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16 minutes ago, amvet said:
You didn't mention that Jerry Jones (from Arkansas) and his whole team stood for the American National Anthem. That was stood not knelt.
Then knelt before the Anthem and then stood up to show respect to America while the Anthem was played.
Yes. They made their statement gloriously before the Nationalists had a chance to attack.
"The Dallas players all kneeled with owner Jerry Jones and his family before a giant American flag was unfurled,
drawing some boos from the Cardinals fans."
"They rose arm-in-arm just before the singing of the anthem."
"The Cardinals gathered on the goal line as a team, some of them locking arms, during the anthem;
Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell and his family and general manager Steve Keim joined them."
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/sep/25/jerry-jones-dallas-cowboys-players-kneel-national-/
Is arm-in-arm gonna upset you?
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32 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:
It's irrelevant that most players didn't do it? this is just histrionics by millionaire players so why the highlighting of this minor event?
The inept one in the White House "highlighted" "this minor event" at one of his Mussolini-esque rallies.
32 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:oh wait... it feeds your bias I almost forgot!
Don't even know what that means...
44 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:
Roger Goodell, salary 45m, will do as he's TOLD
Still waiting, for your response to this:
Are you saying he was told to support the team's protests? By whom?
( thereby implying some sort of conspiracy)
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22 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:
Yup the facts don't fit so just divert as usual
Facts as related to the thread topic?
I don't see them.
Please feel free to elaborate.
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17 minutes ago, amvet said:
The owners by and large are a white, conservative group of billionaires, several of them big-dollar donors to President Trump. They have generally discouraged their players, about three quarters of whom are African-American, from anything that overshadows throwing passes and making tackles.
The public demonstration of unity and support may be short-lived.
The owners’ decision to go with the players at least this time struck some as a fallback to protecting the league brand. League executives, however, said they had minimal involvement in the owners’ or players’ actions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/sports/nfl-owners-unity-protests.html?mcubz=3
NYTimes? Well done.
Good to see that you are ignoring the gibberish from the occupier of the White House and are reading it.
From your link:
"It is certainly true that some owners, most notably Arthur M. Blank of the Atlanta Falcons and Stephen M. Ross of the Miami Dolphins, have tried through charitable work to address the many thorny problems around racism, poverty and policing."
"It took a rebuke from Mr. Trump to compel many of them to choose between remaining silent or publicly siding with the players."
"Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, keeping with his preference for dramatic flourishes, went further than any other owner when he knelt with his team before the national anthem for his team’s game with the Cardinals in Glendale, Ariz."
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13 minutes ago, amvet said:
Like I posted above which you chose to ignore,
" Blacks have many legitimate complaints and it is understandable that they protest."
You should have stopped there.
But, you were compelled to list your primary opinion and judgement first. (seen below)
I ignored your touching caveat to this drivel:
28 minutes ago, amvet said:Black people are opportunistic when it comes to protests and will jump on any bandwagon that happens to be passing by
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17 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:
Don't let any facts spoil your diatribe
Don't let my post send you off on an unrelated tangential rant on Black Lives Matter...
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10 minutes ago, amvet said:
The numbers of posts change as posts are removed. So post #212 may be seeable or may have nothing to do with the discussion. So kind of silly to post numbers eh?
Roger Goodell the Commissioner of the National Football League and the NFL owners supported the protests.
What else ya got?
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8 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:
Roger Goodell, salary 45m, will do as he's TOLD
Salary irrelevent and a display of bitter envy.
And just making things up.
No, wait, are you saying he was told to support the team's postests? By whom?
This is getting interesting... a conspiracy...
8 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:BTW more players didn't do it than did but you don't mention that in your normal PC daily postings
Irrelevent. See post #212.
11 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:your normal PC daily postings
Typical myopic, marginalizing by the acolytes.
Also, Irrelevent.
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8 minutes ago, inThailand said:
What would happen to you if you went to work and decided to email your views on the shooting to all the company's customers?
These football players are on the job when on the field, they can express their views outside of the workplace.
See post #212.
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7 minutes ago, amvet said:
They are protesting the guy who beat Hillary and is now President.
See post #213
7 minutes ago, amvet said:Why did you think black athletes are disrespecting the American National Anthem
They aren't.
8 minutes ago, amvet said:Black people are opportunistic when it comes to protests and will jump on any bandwagon that happens to be passing by
Ignorance personified.
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38 minutes ago, habanero said:
People on here blaming Trump for this controversy. It all began under Obama's watch
But, but, but, Hillary, But, but, but, Obama.
38 minutes ago, habanero said:How soon we forget or choose to ignore..
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43 minutes ago, FreddieRoyle said:
It is essentially an overt display of black supremacy which is very divisive.
Hyperbolic, bombastic blather.
43 minutes ago, FreddieRoyle said:Hope Trump comes down hard on these team owners, I can think of a few ways he can do this - threats to look into their tax returns with a telescope for starters
We know who's tax returns are being reviewed for money-laundering, fraud and tax-evasion as we speak.
