.png.3b3332cc2256ad0edbc2fe9404feeef0.png)
mcm991
-
Posts
296 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Downloads
Posts posted by mcm991
-
-
If the hair sample had been tested in a U.K. pathology lab, the results would never have been "inconclusive". Especially when you know they had the root.
I'm not sure how they can use the words inconclusive anyway when they established that it did not belong to either Hannah or David. Thats pretty conclusive right? Now all they need to do is compare it to all suspects past and present in the same way they compared it to the victims, oh wait forgot, its missing.........oooops so an unidentified killer walks free
The inconclusive reference is simple, it's not matched to an individual, but in the realms of your thoughts you could say it is deemed conclusive in regard to the deceased DNA profiles. At this stage there is no need to progress further as alternative evidence exists to bring a case against the two men currently on trial.
I'm pretty sure you'll find the prosecution have finished their case and as yet we are still waiting for this evidence that you allude to. By the way, you say there's no need to progress with the hair comparisons. Your right there as its one of the items that is missing from the prosecution shopping trolley. Its the turn of the defense now.
Lets hope we don't find further evidence of neglect from the investigation because not pursuing such a significant piece of evidence that was in the clutched hand of Hannah is unforgivable and yes my opinion is there is an unidentified killer or killers on the loose.
Thailandchilli, yes it's great you have the dedication to pursue these avenues of thought, but please note comments like 'we don't find further evidence of neglect' cannot be construed as a valid point, given you, or the B2 Brigade are not part of the investigative team and have no input to the outcome of the case. We are all sat on the outside looking in, being fed snippets of information via twitter or other minor news agencies.
Don't be so patronizing. It is not an attractive quality especially for a one post wonder.
Unless of course you have multiple identities here which is I'm told against forum rules. Wink wink
-
Hi all,
Can I add to the conversation as I have had my clip taken down that in the video it clearly states that Mon says that Sean McAnna went into the Lotus Bar with blood on his face and body around the time David and Hannah died. This is the same man with similar wounds to David. The same man who fled the island. The same man that was so terrified of what was happening he contacted the embassy and sky news to save his hide. You can judge what you will from this but his character is flawed. He has been convicted for a heinous crime that involves underage children, so he has shown he is a filthy piece of trash already.
Why did they let him leave the island??
Any ideas anyone. That is open to All inc the doubters
Ps. if anyone can help with the subtitles addition I would appreciate it so I can get it up and it will stay up. (you know what I mean..ha ha )
My memory is not as good as some here.
Please remind me ......
When Sean was hiding in 7-11 with Mon trying to console him with his colleague ......
Sean posted on FB ... 'Owner of AC Bar did it.'
He then carried on with other posts of how his life was in danger etc.
What did he mean when he said 'The owner of the AC Bar did it'?
It is quite a specific comment given the timing of events and his current predicament when he posted.
Strange as it sounds, I actually believe most of what Sean says. Soon after he said (in effect. I don't have the exact words in front of me), "the owner of AC bar did it", Sean qualified that by saying something like, "I'm not saying he did the crime, but am saying if I'm found did, he's the one who killed me."
I think if Sean did the crime, RTP and the H's family would be glad to nail him for it. Indeed, Mon tried to implicate Sean (but it apparently didn't stick). By RTP letting him go proves (to me) that he wasn't actively involved with the crime. Would sure be cool to get him on the stand, but that's near impossible, plus his life would be in real danger if he showed up. Next best would be a notarized statement by him describing all he knows, but that's also unlikely - particularly in lieu of the almost-certain promise he must have made - to keep his mouth shut. Additionally, it's doubtful the court would give any credence to a written statement by Sean. As far as the H's family and RTP, prosecution and the court are concerned, Sean became a non-entity as soon as he left Thailand - and they want to keep it that way.
Well, since we are on a break from the trial anyway, we can spend a little time expounding theories again.
My view ... Sean was involved that evening. I don't believe he was the killer but I think he was much closer than than he admits.
