totallyobnoxiousme

I disagree 100 percent.

Borrowing the money is not prohibited under any existing Thai written law.

So ipso facto: IT IS ALLOWED.

To follow the law, the money in the bank must be seasoned for two months for the first extension, and three months for subsequent ones when using the 800K bank method.

Yes, there are commercial visa fixers who have methods of providing the funds and based on information I have gleaned, no they do not even bother to season the funds.

Those who have obtained extensions via commercial outfits using dodgy methods, and you know who you are, I am not sure how you sleep at night, but that's your business.

While the visa fixers are obviously "stretching" the law when not actually seasoning the funds, say no more, wink wink nod nod, if you get a loan and season the money you are actually in compliance.

As has been mentioned before, if doing a CONVERSION in Thailand from a 30 day stamp or tourist visa to O IN Thailand, then there is a problem because the money is supposed to be IMPORTED FROM ABROAD for that purpose. Whether they enforce that or not is another matter.

Aside from that, there is no requirement that money for extensions be IMPORTED from abroad though.

Many people will likely reckon that the money seasoning rules were instituted to discourage / add extra costs (see wink wink nod nod above) borrowing money for these accounts. Fair enough, they may do that, but that is not the same thing as specifically PROHIBITING the practice.

People in glasshouses should NOT throw stones !!!!!!!!!

Boy people what is the problem? put money in bank if you don't have the money you don't have the money to live here stay in home country geez. simple. Got enough cheap charlies and crooks here as it is.

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Just because the OP does not have 800,000 baht or 65,000 per month does not mean that he is either a cheap charlie or a crook. Many of us live here on way under that figure.........legally I might add.

It annoys me sometimes that here on TV many posters think that just because they have a bucket load of cash or big pensions that they are the only ones worthy of being able to stay here. We are all contributing to the Thai economy every day no matter how small or great so please get off your high horses.

Arrogant Braggarts comes to mind ...Bad karma ....

How different would people act if they couldn't show off on social websites ? Would they still do it in front of a real audience say' in the Pub ?

A Thai degree much like many other countries in Asia is not worth the paper it is written on outside of the respective country. And probably not much more in the respective country. Employers (top companies) only recognise degrees obtained in decent universities which are located in the US / Europe etc or Singapore / HK / japan. Not in countries like Indonesia where my wife's best friend passed her final degree papers by buying all her professors mont blonk pens

3 girls I know went to assumption, 1 Chinese and 2 thai Chinese. The Chinese girl 4 years later still works in the gift shop in a well known hotel chain. The thai Chinese one (my ex) managed to get an internship in the US with super low salary (cost her dad an absolute fortune in agency fees to get her there) and was not kept on, but managed to marry a relatively wealthy American man and now is a lady of leisure. The other thai Chinese (her sister) graduated in something, but I don't know how as she is literally as thick as 2 planks. Probably the most stupid person I've ever met

That made me chuckle lol !!!

 

Strange how you try to protect his virtues ....

As far as I am concerned he had no virtues, seriously weird in both looks and actions.
Living with his mom all his life has to be a gigantic warning sign to everyone.

 

Hear Hear' its self-evident not only was he a necrophiliac, perverted, nonce, he also looked damn ugly dripping in gold and shiny nylon track-suits with an eerie like presence that gave you the f***ing creeps ... There is more evidence than they had at the war trials at the Hague - so to speak. Why is it ANYONE in their right frame of mind' would even contemplate this Pedophile could have been innocent ??? Beats me !!!

