mcm991

You should check out the new Boontavorn too.

They sell 2 good brands of Kitchen and will sort it all out for you.

KVIK is a Danish brand that is quite reasonably priced and Abolute a higher end brand.

Homikitch is custom ... which means you can have anything you want - but for a price. Remember ...... it is made to order but they still use particle board for the carcasses. Up to you if you think it is good value or fits your needs.

Give these guys a call.

They will put you in touch with the resouces you need.

http://www.suanprung.go.th/eng/

The land around Huay Sai and Mae On is getting really expensive now .......... I wonder how much of this donated land will come onto the market shortly ?

Next time, wash it down with a bottle of 'London Pride'.

It will be even better.......

Try Thai Conch.

www.thaiconch.com

I think they are the best quality for the money. (vastly superior to Winsor) But double glazing is special here...... you will pay........

There are plenty of vendors for solar hot water in Thailand, and prices aren't too bad - a professional, pressurized system with vacuum tube collectors and insulated tank costs about 39K for 150L, 43K for 200L (plus install).

However, as noted, not everyone uses a lot of hot water in TH, so even at these prices, ROI's still might not work out.

In our house, we have two systems (one used daily in our main house, the other in the guest house used rarely) - payback time for us will be about 5 years. However, if we only used it for our main house, payback time would be only 2-3 years.

We have daughters that like hour long showers though, and a 2 person whirlpool bath that uses a ton of hot water though

Please PM me if you know of any companies in the Chiangmai area who sell systems for that price.

I've been quoted almost double that...... mind you I'm looking for a split system.

When?

Been closed for ages.

I'll second that.

He fixed one of my kids laptops - the screen was coming away from the body.

Nicely done and reasonably priced.

I had another thought (sorry): In Bangkok, having a drink after work also makes sense due to the insane traffic: Like I can go home at 6pm, and I may only get home by 8pm or whatever. Or I could go for a drink and a snack with some friends/co-workers for an hour, and STILL be home at roughly the same time. Or to put it differently: going all the way home, then back out again means spending a whole lot of time in traffic, and spending the price of a couple beers anyway.

Now for Chiang Mai, this applies much less: when my co-workers go out there is really no 'penalty' for just going home, taking a shower and tarting up a little and then just go wherever in town they want to go. This means less need for an 'after office hours' place. (though when my wife worked near Nimman that was a little similar for her.. it's an insane area traffic wise. So if you're ever going to find something similar to Thong/Lor Ekamai then I would say Nimmanhaemin, also because it's an area that has some offices but is also known for the (mostly local, mid to higher-end) nightlife)

So the answer would very likely be Nimmanhaemin; going up and down the sois should find something of a 'Thonglor-Light' in terms of a casual mostly Thai oriented pub / wine bar, but also food, etc.

Phew! Do I win this topic?

Yes.

Interesting comments. Thanks to all.

I guess CM is not BKK ... or any big city really.

Once in a while I miss the big city feel. Next time I do... I'll have a look at some of the places mentioned.

Or jump on a plane to Bangkok......

Going to give this topic one last shot: What would be examples of places (specific places or areas) in Bangkok that would fit your description?

Based on that I might know of whatever is the closest approximation in Chiang Mai.

(Specifically if you're talking primarily an expat place, or mostly Thai, or mixed.)

Thanks Winniethekwai.......

It is not such a big deal..... I'm going to try the Beer Republic next opportunity ... it sounds like a nice place.

I guess my reflection on Bangkok is not realistic compared to a city a 10th of its size.... that's ok.

I was thinking of any number of places in Thong Lor or Ekamai and even to to a degree for Happy Hour downstairs at the Erawan.

Usually a good mixed crowd... although Erawan can be more expat.

Thanks for all the input .... almost all has been very appreciated.