He knew David and possibly was hanging around with his guitar. He may even have been doing Mon or NS or possibly another boy a favour by getting closer to the 'the blond chick', so the locals could come get closer and make friends. I've seen that ploy a hundred times, when I was young and handsome ...... send in the farang boy to start chatting to the girl ... then the locals have a way of joining in the festivities without seeming too lecherous.
But I think it got out of hand in a big way. The local boy was spurned and lost it and all hell broke loose.
Even Sean was injured in the melee but escaped with his life ... just.
David was butchered while trying to defend Hannah and it all went bad.
I don't believe his injuries were from a bike accident, the one wound is the same as those found on David. Same for the blood on his guitar
Too much of a coincidence.... and I don't believe coincidences like these. Sometimes it really is a duck.
Anyway, I have to wash the dishes now. And no AleG, you don't have to comment. I know you don't agree with me.
-
Why would they, his whereabouts has been validated, unless you can confirm otherwiseWill the Defence call Nomsod to the stand just for a few questions and put him under oath to say where he was on the night of the murders.
Running Man videos. They show Nomsod. Mon tried to stifle every bit of evidence showing his nephew on the island, but those were a very busy two days and he must have missed the CCTV showing NS, or else he didn't have control of that camera, as he has control (and/or influence with owners) over nearly every other camera in that vicinity. There are likely other proofs of NS being on the island and possibly being involved with the crime, but there are concerted sustained efforts by certain parties to snuff out any proofs. Have you been paying attention?
Good evening, documented proof shows the individual you have named to be in Bangkok, therefore it is logical he cannot be in the CCTV data, As an individual you appear to have an unnatural fascination with the two persons you keep referring to. Fact, they have been cleared by the RTP, fact they are not part of the current court case, fact, the constant deliberate attempt to deflect from the current topic is not helping us members seek a rationale understanding of the case.
You are hilarious.
-
Nobody knows who committed this crime, unfortunately, so there is a possibility it could be the B2, or someone else, nobody actually knows at this precise moment,
Wrong, there are probably at least 20 people who know for sure who committed the crime. There are are culprits, and quite possibly some people they're closest with. It would be very odd if none of the real culprits told (or hinted to) anyone else. And there are myriad indirect ways of telling people. Some examples: "hey, you gotta help me launder (or burn or bury) these clothes, they're covered in blood. Don't ask me how it happened. Ok?" or "mom, don't tell anyone what I just told you." or (to the boat driver) "Don't breathe a word of what happened, about this boat trip or anything to anyone, or you're dead. You got that?"
I think you are correct that many people probably know for sure who committed the crime. Most have no motivation to reveal what they know. Those who would like the real villains caught, and know for sure who they are, probably cannot prove it. Say I had seen a local hard man come in agitated and covered in blood, seen him clean up and even carried out a conversation with him about what happened. What would I do about it? Have I any proof? I know what would happen if I approached the local police (a key part of the island mafia). In a Thai context, any attempt to report it off island would be useless. The press would not touch it unless I could provide concrete proof, though a brief report mentioning the allegations would be filed when my body washed up on the beach a few days later.
I am sure more than one person is wrestling with his/her conscience over this. Few would be willing to risk their lives in a fruitless attempt to see justice done.
for all we know some people may have already come forward and reported what they know to the authorities, do you actually think we would get to hear about it, there are several people that have already left the island now untraceable who may have either been threatened - paid off - or permanently silenced.........take your pick
I still wonder about the Frenchman who managed to commit suicide by hanging himself with his hands tied behind his back.... shortly after the murders.
I recall a couple of our regular local posters here, who shall remain nameless, went to extra ordinary lengths to explain the most unlikely ways this could be accomplished to the point of dark comedy to me.
The effort they went to to insist the suicide was legit immediately set off alarm bells that it probably was not.
But maybe I'm a little jaded by now.
-
just the wounds caused by a man wearing a certain ring while he was raping a girl on koh tao long time ago.....
remind you something ?
Looks like road rash from falling off a motorcycle to me.
