits all degree producing programs.

Harvard University recognized a degree from Payap University as meeting the prerequisite of having a bachelor's degree to study for a master's program. The London School of Economics also accepted a Payap degree. Two different countries and two very well respected institutions of higher education have accepted a bachelor's degree from a small university in northern Thailand.

If that's not enough, there are 30 universities in Thailand that are approved by the US Department of Veterans Affairs. The US government has approved the use of the GI Bill (earned by US military veterans) in institutions located outside the United States here in Thailand.

So in reality, it's not about accreditation at all. It's not an issue because most universities in Thailand are accredited in one way or another that is internationally accepted around the world by the most respected international institutions. It is, however, about image. Institutions of Higher Education in Thailand have an image problem that needs to be addressed along side the educational improvements many Thai universities have already started on. There is still plenty of room for improvement but at least the improvements have started.

I have a couple of perspectives some might not have considered.

The original article mentions a publication as the source of the data. That source says almost 96% of the international students come from countries that are not in the west. Therefore, most international students studying in Thailand are Asian.

Also, with many top western companies actually all over Southeast Asia and the rest of Asia, there is a good bet their source of labor also is Asian. With the Free Trade Area created by ASEAN, students from ASEAN countries don't necessarily have to graduate from any particular ASEAN country to be hired in the other ASEAN countries by these top western companies.

One more interesting note worth pointing out, 2 of the graduates from the International Business Management bachelor's degree program at Payap University just got accepted to some very nice universities in the west. This makes me feel like Thai degrees are recognized and respected as legitimate degrees just as much as any school in the United States. One of the girls is going to Harvard University and the other girl is going to the London School of Economics.

Also, many of the western students are working full time in their country after graduating from Payap. I'm sure this is true for Assumption which has more than 2,600 international students studying along side 16,000 Thai students in these same international programs.

There are many stereotypes about Thai universities and many of them are justified; however, many of the international programs are adopting western standards and those stereotypes don't apply anymore to these schools.

I think the Burmese workers started the rumor. haha...kidding

Immigration is a science that if properly executed, labor shortages can be properly managed.

About the 3rd category (former Burmese citizens) and 4th category (also Burmese citizens), I believe it is referring to Burmese citizens (as is mentioned in the opening post) who in the past may have been blacklisted from entering the country for "whatever reason" and have made a life for themselves abroad. What's seems odd to me is they refer to them as Burmese citizens but are included as a category which need to apply for permanent residency. Burmese citizens should not have to apply permanent residency. Are they now 2nd class Burmese citizens? Why would anyone come back to Burma if they are automatically going to be discriminated against?

Perhaps the announcement might read better if it said people of ethnic Burmese decent who are now citizens of another country and who wish to return....etc.

Either way, I think this is good for Burma (Myanmar) and wish them the best of luck.

I love the Dukes...all of them...Ragu too!

No effect. It started out really good but then they let CNN back on the air. Now we're back to crap news stories again.

I think Snowden should be in jail for the rest of his life. He is a traitor who released secret information during a time of war. If he doesn't get executed, he will be very lucky.

I don't think supporting a child is an option for a visa in Thailand. I could be wrong though. Some of the other TV folks might know.

Do you guys even know how much Microsoft Office even cost? If you knew, maybe you would buy it too. If you only use MS Office occasionally, then maybe the pirated version is better. However, if your entire existence depends on it, the paid version is noticeably better.

Yes, here are the latest prices from that other outfit we all use, but still love to hate:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Microsoft%20Office

Expensive for what you get, especially considering that the excellent Libre Office, and Open Office are FREE, and contain all the essential features, including the ability to create documents in PDF. It all started when the head guy at Sun Microsystems (R.I.P.) decided to stick it to MS and put out a full featured Office program free to the world. he should have gotten a Nobel Prize for doing that. Instead, he got a hostile takeover.

I never asked for it, but the three laptops I have purchased in Thailand all came pre-loaded with bootleg MS Office. (Full Photoshop, too!) However, I have always used and preferred to use Open/Libre Office.

That is one price. Another price for university students is 79.99 or $1.67 a month for 4 years. Compared to how much MS Office use to cost, this is really cheap.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/university/

And Open Office can be used on a mac or pc and it is free.

Comparing open office to MS Office is like comparing an Indian made Tata car to a German made BMW. If you're only going to drive your car to the corner store then the Tata might be ok. But if you really need to do some serious driving then the BMW is probably the better choice.

You are right though, it is free. Free is definitely cheaper than $1.67 a month. Tatas to BMWs or Open Office to Microsoft Office..to each his own. Microsoft has definitely introduced a competitive pricing model that will sway some to actually purchase a subscription plan MS Office 365. With billions of computers running pirated or actual programs, that small number of pirated MS Office users that might switch because of this could mean billions in revenue for Microsoft. Now office can run on I-Pads, Macs, Surface tablets and PCs.

Microsoft is back!

Do you guys even know how much Microsoft Office even cost? If you knew, maybe you would buy it too. If you only use MS Office occasionally, then maybe the pirated version is better. However, if your entire existence depends on it, the paid version is noticeably better.

The new Microsoft Office 365 for university students only cost 54.16 baht ($1.67) a month for 4 years. It can be used on a PC or a Mac.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/university/

Do you guys even know how much Microsoft Office even cost? If you knew, maybe you would buy it too. If you only use MS Office occasionally, then maybe the pirated version is better. However, if your entire existence depends on it, the paid version is noticeably better.

Thank you Scott!

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Payap University International College in Chiang Mai is looking for an Accounting and Finance Lecturer to teach in the undergraduate program, "International Business Management".

For more information please check out the ThaiVisa classified add here.

http://classifieds.thaivisa.com/employment/offering/accounting-and-finance-lecturer-274904.html

You need a masters degree to teach at university in Thailand unless you're helping out in the intensive English program or something like that..

Right, but some unis allow students to work in admin jobs while studying there.

That is true.

All Thai rice farmers have 4 or 5 other sources of income. Fruit trees, growing garlic, growing mushrooms, raising fish or frogs, etc. This is common.

Please step in Thai army. I want to see something else in the news. I'm really bored of the protest. End the madness.

I can't think of anywhere in ASEAN where non nationals have rights to buy land.

No need to guess. ASEAN is one of the most transparent organizations I know. It's a great example of what a government should be, if it was one. Everything is online but I found the links for you so now you only need to read.

ASEAN Investment Area (AIA) Council (Click here)

ASEAN Comprehensive Investment Agreement (ACIA) (Click here)

ASEAN Compehensive Investment Agreement Reservation List (Click here)