^^^ yep, as common office work pays between 12-30K per month in CM, I have found many office types (based on clothing and proximity) go for the open air cheap beer and BBQ. places.

exactly.....they're not doing 200 thb pints of import taxes....they aren't doing 250 thb mini-pizzas.....they will do some Leos/Changs and some Thai snacks. Really not rocket science. Spending a half days pay to go out for a few after work kind of defeats the purpose of going to work.

In my first post I made the comparisson to Bangkok. There does seem to be a segment of the Thai population who are on much higher wages than the average office worker.

And there are a good number of spots where there is a pretty good mix of locals and expats out for an after work drink.... at prices significantly higher than your average Chang Garden.

Perhaps because CM is a more regional city.... these demographics do not really exist in meaningful numbers.(both Thais and expats)

.... and before my resident troll jumps on me...... it has nothing to do with finding girls...... it is just a different vibe to meet up with friends in such an atmosphere.

Guys you're missing the point. Read between the lines. He's trying to score women on low wages and does not want to pay bar fines similar to those chasing uni students. If he works in an office the natural thing to do is to tag along. He clearly does not work in an office. As you know Thais of specific demographic tend to go out in groups and stick together. He will stand out like dog's testical sitting alone at a table looking around. "Another cheap farang looking for easy sex". If you know what you're doing you don't need to ask people for advice. Put some effort into it and find out for yourself as most of us have buddy. They'll see through your scam pretty quickly. Lol

No..... not everyone is like you. ... I'm a happily married man.

There was nothing between the lines in my post. It said exactly what it said. Nothing more.

Interesting comments. Thanks to all.

I guess CM is not BKK ... or any big city really.

Once in a while I miss the big city feel. Next time I do... I'll have a look at some of the places mentioned.

Or jump on a plane to Bangkok......

Curious to know where the office crowd go for a drink after work in CM?

In Bangkok I can think of a dozen places to hang out for a drink after work....... with professional people and office folk going for a beer or a wine or cocktail before heading home.

You know the places I mean....... not the cheapest in town - not full of backpackers or tourists or farang barflies. And not the cutting edge trendy places for the kids either.

More the mid 20's to 40's after work bunch.

Is there even such a demographic in CM ?

Thanks for all the info.

I'll take a look at the 2 places mentioned.

I've seen the range at Home Pro / Global .... can't believe electrical contractors go there to source their supplies.

It seems far too 'retail' for lack of a better word.

But then again ..... this is all new to me here.

Cheers.

I'm presently building a house and need to get all the electrical bit and bobs.

Switches, plugs, wire, light fixtures and pots, circuit breakers etc.

Anyone know a good electrical supply house in Chiangmai?

Homepro and the like are quite expensive and I need to get hold of quite a lot of stuff.

Many thanks in advance.

MCM.

It would be interesting to hear loonodingle response to this, if we believe the footage and the date stamp is genuine, he could not be on the island, could he ?

Has this pic been discussed already?

Uni pic.jpg

Is this not the one people claimed the furniture was not as it would have been on the date in question? It's not so easy to find this pic online anymore and I would be interested to hear an explanation about that door, if anyone has one...

Photoshop by a monkey.

Yes you are wrong, I want justice and if Nomsod did it, let him rot in a prison.

But so far theres no real evidence and I hate to see a bunch of conspiracy theorists on a forum dig up all kind of material from internet and social media sites. If you believe B2 are innocent, theres plenty of suspects out there. Bring them to the limelight if you have any leads that will help the case.

As an expat living in Thailand I use Thaivisa to read about daily life and activities and we all have opinions about whats going on in this beautiful kingdom. This murder case is serious , nothing to joke about but this focus just on one person , Nomsod is not helping the case forward.

My position is clear. I believe the Burmese are innocent for the many reasons I have stated in several posts previously, one of which is that they would have been grassed up by the locals on the following day together with the withheld CCTV from AC bar had they been involved.

That leads me to one possible conclusion. The withheld CCTV could have implicated other suspects - suspects that have been protected by the RTP, or more seriously, ignored, while a case was made to implicate the two scapegoats chosen to stand trial.

