Spilornis

1 hour ago, pluto_manibo said:

all the Thai people who work abroad, invest abroad and want to remit funds, trying to survive in this difficult economic climate are the main targets.

This is an excellent point. Not sure of numbers but I assume there are many Thais working in areas such as the UAE, international shipping and offshore mining that will be taxed for the first time.

Malaysia has foreshadowed a similar tax regime which would impact significantly on the many Malaysians working in Singapore.

One difficulty I foresee is compliance. In Malaysia at least very few people are required to pay income tax (wages too low) so there is an absence of habit of paying taxes.

On 9/13/2023 at 11:19 AM, Peterw42 said:

Just leave the money in Australia and in term deposit, they don't tax savings and you can earn $20k in interest before its taxed. 

Agree... you actually want to retain your Australian tax residency so you can take advantage of the very generous tax free threshold.

Think about putting some into shares with franked dividends. You'll get a refund each year.

It's not hard to retain residency... super fund, bank account, etc all help.

The 180 day test is largely a red herring when it comes to residency. All it does is gives Thailand a right to tax you as well. Depends on their laws as to whether you are taxed

48 minutes ago, Deserted said:

Well the women I used to work with and talk about this to said she liked it because she didn't have to spend any money but then said before she left she liked to fill her bag and then sell the products when she got home to make a profit out of it!

This is known in the Chinese media as the suitcase trade. It used to be enormous between HK and the mainland. Post the pandemic it has almost disappeared as the goods commonly carried across the border (perfume etc) were often cheaper on the mainland than in HK.

I wonder if the same has happened with relative prices between Thailand and China.

On a more general note I don't understand these short term visa changes. Why five months only. Change the rules and if it doesn't work change them back.

Separately, foreign tourism into China is almost non existent but I doubt they will change their archaic visa system. ( I hate paperwork for genuine tourism.)

The oil pipeline might make sense as a standalone project but the port facilities at either end would be expensive. Might work if ships could stand offshore and disgorge the oil into offshore piping buoys. You'd want to have strong environmental controls but you might get away with a series of breakwater complexes.

Can't see the rail or road working simply because of the cost and infrastructure not to mention the double handling.

The Chinese funded east-west railway in Malaysia was touted as being a container route. Who knows if it will work

90 days makes sense and brings Thailand into line with Malaysia, India and Vietnam among others.

Indonesia are allowing 60 day visas (the standard VoA is still 30 days).

Visa exempt or as others call it visa waiver is the way to go. Just reduce the paperwork and make it easy.

Then for the e gates

India has banned the export of rice and Vietnam has announced its intention to drastically reduce rice production by 44% on the basis that the product is too water intensive.

It's an emotive product due to its place in the history of many countries especially Japan.

Will be interesting to see how each country adapts

6 hours ago, arick said:

When are the Chinese airlines going to start flying again? 

They took a big hit but are now ramping up staff etc. The estimate is mid 2024 things will be back to pre covid level.

Internal tourism/flights to places like Hainan is booming.

Thailand being close to China should start to see an impact by September is my guess

1 hour ago, stoner said:

i would be confident too if i had that sweet samui deal. 

Do they still hold that monopoly.

Twenty years ago I can remember asking my travel agent why the Bangkok to Samui return flight cost was close to my Australia-Bangkok flight cost.

When India demonitised its currency the only way you could get value for notes over 500 rupees(US$7) was to open a bank account and deposit your notes. Deposits over 10k rupees or thereabouts got notified to the taxman.

Within hours there was a cottage industry providing individuals willing to open a bank account in their name into which you could put the money and then withdraw it in nice clean notes.

No one in power in India to my knowledge ever challenged the role of the banks in this charade

Seems to be a reasonable scheme. The health insurance is a pain. In Malaysia no requirement for health insurance over 60 where they recognise local insurers simply don't offer cover

9 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

About time the Thai immigration made automated gates for most travellers. Recently we went to Singapore, me on a British passport and GF on a Cambodian passport. All travellers have to fill in a free online form before entry with passport number, where staying etc. On arrival simply used one of the many automatic gates (there was only a handful of staffed desks). Zero queues and took just 15 seconds to enter. After that we both received Visit Pass emails welcoming us to Singapore and stating our length of permitted stay (me 90 days, her 30 days) with a link to extend stays if needed. Exit from the country was similarly easy. Thailand 4.0 anyone?

There is little doubt that e gates for foreigners will be rolled out in many countries in the coming years. The traditional methods simply cannot handle the increase in tourist numbers.

Malaysia is doing it for many countries albeit a little clumsily at first with a requirement that you first register your biometrics. Australian entry and exit for example is a breeze for many countries (visa process aside).

USA still looks stuck in the old world but at least they have no immigration checks on exit. The US security check process is still a nightmare but their "approved traveller" process means that frequent travellers avoid the circus.

Baggage delivery seems to often be a problem at several airports. Not sure if it's a system or manpower issue.

Singapore sees its airport as a revenue hub and has always done what it can to compete with the more recent Middle Eastern entries (Dubai). There's no reason Bangkok or KL should not compete in the hub market going forward

11 hours ago, rhodie said:

Cheers. Yes, I agree the 45 days has been discussed. Could you please post a link to the legislation.