I think you should put the source of the picture to maintain some sanity to this thread. In all honesty..
the link (CSI LA) and the face book page of the girl are not allowed by the mods, BUT the girl didn't mention motorbike fall ... well a rape
"she escaped from the guy who tried to rape her buy jumping from a balcony. The photo is showing wounds she got after the jumping"
Yes replied to you. I can see how she got the injuries from falling/sliding down the concrete to make her escape. Thx. Yes what a nasty piece of work. This is the thing we don't know who did what. we only know there has been a single person we could attribute anything to and that's Sean McAnna. He had injurys. He named the killer. He spoke in past tense not the present or future.
Exactly. He posted in the past tense.
I've always thought no matter how looney Sean is/was ..... sending him away after having a quiet chat was one of the first signs that things were not going to go well for truth and justice.
I'm convinced he has some or all of the missing pieces.
Sadly, he is far too cowardly to stand up and be counted - or his hands are very dirty......... either way, too bad.
-
My memory is not as good as some here.
Please remind me ......
When Sean was hiding in 7-11 with Mon trying to console him with his colleague ......
Sean posted on FB ... 'Owner of AC Bar did it.'
He then carried on with other posts of how his life was in danger etc.
What did he mean when he said 'The owner of the AC Bar did it'?
It is quite a specific comment given the timing of events and his current predicament when he posted.
-
....... snip......The fact that Mon claimed to be the running man is already highly suspicious, because, whoever you may think it was, it most obviously wasn;t him, so why would he claim it was him? Was he trying to protect a couple of strangers?
These are questions the shills just ignore because they can't spin it. Or they will say - bad reporting, lost in translation.
"The fact that Mon claimed to be the running man" your fact is not a fact, it's one more of a long list of unwarranted assumptions made by armchair detectives.
Perhaps people should stop derailing a thread about the real court case into their whodunit games, again.
No, it was widely reported, but that answer I expected from you. No I will not cite any sources for you, feel free to accuse me of not backing up my posts with facts, but I have nothing to prove to you, good day!
If you actually have an interest justice you shouldn't be so sloppy about facts, because that's how innocent people end up paying for things they didn't do.
.
Beautiful, AleG. You made me smile.
Now go and look up irony in the dictionary ....... there's a good lad.
-
Yes, if "no proper conditions were observed and recording the samples" then it can be seen how that would affect the validity of the results.
Your second point, I'm still waiting to hear how semen from the men on trial would had been planted inside the body of one of the victims, AKA evidence "concocted at the collection point".
It's all fine and dandy to throw around baseless speculation... why, no it is not in a case like this, but I digress. It's another to actually construct a credible, substantiated argument to explain things.
The later is hard and I can see why some people would rather give up, declare the truth is what they want to believe anyway and be done with it.
Such a terrrible pity that all that DNA was 'all used up' so nobody can actually verify, examine, restest or question the results of that sample ......
(it's like a kindergarden excuse only not as believable. Typical samples retrieved from rape victims are usually sufficient for several thousand tests. You just can't make this stuff up. You'd need to have the mental agility of a 2 year old to believe this story as told.)
The samples were made available for the defense to retest, they refused.
Cite:
And cite:
Now let's see who is the next one to pretend not to know this and repeat the meme that all the DNA was used up...
From your own quote ......
'On Thursday, police forensic expert Kewalee Chanpan told a court on Samui island, site of the trial, that all genetic material tested in a lab was replicated and saved, but that it deteriorated over time.'
I'll need to invoke the knowledge of the posters here who are more familiar with DNA testing ......
but to me this 'wasn't used up' thing has morphed into plan B which stinks as much.
'Genetic material was replicated' - IMO directly from Star Trek. What is this replication that you speak of?
and
'but that it deteriorated over time' casually makes DNA out to be like yoghurt that has a best before date.
Is this forensic expert for real?
Are you comfortable with this explanation AleG?
Perhaps I am misinformed about this whole DNA thing ... somebody please help me.
-
Not trying to be smarter than the rest but just asking:
What is the value of any DNA evidence and retesting if "no proper conditions were observed and recorded in obtaining the samples"?