Ouch!
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1 hour ago, amvet said:
It has nothing to do with football or the National Anthem.
Nor does Hillary, or the protests.
It's all in the Nationalist's minds.
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1 hour ago, amvet said:
Hillary tried to make the last election about race and gender bias but blacks didn't vote. The 7-percentage-point decline from the previous presidential election is the largest on record for blacks. Blacks did not come out and vote for Hillary. Now everybody who didn't vote has a case of guilt feelings and is trying to use other avenues to attempt change like football stadiums.
The time to change leaders is during elections in the voting booth not at football games when big dumb guys are supposed to run around in tight pants and butt heads.
Get over it. You all lost and the media is trying to stir up a frenzy for ratings and you are dumb enough to buy it.
The time for change is the next election not the next sports contest.
But, but, but, Hillary...
Once again the dwindling minority of parroting acolytes are in a frenzy,
and display their obsession with the winner of the popular vote.
They are consumed by this fact.
They weakly seize every opportunity to inject their anxiousness into any thread.
Get over it.
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2 hours ago, habanero said:
The NFL and its teams are privately owned. They are not constrained by the principles of the First Amendment.
And Roger Goodell the Commissioner of the National Football League and the NFL owners supported the protests.
What else ya got?
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1 hour ago, amvet said:
I don't agree with you and you throw the race card eh?
I don't really think of myself as racist.
Do you consider the "quotes" you provided, listed below,
that you claim you heard in "interviews with the players" that you "listened to", not racist?
amvet said:
1. Dude's a chump.
2. Jive turkey.
3. I didn't vote vote but if I did it would not be fo dat honkey.
4. The next 64 interviews were non verbal.
No use of "the race card" there?
P.S. How is an "interview" non verbal ? Hand signs?
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13 minutes ago, amvet said:
After thoroughly reviewing the topic and listening to interviews with the players who showed disrespect to the American National Anthem here are the results of my private opinion poll.
1. Dude's a chump. 2. Jive turkey. 3. I didn't vote vote but if I did it would not be fo dat honkey. 4. The next 64 interviews were non verbal.
I basically agree with your assessment that the reasons the football players did not stand were baseless, hyperbolic gibberish.
I think you'd better go lie down.
These delusional, bigoted, stereotypical voices that you hear in your head,
are frighteningly manifesting themselves onto the printed page.
Unless of course, you could produce evidence of these "interviews with the players" that you "listened to."
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9 minutes ago, USPatriot said:
More white males are shot by police than black males.
Nice try.
Yawn.
Whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population.
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6 minutes ago, sanemax said:
You may as well inform us as to why they did it then
Nope.
That should be your objective,
before posting absurd nonsense about "Coups", "Hillary", "Smart PC folks" and "scapegoats."
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11 minutes ago, amvet said:
The poor sports who can't stand the results of our electoral process are trying to scapegoat the current legal administration into a coup.
Baseless, hyperbolic gibberish.
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19 minutes ago, amvet said:
The whole point of kneeling is to show disrespect to the electoral process that got Trump elected and not Hillary.
Why else do it? It is a firm statement about not liking democracy if the results don't go your way.
Smart PC folks are supposed to win or the results should be reversed by constant shows of disrespect.
What a pile of facile parroted disinformation.
Absolutely ridiculous.
"Why else do it?"
If you ask a question like that, then you are simply uninformed as to why it has occurred.
It has nothing to do with yours and the rest of the acolytes' blinkered conclusions.
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NFL, Roger Goodell respond to Donald Trump's 'divisive' comments
"The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture."
"There is no better example than the amazing response from our clubs and players to the terrible natural disasters we've experienced over the last month," Goodell said in the statement."
"Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/09/23/donald-trump-nfl-roger-goodell/696145001/
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Monday Morning QB: Response to President Trump Made Roger Goodell ‘Proud of Our League’
"NFL commissioner Roger Goodell sat monitoring the second half of the late-window games in the NFL’s officiating
command center."
“The way we reacted today, and this weekend, made me proud,” Goodell said. “I’m proud of our league.”
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NFL players, owners come together to denounce Trump's anti-protest rant
"Stadiums across the US -- and even further afield -- became the focus of an unprecedented show of defiance against US President Donald Trump Sunday, as some NFL players locked arms or refused to stand for the national anthem, saying that they are protesting racial and social injustice."
"Players from all 28 teams in the league that played Sunday participated in some form of protest."
"Players have been protesting during the anthem since last August,
when then-San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick started protesting the shootings of unarmed black men by police."
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politics/nfl-protests-weekend/index.html
Trump clashes with sports world over player protests, invitation
in World News
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I agree. Let's not get into conspiracies and stay on topic.
The inept one in the White House "highlighted" "this minor event" at one of his Mussolini-esque rallies.
While dispensing with adolescent racial jibes.