Advocate

On 11/28/2021 at 5:46 PM, Sheryl said:

I have been making reports online for myself with no difficulty for years. However I now get the dreaded "see immigration in your province" message. I left the country in July and returned in September with COE. I can only surmise that when I entered they either failed to enter the information into the main database, or made an error in something when they entered it such that the system now cannot find me based on entry date and TM card no. ? The site is not down, as under "check status" I can easily call up all my past reports. Also don't think it is a browser issue for same reason.

 

Anyone else who entered on a COE have this problem?

You got a new visa which is the problem you face. The real problem appears to be a disconnect between the database for non-immigrant visas and the database for 90-day reporting. It probably means all your old information is in the 90-day report database and it won't be corrected until you do a 90-day report in person. However, you can probably still do it by mail.

The Immigration Bureau has no interest in making the life of visa-holders easy.

The 90-day report system is a useless means of annoyance which I have not experienced in 15 other countries I have lived and worked in.

9 hours ago, Advocate said:

20211130 Online 90-day reporting finally worked for me after not working for 15 months. I did complain to the Immigration officer at my last visa extension about Online 90-day reporting not working.

 

Now I just have to hope it progresses beyond 'pending'.

 

I did also file a complaint against the Ombudsman not having done anything to cause The IB to fix this problem after 15 months of regular complaints to the Ombudsman and the IB.

 

So I don't know if either, both, or none of these actions caused the problem to be fixed.

 

At 16:20 still not approved. I don't understand why they have to be approved anyway. If the information was correct enough to be accepted by the system approval should be automatic.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You have a consistent habit of under estimating the amount of damage done here, and over estimating the capability of the leadership here. 

 

I would suspect 80% in the tourism sector would disagree with you. 

 

Thailand was facing horrendous tourism issues long before Covid came along. Numbers were up, yet revenue was way, way down. The lower to lower middle income earners from China, India and Malaysia was never going to be a solution. Simply a bandaid applied by inept and incapable men. 

 

And even with the tourism break, no effort is being made on any level to address the pre-Covid issues. None. Nunca. Nada. Zero. 

 

One might have hoped the authorities would gain some humility and perspective from all this. It appears they are a very inferior human subset, and are not capable of learning adapting or improving. 

 

Woe is Thailand. 

There is so much ignorance and anti-Thai bias in this forum.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/thailand/tourism-revenue

Tourism revenue chart:

53 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

What evidance do you have that most expats are UK pensoners living on a UK pension? I have quite a few British friends and not one of them relies on just the UK pension.

 

There you go changing the scope of the argument again "not one of them relies on just the UK pension".

6 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

You have seen spidermike007's signature line, 0 for your observation skills, crawl back into your hole.

Wrong on so many fronts

Have you appointed yourself SpiderMike's spokesperson?

Is there any evidence that SpiderMike's signature line is true, or that it is even relevant to the matters under debate?

This debate is about the fall of the Baht and where it is headed. Most of the people complaining about the GBP/Baht rate are UK expats living on GBP pension payments while the Baht appreciated considerably against the GBP over the period 2005-2019 falling from 75 to 40 Baht/GBP in that period.

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What has any of this got to do with the future of the tourism industry in Thailand? Especially SpiderMike's dire predictions for it?

SpiderMike and his ilk are captives of the British pension system and they keep dreaming that some magic event or process will rescue them by making the GBP soar against other currencies. Unfortunately for SpiderMike history suggests that the GBP will not rise because there is no evident reason for it to do so.

The reason the Thai Baht has fallen is because the Thai government and business leaders wants it to fall.

The GBP has been consistently and continuously falling against the Thai Baht since 1995 and UK productivity growth has flatlined since 2005. Nothing that is happening in the UK is likely to change that. In fact, the UK has probably lost many multiples more of GDP from tourism than Thailand has.

Perhaps the UK needs its army of dreamers in Thailand to return and fix the UK.

Brits on pensions are dreaming of a false dawn of the decline of the Baht. They will wake up eventually as the tired old British Peso gets battered by Brexit realities.

The current decrease in the value of the Baht is temporary and could be arrested extremely quickly by a huge rise in exports.

Both balance of trade and balance of payments are strongly positive and increasing. Thailand has been under pressure from the US for several years for currency manipulation in not allowing the Baht to rise to reflect the strength of Thailand's financial position.

Exports are surging.