DNA test results may be basis for conviction only if there is "no way it can be concocted at collection point".
Yes, if "no proper conditions were observed and recording the samples" then it can be seen how that would affect the validity of the results.
Your second point, I'm still waiting to hear how semen from the men on trial would had been planted inside the body of one of the victims, AKA evidence "concocted at the collection point".
It's all fine and dandy to throw around baseless speculation... why, no it is not in a case like this, but I digress. It's another to actually construct a credible, substantiated argument to explain things.
The later is hard and I can see why some people would rather give up, declare the truth is what they want to believe anyway and be done with it.
Such a terrrible pity that all that DNA was 'all used up' so nobody can actually verify, examine, restest or question the results of that sample ......
(it's like a kindergarden excuse only not as believable. Typical samples retrieved from rape victims are usually sufficient for several thousand tests. You just can't make this stuff up. You'd need to have the mental agility of a 2 year old to believe this story as told.)
-
Not trying to be smarter than the rest but just asking:
What is the value of any DNA evidence and retesting if "no proper conditions were observed and recorded in obtaining the samples"?
DNA test results may be basis for conviction only if there is "no way it can be concocted at collection point".
Yes, that would be 100% true .... in most countries.
-
I understand the young man you have named has been cleared of involvement, through telephone records and video releases and no doubt personal witness statements. I for one cannot imagine someone committing this crime and then hastily arranging fast boats, plane tickets and be back in Bangkok early morning, just does not seem comprehensible, to some extent goes against pure common sense.
For starters, the only mention of phone records by RTP/prosecution in the 11.5 months since the crime was ONE MENTION in the early days of the trial. And that solitary brief mention was to try and bolster Nomsod's flimsy alibi. RTP prosecution witness claimed NS's phone was used on monday morning in Bkk. As far as I know there was no time mentioned, nor who was called. However, NS's phone being used Monday morning, anytime after 9 am means nothing. It would add nothing to the whodunit of the investigation. It's already been shown that a young man in a hurry can get from the island to Bkk in roughly 4 hours (if using a plane and a fast boat), and the crime wrapped up by 5 am.
In a general sense, the dearth of phone evidence from RTP shows one or both of the following:
>>> They didn't think to ask for it or look at it (similar to how they didn't bother looking at potentially crucial CCTV) or....
>>> They looked at it but didn't like the data because it implicated people who should be shielded, so they stuffed it.
There are reams of other potentially useful data which RTP dealt with similarly.
I can. It's easy to see how that can be arranged. Indeed, he may have already had a return flight to Bkk. He's a college student. If he went to visit his family for the weekend, which many college students do, then he would sensibly already have a return flight - in time for an exam on Monday morning. As for a fast boat: imagine if you grew up on a small tropical island which had several fast boat drivers and their boats. Is it not likely that you'd know many or all of them. If NS did the crime, his uncle would be key component in helping in any way - to cover it up, even if the uncle wasn't directly involved in the crime. We don't know, but the uncle did say it was himself shown in Running Man video. Odd for a 45 yr old man to be running around half naked at 5 am, isn't it? ....and even odder that he claims to be a person who looks like a skinny 19 yr old with mannerism and gait just like his nephew.
Boomerangutang, what you say is all feasible, but in reality if i had an exam Monday morning, i certainly would not be spending 4 or more hours travelling, i would be tucked up in bed Sunday evening after spending the weekend revising for the test, that's somewhat normal, although some students do enjoy the party life. That video is so poor it could have been multiple people, fact. People need to move on from this train of thought, it's become so repetitive, same question, same answers over and over again, sure you can agree on this.
Boys Book .. or whomever you really are ... you arrive late on the scene with a total of 17 posts to your name. All of them firmly in the Roti sellers camp.
At the moment you don't seem to have any credibility as an expert on anything other than defending the BiBs.
Please try not to lecture the people who have spent a great deal of time becoming familiar with the nuances of this horrible affair.
People don't need to 'move on from this train of thought' because there is good reason NOT to move on from it.