 

 

There were many complaints made against Savile during his lifetime, but the complainants were laughed at. Some, from young girls at children's homes were even punished for reporting his attacks, including rape. Savile was protected by some very powerful and influential people indeed. Testimony from police officers investigating him at various times over the years state that they had thick dossiers on him, when they were ready to pull him in, orders came from on high not to do so,"In the public interest". Savile was a close friend of several members of the British royal family, Prime Ministers, he spent Christmas and New Year with the Thatchers on many occasions. Yet it was common knowledge amongst police forces that Savile was a sex offender. He must have been vetted by the security services before mixing with Royals and Prime Ministers. In his autobiography Savile openly boasted about his activities with under age girls, stating that he was "untouchable", because "if he were to be arrested he would take powerful people down with him".
This scandal does not begin and end with Savile and his crimes, a few household name pop stars and the like being pulled in is all well and good, it keeps the tabloid readers happy, but a desperate attempt is being made to keep a lid on the real scandal, that of senior members of the UK establishment being involved with Savile and his crimes. Google 'Elm guest house london", and Haute de Garonne childrens home Jersey, both ongoing investigations. But, drip by drip, the real story is unfolding, there will be some very worried people out there.

If this were true, I would have thought it potentially more profitable to chase the concerned authorities that refused to act on the complaints, than a dead man. If it were common knowledge among police forces, every police force concerned needs to pay serious damages to the victims.

A conspiracy of children's homes and police forces to conceal child abuse seems a little unlikely though.

 

Strange how you try to protect his virtues ....






 

I am saying that flogging a dead horse isn't going to do any good.

It seems by your informative profile picture you might have some hidden agenda albeit in a comical note 

Sir Jimmy Savile will be (and is) a constant reminder of the sexual deviants that are a danger to children all over the world who need tagged and publicly exposed wherever they reside. These Parasites don't deserve human rights given once they relinquish this form of protection, when preying on children and whoever else they feast upon. This particular cretin was also a necrophiliac who not only had disrespect for the living, but had the same vile approach on the dead.

Gary Glitter and the rest of the 'Pedophile brigade' must always be exploited for the benefit of society and never be protected from scrutiny. Otherwise, we unleash a dangerous liaison (hairy at the heel) on the public at large. Any so-called do-gooders who think he should be here to defend himself - who defended his victims?

So much has been written, our '2 cents worth' will just add to his remembrance as one of the vilest human beings to have walked this our mother earth. May he rot in hell !!!! 

I am sick of this getting old shiiiite I totally ignore it and refuse to get involved. I came into life thinking believing that life owes me a favour since I made a stance and did my best not to overrun society

Clearly, Its impossible to make any comment that would amount to anything in this case. Kids need scolded from time to time however not many children would ever revert to such a harrowing decision as this young girl did.

RIP Dear Child

Hello friends!

Have the doctor paper at home

I will send it when I check blood again!

I eat nearly everything what Thai kitchen offers, only the pork I not like !

Proberbly 3 ice creams a week and sometime a snickers could be the reason..

Easiest solution on the planet - take Simvastatins end of story !!!

Easy solution I just get my wife to pay .doesn't matter where we go I have never paid more than a thai .

I remember trying this years ago at the Butterfly Garden, didn't work.

I totally agree, especially in Soi Nana

This is following a typical MO here.

1) Lame OP slagging off TV membership

2) Follow up posts where the OP claims to live here, and have been here for years, speaks 'fluent' Thai, has a wonderful 6 figure salaried job, HiSo Thai Chinese wife or has married a PHd or medical Doctor, International businesswoman he met from Thai Friendly.

Exhibit A below where he claims to be a 'professional person' because as we all know 'professional people' just love spending all day spamming internet fora and not getting on with their jobs and enjoying their wonderful lives here.If I wasn't tied to my desk today I'd not even bother replying to this deranged lunatic's drivel.

Not new, resided in Thailand for nearly a decade. I am a professional person. From the UK.

I'll go and save us all a lot of time. You are Not a professional person. You are some low paid TEFL teacher with serious mental issues.

Now please some Mod zap this liar's nonsense before he starts to believe his own lies like PPmac and whereustay..

Said' like a Pro - Drinker ........ well' you do have a sense of humour after all I see ... you made me laugh my friend ... thanks for that made my day .......... bye for now

Op have you had a look at the other Thailand forum,it makes this look like a jolly tea party,i am not a member of it and neither do i wish to be,but if you want to see negative comment's and threatning abuse i suggest you have a look.