It doesn't need much consideration to reason that maybe family members of the AC bar could have been implicated, and that was the rationale for the initial RTP General to consider Nomsod and Mon as suspects, stating there was enough evidence to place them at the scene of the crime. When he was replaced on 23rd September, the emphasis shifted to arresting suspects PDQ, possibly with political pressure from above not to pursue one or more of the powerful family members. Eventually, both of them were cleared by the RTP - whether the 'clearance' has any validity, is unknown here.

I don't know if Nomsod is a brutal killer, but I do think he was at least involved as a witness to what occurred (because he ran away, or did not give himself up from BKK once the RTP labelled him as wanted for questioning). This is the latest situation that has remained static, and will continue unless by some miracle the Burmese are found to be not guilty. Without new revelations form defence witnesses, the case will rest on the defence dismantling the DNA evidence - that could be tough.

On another point, the person (forget who,) who is seeking justice on behalf of the Burmese along with Andrew Hall welcome TV posters support, and states that several points raised have been useful to the defence.

I hope the above provides more clarity and rationality than 'conspiracy'.

Again you assume he was on the island and not in Bangkok the whole time.

Which is just speculation since there are no witnesses , except a running man video which could be anyone. I am not saying it's impossible but I would be very surprised if he really was on the island that night. Very surprised.

All this is speculation, the focus on nomsod has been like a witch hunt in the social media.

The boy has been cleared , his mistake was that he had an overprotective father and he should have done the DNA test earlier, although that would not been accepted as evidence by you guys anyway.

See what I mean Balo?

You are fixated on Nomsod........ all your posts rush to his defence.

I don't know for sure either where he was ... but I do know that the evidence presented is very flimsy and needs substantiating in a meaningful way.

So many loose ends and serious questions about this crime .........

your interest seems entirely devoted to Nomsod.

What is with this passion for the boy?

What on earth are you talking about Balo? My post has nothing at all to do with disrespecting the victims.

I think you and Nomsod are close.

Almost all your posts over the last months are directly trying to defend him. Not his family, not the RTP, not the other nasty characters in this sordid affair.

Just Nomsod.

If he has info that helps his cause ..... let's get it on here. The exisiting data makes his case of being in BKK at the time of the crime very suspect. If he was not on KT then proper evidence is required. Let's hear it rather than the usual bollcks that he was cleared by the RTP..... which is meaningless to anyone with an IQ over 10.

If you say this you must be a troll , I dont think a thai boy in his 20s has much in common with a 48 year old white man living in Pattaya .

But its funny to read anyway when coming from a true conspiracy theorist.

Apologies if I'm wrong .... you just seem so fixated on the boy. Maybe its a death in venice kind of thing.

Carry on insisting that he was in Bangkok all the time .......... that seems to get you a lot of mensa awards around here.

Yes you are wrong, I want justice and if Nomsod did it, let him rot in a prison.

But so far theres no real evidence and I hate to see a bunch of conspiracy theorists on a forum dig up all kind of material from internet and social media sites. If you believe B2 are innocent, theres plenty of suspects out there. Bring them to the limelight if you have any leads that will help the case.

As an expat living in Thailand I use Thaivisa to read about daily life and activities and we all have opinions about whats going on in this beautiful kingdom. This murder case is serious , nothing to joke about but this focus just on one person , Nomsod is not helping the case forward.

Happy New Year Balo and indeed to everyone else here.

The vast majority here are only looking for justice. For the killers, the victims and and for any innocent bystanders.

You have chosen to believe the official line and not question all the other 'elephants in the room'.

I can't do that....... it is not about conspiracy ........ that is too easy a label. Especially if anything not from the mouths of the RTP is considered a conspiracy. Surely, if you live in Thailand...... you know it is often not so simple.

Great , bring me into your fantasy world , the fascinating world of conspiracies.

It just shows that you have no respect for the victims in this tragedy , who asked for some peace before the trial . Their life will not get better if they have to read all the nonsense posted online.

What on earth are you talking about Balo? My post has nothing at all to do with disrespecting the victims.