"Exports from Thailand jumped 43.82 percent year-on-year to USD 23.70 billion in June 2021, beating above market expectations of a 38.98 percent growth and after a 41.59 percent gain a month earlier."

https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/exports

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Exports from Thailand jumped 43.82 percent year-on-year to USD 23.70 billion in June 2021, beating above market expectations of a 38.98 percent growth and after a 41.59 percent gain a month earlier. This was the fastest rise in outbound shipments in eleven years, amid strengthening foreign demand in the wake of coronavirus infections. Sales of vehicle and auto parts jumped 78.5% yoy, while those of computers and parts gained 21.6%. Exports rose to the US (41%), China (42%), Japan (32%), and the EU (47%). In the first half of the year, shipments grew by 15.53% from the same period of 2020.

I received approval and receipt for 90-day reporting by mail 44 days after the Immigration Bureau received my 90-day report-by-mail submission.

The incompetence of the Immigration Bureau 90-day report operation is a disgrace.

30 days after sending mail-in 90-day report approval still not received.

If not received by tomorrow will file more registered mail written complaints x2 plus online Ombudsman.

I am surprised that the Ombudsman x 3 complaints to date have had no impact. No written response from Ombudsman other than acknowledgments. Nothing works in Thailand government.

This business about online reporting rights being restored after a visit to the office is untrue.

They don't need a visit or getting their hands on your passport to restore your online reporting rights. It is BS.

I have complained strongly several times in writing. The last time the Ombudsman's representative told me the problem would be fixed if I sent them my passport. I rejected that advice because they don't need to have the passport in their hands to fix the problem because if they did, 90-day mail-in reporting would not work either.

The IB management is incompetent.

The IB fixed this 90-day online reporting problem for a brief time in 2020. However after 6 months of being fixed they then 'unfixed' it.

16 hours ago, mokwit said:

New here?

Complaining on ThaiVisa forums has no effect on the IB  because the management of ThaiVisa has no influence with the IB or the government and the management of ThaiVisa has no interest in trying to influence the IB or the government into reacting to the justified complaints against the IB's incompetence.

The answer is simple. The management of the 90-day reporting system is incompetent.

90-day online reporting mostly doesn't work.

IB are taking 30+ days to respond to mail-in 90-day reports.

The IB does not address complaints and in fact disregards them.

1 hour ago, tonray said:

It has been for decades, why change now ?

If you're happy and you know it clap your hands.

I am getting the report to your local IB message when trying to do 90 day online report.

I will be immediately posting mail in report and filing a complaint with IB, Ombudsman and others.

Perpetual incompetence by the IB is not acceptable.

People are wrongly claiming that having done the last report in person makes the online reporting defective. That is not true. I have had the online report work after in-person reports.

However, I complained after the in-person reports that the online reporting was defective.

There is also no reason why the online reporting should not work after a new passport is recorded because if you do an in-person report that works and it is the same database.

The key to solving the problems is to complain in writing to Immigration and to the Ombudsman.

Verbal complaints at the IB office are useless. Complaints via notes in the suggestion box at the IB office are useless.

On 5/14/2021 at 11:13 AM, pookiki said:

This has been a common problem reported by myself and others. I have no idea of what it will take to fix this but I wish someone in immigration would take the time - and care - about fixing it!!

If you don't complain in writing they won't do anything.

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Need emails, 99% of people won't bother with letters

Letters, particularly registered letters, go through a formal process of recording, directing to addressee, and filing. Emails do not go through a formal process and can be ignored without consequences to the negligent Thai official.

Attention:  Maj-General Surachate Hakpal

FORMAL COMPLAINT

Immigration Bureau of Thailand

507 Soi Suan Plu Sathorn

Immigration Bureau Bangkok 10120, FAX: 0-2287-1516, 0-2287-1310

Ombudsman online complaint address: https://webapp.ombudsman.go.th/omb_ics/default.aspx?Language=en-US

Those foreigners whose 90-day online report attempt fails should complain formally in writing.

If the IB does not respond to complaints, then complain to Ombudsman.

The IB has no interest in fixing defective software and defective procedures if there are no consequences for allowing such defects to continue.

If nobody complains the problems will never be fixed.

On 5/4/2021 at 9:13 AM, GreasyFingers said:

Then why do they ask whether you are a resident for tax purposes on your tax return. You can be a non resident and you will be taxed on everything you earn in Australia without the tax threshold.

The questions on the tax form are for self-entrapment purposes where they use your answer to penalize you at higher penalty values because your answer disagreed with their assessment.