Why is it TV members of the toxic fraternity go so far off the OP it seems like they’re spaced out or tripping?

Just what in my post do you find toxic ,exactly?

Easy - YOU !!! .. Got to go home now and thank you for your thoughts .............

Why is it TV members of the toxic fraternity go so far off the OP it seems like they’re spaced out or tripping?

Hi there totallyobnoxiousme ... welcome to Thai Visa.

We can see you are intelligent.

You have an opnion.

Just what do you want to share with us?

Oh ... also ... just who do you think make up the 'toxic fraternity' ?

Thank you for being polite and do appreciate that sincerely.

To be honest and in a nutshell' would be a bit nicer if people never slated everyone to such a degree that it leaves one bewildered at times. I suspect they (toxic fraternity) purposely indoctrinate, manipulate the poster into a state of confusion by veering off into some other subject to win their petty arguments that never seems relevant to the topic in the first place.

David, I really do think TV is best Forum in Thailand to help Foreigners with particular problems and with sound advice’ given out by those who have the experiences which can help enormously. However, it seems at times some members come on her to cat-call and jeer and crucify others for the hell of it…… I expect now I’ll be harangued and reprimanded by others for stating anything that doesn’t fall into place with their views.

Nobody’s perfect my friend … but hey’ please give some people a break now and then, they’re only asking for guidance …………

I can respect that reply. Your platitudes are appreciated, but that does not buy my respect.

That said ... I do understand your origins, your roots.

My story is simple ... I was a member here for 12 months, just content to read the News Forum and some Visa advice before I even made my first post ... I'm probably the extreme opposite of the guy who rocks up, avatar already in place and posts a question as his first post.

Who's action is correct? ... neither ... and both.

You do (and post) as you see fit.

Where we, as a members group do get a touch cynical is when a 'Newbie' comes all guns blazing after 3 posts and tells us how the lay of the land lies.

We think, maybe one of three things ...

1/ Welcome back recently banned Troll

2/ See above

3/ See above

Most times we are proven correct.

Now, I'm not saying that about your good self.

But we do approach with a healthy degree of scepticism.

So, in good faith, welcome aboard.

Use your talents for good, not mischief.

Well ... a little bit of mischief anyway ... 'tis Thailand anyway ...

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Good answer David' nonetheless incorrect. Been reading TV for many years. Admittedly, never really posted much other than the odd quips since' my job held me back with more important things at hand. Although, would like to participate a little more in the said future. Good luck and wish you all the best with your kind advice that will surely help others who really need it ............

Being so new, and with the absence of information on your profile, would you care to share a little about yourself ? Where you are from, do you live in Thailand as as an example ?

If you dont care to do that, its no problem, just a thought.

Not new, resided in Thailand for nearly a decade. I am a professional person. From the UK.

Op have you had a look at the other Thailand forum,it makes this look like a jolly tea party,i am not a member of it and neither do i wish to be,but if you want to see negative comment's and threatning abuse i suggest you have a look.

Why is it TV members of the toxic fraternity go so far off the OP it seems like they’re spaced out or tripping?

Hi there totallyobnoxiousme ... welcome to Thai Visa.

We can see you are intelligent.

You have an opnion.

Just what do you want to share with us?

Oh ... also ... just who do you think make up the 'toxic fraternity' ?

Thank you for being polite and do appreciate that sincerely.

To be honest and in a nutshell' would be a bit nicer if people never slated everyone to such a degree that it leaves one bewildered at times. I suspect they (toxic fraternity) purposely indoctrinate, manipulate the poster into a state of confusion by veering off into some other subject to win their petty arguments that never seems relevant to the topic in the first place.