I think you and Nomsod are close.

Almost all your posts over the last months are directly trying to defend him. Not his family, not the RTP, not the other nasty characters in this sordid affair.

Just Nomsod.

If he has info that helps his cause ..... let's get it on here. The exisiting data makes his case of being in BKK at the time of the crime very suspect. If he was not on KT then proper evidence is required. Let's hear it rather than the usual bollcks that he was cleared by the RTP..... which is meaningless to anyone with an IQ over 10.

If you say this you must be a troll , I dont think a thai boy in his 20s has much in common with a 48 year old white man living in Pattaya .

But its funny to read anyway when coming from a true conspiracy theorist.

Apologies if I'm wrong .... you just seem so fixated on the boy. Maybe its a death in venice kind of thing.

Carry on insisting that he was in Bangkok all the time .......... that seems to get you a lot of mensa awards around here.

mcm991. Your post leaves me a bit cold. You think balo is friends with Nomsod. And you think Nomsod is involved in the crime.

If so do you think its commendable to cover up for a murderer ?

Yes ... I do think that Balo is friends with Nomsod.

No. I do not believe in any cover ups and it sure smells of a cover up from where I stand.

But I would welcome any other information about the night of the crime, no matter its source. There are so many missing pieces. Any new info can be assessed on its merits.

(I have no idea about Nomsod's involvement. But there sure are many questions that need answering in a convincing way if we are to believe his innocense)

Great , bring me into your fantasy world , the fascinating world of conspiracies.

It just shows that you have no respect for the victims in this tragedy , who asked for some peace before the trial . Their life will not get better if they have to read all the nonsense posted online.

What on earth are you talking about Balo? My post has nothing at all to do with disrespecting the victims.

I think you and Nomsod are close.

Almost all your posts over the last months are directly trying to defend him. Not his family, not the RTP, not the other nasty characters in this sordid affair.

Just Nomsod.

If he has info that helps his cause ..... let's get it on here. The exisiting data makes his case of being in BKK at the time of the crime very suspect. If he was not on KT then proper evidence is required. Let's hear it rather than the usual bollcks that he was cleared by the RTP..... which is meaningless to anyone with an IQ over 10.

Given the information that Hannah's and David's parents have the information contained in this older article, it is even more bizarre to read that they announced being satifsfied with the investigation done bt the RTP: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11102860/Two-brothers-questioned-over-backpacker-murders-in-Thailand.html

Here, again, mention of wounds on David's hands, indicating a struglle and a fight. To imply that the two Burmse dwarfs escaped a fight with a man of David's stature without a single scratch is just insane.

One who had injuries at about the same time was:

Sean is a key witness!!!!

...while aother person (Nomsod) bought a full week in absence what is ample time to heal minor scratches, bruises and cuts.

Btw. this is the same trick intoxicated Thai drivers use when killing someone in an accident. Run away first and turn yourself in at the nearest police station one or two days after, when sober.

The RTP and mafia apologists will find it very hard to explain why the mafia brat was hiding for a full week. It is one of the hundreds of facts they can't make go away.

You talk like he was on the island, a full week in absence from what ?

We have no witnesses that can confirm he was on the island. According to your theories that is because they are too afraid to speak .

But we do have cctv footage of him in UNI and teachers that can confirm he attended the class. No bruises to heal , no cuts to heal , no minor scratches, its all in your imagination.

Balo, I'll assume from your contant defence of Nomsod that you are a close friend of his.

Other issues of this case seem unimportant to you.

Your loyalty in commendable ....... but I wonder if you could ask him for his take on this all ... and post it for us all to see.

So many inconsistancies and doubts ........ all point fingers directly at him and his family.

I for one would like to hear his explanation other than what has been previously said. So many loose ends that need clarification.

Tell me again ...... Why was Sean's guitar full of blood splatter?

To me that is a big red flag.

But maybe he is just an awful musician.

Shame that nobody thought to ask him properly. D'oh!