Be grateful that the mods are tolerant of your infantile trolling ...... Many here would not be.
-
Boys Book is clearly a troll and entertaining to engage in much the same way as I enjoy debating with my friends toddler.
But it does get tedious very quickly.
I would hope the mods take a good look at his I.P. trail .... this is a new incarnation of a familiar posting style.
-
I expect the RTP will have undertaken due diligence and obtained call data during the investigation, standard protocol. The general public will not have been privy to the information, which is a good move given the amount of speculation it would cause.
To expect due diligence from the RTP after what we have seen during this investigation and particularly during this court case is beyond belief.
They have presented no evidence whatsoever to support the case that these two Burmese guys committed rape, never mind murder.
None. Nada. Zilch. Plao. Zero.
NOTHING.
Again, as has been said many times on this forum, we are not privy to all the information. Media coverage is very limited at this stage, predominately via Twitter from what i have observed, and that seems to have slowed lately. We simply do not know the full details or facts, of the investigation. I expect when the trial reaches conclusion, a lot more of the investigative results will be available in the public arena.
Perhaps then you should stop speculating and spreading unfounded rumours:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/849310-koh-tao-murder-trial-reconvenes-in-koh-samui/?p=9788992
I understand, again from verbal dialogue, the Ace Card was from a female witness, which was outside the planned sequence of witnesses. The evidence seems very comprehensive, but reporting of the trial was from the defence, the prosecution respected the courts demands of no external communication, yes, no external reporting by media or social means, that's why many local newspapers dropped there interest.
When did the court demand that there be no reporting of this case?
-
that would be a normal line of enquiry in any investigation, all calls are logged with numbers times dates duration and IMEI, there won't be many cell towers/base stations on the Island I would guess 4 to 5 depending on terrain as they are line of sight, it will not identify the caller unless the phone is registered, if a persons number is known it could then be linked to the IMEI from the cell data
I expect the RTP will have undertaken due diligence and obtained call data during the investigation, standard protocol. The general public will not have been privy to the information, which is a good move given the amount of speculation it would cause.
To expect due diligence from the RTP after what we have seen during this investigation and particularly during this court case is beyond belief.
They have presented no evidence whatsoever to support the case that these two Burmese guys committed rape, never mind murder.
None. Nada. Zilch. Plao. Zero.
NOTHING.
Again, as has been said many times on this forum, we are not privy to all the information. Media coverage is very limited at this stage, predominately via Twitter from what i have observed, and that seems to have slowed lately. We simply do not know the full details or facts, of the investigation. I expect when the trial reaches conclusion, a lot more of the investigative results will be available in the public arena.
It has been said many times by YOU.
I believe that any important evidence presented at the trial has been reported publicly. It is a public event despite the restrictive conditions.
-
I was reading something earlier how the police were able to go through phone data in vicinity if the shrine and track down the bombers .
I wonder if the police should do the same at koh tao it could produce evidence of persons in the area times of calls etc.
that would be a normal line of enquiry in any investigation, all calls are logged with numbers times dates duration and IMEI, there won't be many cell towers/base stations on the Island I would guess 4 to 5 depending on terrain as they are line of sight, it will not identify the caller unless the phone is registered, if a persons number is known it could then be linked to the IMEI from the cell data
I expect the RTP will have undertaken due diligence and obtained call data during the investigation, standard protocol. The general public will not have been privy to the information, which is a good move given the amount of speculation it would cause.
They collected cell phone data, it was mentioned in one of the articles during the previous hearings and in the final report from the judge that ruled against giving the confidential investigation report to the defense.
"22. The Report describes the approach adopted by the MPS in preparing for its inquiry. It then addresses the details of the crimes. It chronicles the events leading up to the discovery of the bodies. The Report sets out in detail the steps taken by the RTP in investigating the crime and in pursuing suspects and leads. It provides an account of how evidence was collected such as the performance of mass DNA testing, the identification and retrieval of CCTV footag from across the island, and the retrieval and collation of cell phone data etc. It describes the autopsy results. It records the third party witness evidence collected."