David, I really do think TV is best Forum in Thailand to help Foreigners with particular problems and with sound advice’ given out by those who have the experiences which can help enormously. However, it seems at times some members come on her to cat-call and jeer and crucify others for the hell of it…… I expect now I’ll be harangued and reprimanded by others for stating anything that doesn’t fall into place with their views.

Nobody’s perfect my friend … but hey’ please give some people a break now and then, they’re only asking for guidance …………

Op have you had a look at the other Thailand forum,it makes this look like a jolly tea party,i am not a member of it and neither do i wish to be,but if you want to see negative comment's and threatning abuse i suggest you have a look.

Why is it TV members of the toxic fraternity go so far off the OP it seems like they’re spaced out or tripping?

What meaningless topic. Don't like TV, don't use it then.....

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Pray tell me oh' worldly Wiseman in my OP where it says' I don't like TV ?????????????????????

First off, drifting in and out under assumed newbie, is actually against forum rules to have more than one account. Why the need to decieve or be devious?

Never gel with "ours"? Who is "ours" suggests a group.

Not to listen to reason ? Maybe just a different opinion, those are allowed ya know.

Troll? Dont act like one and you wont be treated like one.

Go home? Well dont Thai bash or try to make Thailand or moan it isnt the western state you hail from and it wont happen.

Teachers, Dunno are you? Most younger people are in that category.

Real world? well thats the general nature of internet forums.

Off the OP, rarely happens in my observation, but when it does its a natural discussion spin off.

Lighthearted? Well unfortunately with the written word is hard to detect expression and emotion, sometimes its not whats said but how its perceived. 90% or higher of communication is non verbal, so sometimes people see it differently from whats intended, thats called, human nature.

Well' as per my Red print (above) never new this to be honest - thanks for the warning !!!

I also think that tv is an excellent forum board for some information relevant to foreigners or people living in Thailand that without a doubt helps enormously in day to day with good advice. That is not up for debate. If you want to Bash me to death so be it - nothing ventured nothing gained.

Off out now and have a nice day Charlie ...............................

Hi everyone!

Personally, I’ve found that floating in and out under an assumed Newbie moniker seems to incite or get a sympathy vote from a very small minority of TV members. Particularly, whenever I’ve posted a novel topic. These TV disciplinarians are as one would personally suspect ‘a load of grumpy old farts’ that never had their secondary nap or just desserts. So in effect, need to voice their opinions to see them through the day, save booting the cat/dog/missus up the A%%. As a consequence, both my Granddad’s were pretty off key who displayed tendencies to discipline others as some kind of birthright. Maybe, I’m just a bit unruly for having an attitude that didn’t marry up with Thiers?

TV MEMBERS
Why does their experiences of life never seem to gel with ours?
Why is it they tend to not listen too reason?
Why do they persist in making out you’ve committed the cardinal sin and become a serial troller if they can’t answer your subject?
Why do they always say things like – you can always go back to your own country if you don’t like it?
Why do they assume we are all in the teachers' profession with no money?
Why do they give public warnings whenever someone voices an opinion that doesn’t constitute anything of a serious nature?
Why do they think they can insult others in this a virtual world and not the real world where retribution would be a whole lot different in their own country of birth.

Why is it TV members of the toxic fraternity go so far off the OP it seems like they’re spaced out or tripping?

Wouldn’t it be really nice, if this topic was looked at more as a light heartedly subject, giving off some comical aired views that never came back with the usual calculated repulsive comments of the seniority nature we’ve become accustomed too? Am I asking or expecting too much?

Will this subject focus on the OP or even be flogged to death for daring to venture into the unknown? Are there still any nice people out there who truly care about others?

Lets find out .............................

Seems to me that this OP has grown out of control and hard to decipher anything anymore with so many toxic views.

We Farangs get overcharged as a matter of principal - their principal.

We either cough up - or walk away - there is no other option. It’s ludicrous to think that by all these posts albeit ‘pro or anti’ will help the situation. I get my back-up as well. However, such is life, there are more important issues in one's life than trying to make changes that are set in concrete. Regrettably, this malpractice is seen as a perk that is replicated around the world. As tourists flock in to their domain, can assure you nobody gives a flying whether you’re on holiday or a resident.