I based my comment on the linked Man Judd summary of the legislation. As I mentioned these four factors are very similar to the existing tests used for tax residency except that no one or two factors were by themselves determinant of residency (it was a weighting issue and could be contradicted by residency indices in another country). Interesting that membership of a superannuation fund in Australia is not mentioned as that is one of the present indices

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The secondary test is a ‘Factor Test’ which applies to individuals who spend more than 45 days but less than 183 days in an income year. The secondary tests focus on four factors, two of which must be satisfied by that person to be deemed as resident for tax purposes. Factors include:

• The Right to reside permanently in Australia (e.g. citizenship or permanent residency);
• The ability to access accommodation in Australia (e.g. rights of ownership, leasehold interest, licenses);
• Whether the individual’s family (spouse or any of their children under 18) are generally located in Australia;
• The individual’s Australian economic connections (employment, carry on business, interests in Australia)"

https://hlb.com.au/tax-residency-changes-for-individuals/

On 2/26/2023 at 9:38 PM, rhodie said:

Can you link to that proposed legislation. I was under the belief that the proposal was the reverse. People who are resident in Australia for 183 days will not be able to claim non residence for tax purposes. I am not sure the reverse is true at this stage.

Interesting...

it appears to have a secondary test very similar to the old domicile test but you need to have spent 45 days per year in Australia to avail yourself of that aspect of the test.

For people residing overseas who don't satisfy either test and who receive Australian income (including the OAP) the inability to avail oneself of the tax free threshold is a big change

5 hours ago, Purdey said:

Singapore airport is possible the standard by which all airports pass or fail. Have not been there for a few years but it is a pleasurable memory, unlike JFK where my Indian colleagues were dragged off for additional questioning because the Americans can't tell the difference between Indians and Arabs.

I feel one of the issues that slow down incoming passengers in Bangkok is the time it takes for immigration to check and double check passports. That is the key to what makes Singapore a pleasure. They have computers to tell if a passenger is wanted for a something, yet in Bangkok they continue to flick back and forth, looking for goodness knows what. They ought to recognize a fake passport by scanning it, surely?

To summarize, it is the human element that slows everything down, not the digital element.

Most foreign entries into Singapore these days use the egates.

Time for Thailand to do the same.

Malaysia has plans to introduce e gates for foreigners (hopefully later this year)

8 hours ago, terryofcrete said:

Just left BKK last night and the departure passport control queue was horrendous , due simply to the fact that there were only a few booths manned , while other immigration staff walked up and down watching and chatting to the few that were actually manning a booth . 
now add anther 300 bath on to the flight cost to line someone's pockets 

but certainly won't improve the service to tourism as is alleged. 
 

E gates for foreigners is the answer

Singapore has done it and Malaysia is about to do it for visitors from a number of countries.

Pre-pandemic it was obvious that something has to change from the old face to face immigration clearance.

Pre clearance documents, random checks, trusted traveller schemes and e gates are all in the mix going forward

Reminds me of youtubers and durian. They spend their time smelling the fruit and saying it's disgusting.

How about going with someone who knows their durian and experiencing the differences in taste, texture, creaminess etc between durians by reference to type and origin.

Think of it as a wine tasting.

And by the way... you don't nose a durian for its bouquet youtubers !

Going forward watch out for local tax on imported phones. Indonesia has a system that foreign phones can't connect after around 90 days unless you pay the local import tax. Same in Pakistan.

They use the phone's IMEI number.

All done electronically so once set up the system is a good revenue raiser

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Let us see how this plays out, before labeling this a doom scenario. Yes, alot of infected people will show up from China. But, the subsequent variants seem to be getting weaker and more feeble. So, maybe this virus is nearly played out. Maybe. 

Due to limited testing it's hard to get an absolute handle on real numbers but the world trend seems to be downwards including China. Who knows if there will be another wave but at present there's a relative lull so let's enjoy it.

Not sure about others but I am getting tired of filling out forms and queuing in lines for things on arrival.

Online forms/payments if they must and e gates are the future.

Travelling to India in a few weeks via Singapore which means a PCR test. Seriously wondering if I can be bothered

After this covid interval is finished I hope someone collects all the false information given out.

In Malaysia for all of 2020 they ran an ad saying that on arriving home all clothes should go straight into the washing machine, sanitize yourself, shower etc etc. Made it sound like a decontamination unit.

Not to mention all those people washing their groceries with bleach before bringing them into the house.

Remember the "deep clean" businesses

All of those countries who are requiring tests of travellers from China didn't make the twenty country list.

New Zealand made it as did Russia and South Africa.

China pressure is real.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202301/1284134.shtml

Many cities in India are limited to electric tuk tuks. (auto rickshaws). They are very slow. Wonder if the newer models are faster

Having taken many on the sub continent you become expert at checking out the back suspension to ensure a smoother ride.

It's a shame that in Bangkok they have become synonymous with rip offs.

If ever in India a good pricing rule... 50 rupees ..short ride...up to 5 minutes. 100 rupees for ten minutes. Anything over 10 minutes= uber/ola

Air charges included in ticket prices are common everywhere. Charges that have to be paid on arrival or departure (visa on arrival is another example) are just a pain and impact on the visitor experience.

Malaysia has a 10 ringgit per night tourist tax for foreigners at hotels. Has to be paid in cash usually. An absolute nuisance.

If they said they were going to use the money to invest in biometric egates for foreigners I'd be happier

Interesting thing to know.

My first thought of a buffalo is "strong and dependable" not to mention a source of wealth through milk and working of fields.

Never really thought of monitor lizards beyond the fact that they're... "monitor lizards".

While some have made reference to the cow terminology in English the reference to being bullish (as opposed to a bully) in English is not derogatory.

A strange thing... language

2 minutes ago, Spilornis said:

2. Passengers coming from countries with measures to prevent people infected with COVID from returning to the country must have health insurance covering COVID treatment throughout the duration of the trip in Thailand. Expats with Thai social security are exempt.

What in the blazes are "measures".

Obviously includes countries that require tests but Malaysia has introduced temperature testing again. Is that a "measure"?