The bold text is yours.
Mine would look different.....
It provides an account of how evidence was collected such as the performance of mass DNA testing, the identification and retrieval of CCTV footag from across the island, and the retrieval and collation of cell phone data etc. It describes the autopsy results. It records the third party witness evidence collected."
I suggest the account it provides is a shoddy one considering they mention the retrieval of CCTV foootage in the same sentence ..... and we know how thorough that has been.
I'm pretty sure if damning evidence was obtained by cell phone data collection, it would have been the centrepiece of the prosecutions case. Lord knows, with one day left, they have presented nothing of any value so far.
-
that would be a normal line of enquiry in any investigation, all calls are logged with numbers times dates duration and IMEI, there won't be many cell towers/base stations on the Island I would guess 4 to 5 depending on terrain as they are line of sight, it will not identify the caller unless the phone is registered, if a persons number is known it could then be linked to the IMEI from the cell data
I expect the RTP will have undertaken due diligence and obtained call data during the investigation, standard protocol. The general public will not have been privy to the information, which is a good move given the amount of speculation it would cause.
I don't think anyone was asking for the general public to be made privy but the court should be in any investigation that has been done with due diligence. It has not been reported from the court thus far so my guess is that this was probably not carried out but I could be wrong or they forgot to drop the logs in the shopping trolley
Most likely was reported in the court, simply the defence did not want to release this snippet of information as there would be no gain for them.
With all due respect to the Mods ... when people post nonsense like this in a volatile thread such as this, they deserve a caning from somebody.
It is deliberate baiting or an exhibition of unfathomable ignorance considering all the information made public regarding the trial so far.
-
I was reading something earlier how the police were able to go through phone data in vicinity if the shrine and track down the bombers .
I wonder if the police should do the same at koh tao it could produce evidence of persons in the area times of calls etc.
that would be a normal line of enquiry in any investigation, all calls are logged with numbers times dates duration and IMEI, there won't be many cell towers/base stations on the Island I would guess 4 to 5 depending on terrain as they are line of sight, it will not identify the caller unless the phone is registered, if a persons number is known it could then be linked to the IMEI from the cell data
I expect the RTP will have undertaken due diligence and obtained call data during the investigation, standard protocol. The general public will not have been privy to the information, which is a good move given the amount of speculation it would cause.
Well ... they did not examine the murder weapon or have a look to see who may have left the island shortly after the murders, so I can't imagine why they would have looked at call data.
Why would you 'expect they undertook due diligence'?
-
Do you mean that you want a school that teaches the British curriculum or a Thai school that has an English language program?
-
Not very surprising though, that was the missing evidence from the prosecution case so far.
As for the defense not wanting to retest it, to me it is rather telling. If as they claimed they have evidence that contradicts the results I don't see why they would refuse to have the retest done, either it would come back as a no match and that would put the prosecution case in disarray or it could come back as a match and then the defense could show their evidence proving it as being wrong, either from an error in the investigation or due to actual malice, either way it would again be extremely damaging to the prosecution.
Their refusal to have a retest tells me that whatever they card they may have to play is not enough to counter the DNA evidence of the prosecution, hence the refusal.
You keep repeating this but it is totally illogical. Let me try to make it simple. The BiB have 2 DNA samples ( x and y) from different parts of the crime scene. They say they are a match and are one of the defendants (z). For the prosecution x, y and z all need to be the same and need to be what they say they are. The defense only needs to show one of these is incorrect. They don't need to test all 3.
Let's see if I can unravel what you are saying.
The defense agreed to have some items retested, if I remember correctly the murder weapon and some bloody clothes and of course the DNA from the defendants; they refused to retest the DNA found inside the rape victim.
So lets call X the hoe/bloody clothes DNA, Y the one from the victim and Z the one from the defendants.
As things stand now they have X and Z to compare with each other, if there is no match between them, or if there's DNA that matches someone else it does not follow that Y is a no match with Z and therefore the case has no merit.
No. That is incorrect. The DNA from the victim was 'used up'......... or lost or the dog ate it ... Can't remember which.