All these people who say you must accept or boycott it are ‘unfortunately’ or characteristically right no matter which way you care to look at it. There’s no point airing your views so strongly, if there is no chance for change now or in the said’ future. I believe it won’t happen in my life time since familiarity breeds contempt.

Anyway, for what it’s worth hope this helps a little – but suspect not – if the TV hardliners have anything to say about it !!!

I totally disagree with you. It is not a higher fee for farangs. It is a lower fee for Thais. Everything you say is the same in USA. Go to a Virginia historical site and show your USA ID. Discount given. Many places do that. Do you think Americans discriminate against Mexicans, etc. You bet they do. You should be discriminated also but not necessarily in a negative way all of the time.

Really you should stay in the country where you were born but you live in a foreign country. There is a huge difference being in another country - language, cost of living, culture, etc

For example, what does $10 mean to you. That is a whole day's wages for a Thai. They would like to go out also but cannot because you have increased their cost of living by simply being here as a tourist, as a business owner, big corp selling into this market, etc. You caused the inflation along with foreign companies that want to do business here. You have actually ruined many of their lives. Now - get on track - pay more!!!!!! Let the Thais - who own this land and are citizens of this land - have their normal price that should go along with $10/day income. You pay more! I am American and have no problems paying more. I should.

Your post starts with a brilliant observation "lower fee for Thais" but quickly moves to ridiculous. Putting your sound comment first doesn't make the rest true. The absurd assertion that "Americans discriminate against Mexicans" is offensive and wholly incorrect. The entire north American landmass is being integrated with Latin America by refusal to enforce existing national laws. To even assert that the law should be enforced has "citizens" silenced for fear of retribution. The arrangement is so one sided as to be madness, but Americans, by an large, are not as you suggest. Moronic statements deserve rebuttal. American or not, your self loathing does not constitute an indictment of an entire population!

The idea that $10 is nothing to an older, disabled western steel worker living on a fixed income in Ubon with his wife is equally unfair; you have no idea! None! ( I quickly peeked again at your further comments and "yep!" they continue to grow idle, and cancerous. Your post is actually a hate filled diatribe, concealed as a Thai Public Defender.) The obvious underlying point the OP presents is that his life experiences and observations inform him that universally, people should be treated equally both before the law and in commerce. Doesn't mean he is correct, but this is not an issue that is easily extrapolated to reach the poppycock conclusions you have.

I found my lip curling at the corner imagining you speaking your hate filled invective. Any of your points could/may be valid. You may note I never once defend the OPs point. The reason is in large part I tend to agree with you. However, I don't express myself with poison as you do, and when someone masks ignorance for discourse they should be called on it! You just don't achieve any contrary point with your attack. Your post even gets personal and blames a poster for greater Thai woes- indeed the poster's very presence here makes the Thai's suffer. Yours is not fairly called a point of view because an advocate for you would have to sift through the acid you wrote to produce some free standing ideas/rebuttal from your post. It's just an inferior and rude post to others. It's drivel!

BTW- your arrogance that you are an American and are okay paying more does not confer upon you any additional credibility. As your final comment it's fair to suspect this was your closing, your wrapping up. All this does is reinforce your arrogance!

Please understand.

I’m not trying to act as the devil’s advocate for us poor frowned upon flouncing members, however it needs be said’ I believe some of these individuals should loosen up and not be so hasty with scathing and vile retorts or act so quickly to pounce upon anyone as if their life depended on it. There is much more to life than just responding to forums. Thus, trying to impress these virtual avid readers on ‘how they themselves personally think’ or having the absolute given right’ to denounce anyone. This, because they’ve spent a lot of their spare time replying to topics. One doesn’t gain any brownie points in the real world’ with such innuendo nor does it install any wisdom in one’s daily grind for endurance. This drivel that pours out these subhuman septic tanks, leaves a lot to be desired. It’s not wise to let people rip you off on a daily basis with a smile. I’m not saying it happens all the time nonetheless makes one very displeased to be taken for a ride, especially because you’re a foreigner.

Telling people the old howling wailing lamentation on why they should return back to where they came from – no longer holds water. It’s just total toxic verbiage that dribbles off the side of these tyrannical tv desktop soldiers pent on shaming people into the state of abject cringing submissiveness.

I don’t want to drone given that it’s a pointless exercise. Trying to teach a pig to sing is time wasted and the pig just gets annoyed.

I totally disagree with you. It is not a higher fee for farangs. It is a lower fee for Thais. Everything you say is the same in USA. Go to a Virginia historical site and show your USA ID. Discount given. Many places do that. Do you think Americans discriminate against Mexicans, etc. You bet they do. You should be discriminated also but not necessarily in a negative way all of the time.

Really you should stay in the country where you were born but you live in a foreign country. There is a huge difference being in another country - language, cost of living, culture, etc

For example, what does $10 mean to you. That is a whole day's wages for a Thai. They would like to go out also but cannot because you have increased their cost of living by simply being here as a tourist, as a business owner, big corp selling into this market, etc. You caused the inflation along with foreign companies that want to do business here. You have actually ruined many of their lives. Now - get on track - pay more!!!!!! Let the Thais - who own this land and are citizens of this land - have their normal price that should go along with $10/day income. You pay more! I am American and have no problems paying more. I should.

You're an idiot. Tourists and foreigners have ruined Thai lives? They caused inflation? First of all, tourism and expats contribute about 20-25% of Thailand's GDP (be careful before you challenge me on that figure).

Second, price discrimination is universal here, in any sector, any industry. The historical sites you mention are one thing (tax subsidized). As an American, do I get the fruits in the US at a lower price at the street vendor? do I get an apartment rental at 25-50% discount compared to a foreigner in the US?

You are the classic type of foreigner who is being fleeced regularly, but I'm sure you get the Thai smile along with it.

That's the spirit don't mince your words with these imbeciles who are Thai - ANIZED .....

I would say that it's just about time for you return to you born country and pay 3-4 x the price for what you pay down here.

You have stayed here too long now and you need to go back home, to get your priority in place.

Out here you have more buing power that at your home country.

Maybe if you move to Combodia, Laos, or Vietnam, far out in the countrysite you get the lokal prices. But what can you buy. Lokal stuf, that you don't like anyway.

Anywhere in the world in turist areas you pay more for you things and Thailand is a very big turist area and you pay more than the lokals do. If you had in income the same as a lokal Thai,Ii really could understand your complains. You probably got 3-4 times as much as a hard working Thai and maybe even much more. So what's the problem?

I really don't understand your complain and think you have very small shoes to walk in. You are grumpy and think of yourself as somthing special that should have special prices and treatment. But gues what you already have that, you just forget how good you have it here.

So go home and pay 3-4 times more for your things and try complsin about it there and se how far you get with your complains.

I see it as you just make it more problematik for you to stay here in thelandof smile and you really don't derserw to be hare with your attitude and your opinion towards Thailand and leve to those who are happy here.

Don't walk around being this grumpy, it brings you down. Stay happy and enjoy that you are able to stay here at all.

Life is better when you are happy and you live longer. Grumpy have no joy and live a Shorter life.

(Sorry about my bad english, but it's my second language, but hope you understand what I'm trying to tell.)

You need to up the meds mate. People like you don't add any wisdom to topics other than give your own views that cannot possibly help any tv members or the OP. All this crap about adopting things to suit others through or own expense is HOGWASH !!!!!

I agree with OP however its ingrained into Thai policies and ain't gonna change anytime soon. In fact, I think your better off. Why? Because my missus always say's give me the money and I'll get things cheaper.

In the long run would have been better paying the prices cause she always - KEEPS MY CHANGE !!!