I think that has been pointed out to you quite a few times, yet you insist on bringing it up on an almost daily basis.
-
A lot of very new posters today with only a handful of posts to their names.
All of them seem to be firmly on the side of the Roti sellers.
That's not suspicious in the least .......
-
Deja vu all over again regarding the Bangkok bombs .......
Head of the Erawan deadly bomb explosion investigation expressed confidence that the bombing was not the work of Thai perpetrators while the possibility of involvement by foreign-based group is not ruled out.
He said he was certain no Thai would be so cruel to carry out the deadly attack on their fellow countrymen.
I know it is off topic ... but where have you heard that before ?
Why is it, when Thai police chiefs make announcements, it's like they're addressing a roomful of kindergardners.
Xenophobia with a capital Z !!
I see it almost every day.
-
Deja vu all over again regarding the Bangkok bombs .......
Head of the Erawan deadly bomb explosion investigation expressed confidence that the bombing was not the work of Thai perpetrators while the possibility of involvement by foreign-based group is not ruled out.
He said he was certain no Thai would be so cruel to carry out the deadly attack on their fellow countrymen.
I know it is off topic ... but where have you heard that before ?
-
If you are going to correct people at least try to have a passing acquaintance with the facts. The "all DNA evidence is used up" disinformation has already been disproved for weeks. The defense was allowed to retest all the DNA evidence, including the one from inside the body of the rape victim:
Besides that, you just made up the "fact" that the defense has a non-match of the DNA, didn't you? If not provide a cite for that claim. Also those other pieces of evidence that you say there's no need to retest, they have already been sent to retest:
Funnily enough, I am the one being accused of telling "porkies".
That's incorrect. the DNA samples had been used up or lost. That's factual. What was remaining was the profiles. I think you need to be aquainted with the facts. If you read the reports from court it is made quite clear that the defence counsel doesn't need any more re-testing on what's left. He has enough to prove the B2's innocence. That's also a factual statement.
And yes, you may not be telling porkies, but you don't have any grasp on factuality.
I noticed something distinctly lacking on your response, citations; that being third party account that supports your claims; you know, like I did to disprove your claims.
Even your own post disproves your claims, this "the DNA samples had been used up or lost" directly contradicts this "the defence counsel doesn't need any more re-testing on what's left", which one is it? all gone or something left?
So go on then, where is your source that there are no DNA samples left to test and that the defense has already obtained a negative match... presumably as compared with those DNA samples that don't exist, nice feat that.
I see that in a subsequent post you complain about people posting misinformation... so once again, you claimed the defense already has DNA results that clear the men on trial, source?
Yell AleG can you explain this
Mr Chomphuchat said that the alleged murder weapon, a garden hoe, which had never been properly forensically examined by police, and some clothing found at the scene
Why in nearly a year have the police failed to forensically examine the murder weapon FF Sake Why????? Can you in all your days tell me why???
Cut your cr@p digging and tell me WHY oh WHY oh Why.......
You cant can you..... Nobody can....... Nobody knows...... The weapon that was handled by the KILLER NOT tested forensically.
Maybe it was .... but they did not like what they found on it.
-
Notice how, now that the "irrefutable" DNA evidence has been shown to have more holes than Swiss cheese, that a damaged phone supposedly belonging to DM and purportedly found near the residence of the suspects have suddenly become very "damning" evidence. And yet you know who claims that others are grasping at straws
The defense was offered a retesting of all the DNA evidence, the one from inside the rape victim in particular, they refused. You call that a refutation?
<deleted>!!
I can't believe you actually thought you were going to get away with that one .......
Koh Tao murder trial reconvenes in Koh Samui
in Koh Samui News
Posted
No .. the actual trial will reconvene in a few days.
Just using the time between sessions to go over some pieces of the story that make some people very uncomfortable.
No need for you to stay up late refuting everything as we have some new posters who have taken your job in this regard.
(although I do wonder how these new posters are so familiar with all the tiny details of this case yet somehow have never posted at all on this forum until this week. go figure ..... )