Joey J

Dr Robert

Great post, so nice to hear someone so happy in their heart.

I live about as remotely as it is possible to live in Thailand on a small farm near a very small village surrounded by rice and rubber trees.The "roads" are uneven potholes filled with yellow mud in the wet season and turn to dry dustbowls for the rest of the year. The native fauna and flora is spectacular, unique and mesmerising. The people are friendly but wary. The kids are delightful. I dodge chickens, dogs, cows water buffalo and drunk motor cyclists every day on my treks through the countryside.

My nearest town is Sawan Daeng Din a mere 28 kilometres or 45 minute drive away (about 100 km south of Udon Thani).

I see the ocassional european at the day markets, but they tend to be as happy in their "isolation" as am I.

Despite this distance from so called civilization, I feel removed from the troubles of the world, closer to the things that really matter-the sun and the sky and the weather and the seasons and real, joyful emotional relationship with family. I am a walking cliche who seemed to have stepped out of 1960's pop music extolling the joys of earth and air and water, independence and freedom.

And I have never been happier.

Well said doggie

I agree whole heartedly with the OPs last paragraph that farangs are more racist. In some ways nobody really cares if they are red necks in their own part of the woods...but i absolutely abhor the ones who come here and think they are not racist simply because they have a Thai wife whilst constantly complaining about lazy Thais who can't be bothered to learn English, or ask "why are THEY oh-so-not-like-civilised-us". Just read Thaivisa to see the type of comments about Thais, Indians, Chinese. Some white folk take great offense when the brown natives don't behave.

I would never ask a Thai person to read thaivisa for fear that some of the offensive views expressed may somehow be attributed to me.

I agree whole heartedly with the OPs last paragraph that farangs are more racist. In some ways nobody really cares if they are red necks in their own part of the woods...but i absolutely abhor the ones who come here and think they are not racist simply because they have a Thai wife whilst constantly complaining about lazy Thais who can't be bothered to learn English, or ask "why are THEY oh-so-not-like-civilised-us". Just read Thaivisa to see the type of comments about Thais, Indians, Chinese. Some white folk take great offense when the brown natives don't behave.

I would never ask a Thai person to read thaivisa for fear that some of the offensive views expressed may somehow be attributed to me.

I agree whole heartedly with the OPs last paragraph that farangs are more racist. In some ways nobody really cares if they are red necks in their own part of the woods...but i absolutely abhor the ones who come here and think they are not racist simply because they have a Thai wife whilst constantly complaining about lazy Thais who can't be bothered to learn English, or ask "why are THEY oh-so-not-like-civilised-us". Just read Thaivisa to see the type of comments about Thais, Indians, Chinese. Some white folk take great offense when the brown natives don't behave.

I would never ask a Thai person to read thaivisa for fear that some of the offensive views expressed may somehow be attributed to me.

Smokie that's classic, well done.

What you have here is an ignorance of the realities of life in the West.

OP I assume she has never been to your home country so.....

Invite her in the coldest month....
Spend your days working twelve hours and flopping on the sofa with a ready meal for two from your worst supermarket each night.

If it rains or even better snows insist on needing to go out for pointless reasons.....show her your monthly income/expenditure etc.....

In short if she still ain't got it after a month take her to a job centre and show her how much the jobs pay in relation to her contribution to bills etc.....


Personally I think the snow will nail it in five minutes.......worked for me lol!

Asean.i say this with the upmost respect, but you must live a very sad life.

His wife owns a restaurant so maybe he has a wp. Wp can be very liberal in there wording. He can be a manager involved in all aspects of the business including advertising and promoting the restaurant. Thats the approach i would take if i were him.

Correct, wife opens sole proprietorship and has two employees, herself and her sister.

No problem getting work permit.

As married to Thai there is only need for 2 employees.

no. Cooking pad thai is a restricted occupation. he cannot get a work permit for this work.

His wife owns a restaurant so maybe he has a wp. Wp can be very liberal in there wording. He can be a manager involved in all aspects of the business including advertising and promoting the restaurant. Thats the approach i would take if i were him.

Correct, wife opens sole proprietorship and has two employees, herself and her sister.

No problem getting work permit.

As married to Thai there is only need for 2 employees.

no. Cooking pad thai is a restricted occupation. he cannot get a work permit for this work.

Oh get a life you pathetic people,

(No work permit) (will get deported)(can't even wash your car) really. It's boring.

Never had such a laugh.

Sorry mate but if people would look and see the original post, they would see that it was only a dream and to find out if people had achieved their dream, but as usual you are belittled.

Thanks. ...

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Rgs.where as this come from that I have no money and I meant a girl from pattaya.

As already mentioned, post #47 in the link I provided, if you cant find it, here it is.

"Paul, I think in order for people to answer you honestly effectively, you should explain your situation better.

Many members here will be able to give you great advice based on real experience but in order to do so I think a clearer understanding of your situation is needed.

I have known "London Paul" for some years now and debated this matter with him on many occasions.

The problem Paul has are as follows;

no real savings of any kind

no pension

no investments

owns no property anywhere

has never lived in thailand (just short holidays over the past 4 or so years.)

he is not yet married to this girl he met in pattaya, so her farming skills are yet to be deterined....

I have no experience when it comes to farming, but have lived in thailand since i was a young boy and have grown up here.

As many posters have pointed out, there are many other costs that will be incurred whilst living in thailand.

money for visa extensions (annual)

medical/health insurance

vehicles etc

for someone of Paul's age and lack of financial security, i think he could be leaving to much to chance.

It is different if someone that is financially secure to pursue such a lifestyle, as they are in a position to walk away and still have money to live life in thailand.

But to have basically nothing in savings, no pension for retirement years, own no property, never spent any longer than a 4 week holiday in thailand and speak no thai what so ever. could be putting to many eggs in one very small basket in my opinion.

Basically Paul's whole existents in thailand would be based on "living off the land"

If Paul had a pension, some savings/investments aside, so basically if the farm thing didn't work out could still fund himself and have a life in Thailand (even a humble one) then i would say go for it.

Dreams cost money and unfortunately often turn out no to be the way we "dreamed" they would be.

I don't want to sound like a kill joy, but I have known London Paul for some years now and has discussed this matter with me many many times.

I don't blame him for seeking the opinions of others but I think that the people who will wish to respond to his post and offer some good advice, should also have a better understanding of his actual situation.

There a quite a few other flaws in Paul's plan due to other reasons which I will not mention out of respect for his privacy.

on a humorous note though, Paul does not work 12 hours days in the cold.... I had to laugh when I read that one paul.... "

If you now want to tell me all the above is false, I apologise, please take that matter up with the poster.

I can't follow who said she said they said what all but whomever it was that gave all pauls private details is a real class act.

As for Paul, you should realize that there are only two ages in your life when you follow your dreams and not worry about the risk. One is when you are young and have nothing to lose and the other is when you are old and have more than you will need to finish out your days. Then there are all those in between and they are stressed they do not have enough to last it out and all these middle guys cannot offer you the advice you need. They can only offer you their fears and concerns. All you will hear from them is, "It won't work" and "You can't do that".

Don't be wasting your efforts with them. The fact is, you are broke and have nothing to lose. We know this thanks to your chatty cathy pal above. So come here with what you have , make the most of every day , treat people with honesty and work hard and have fun. If it doesn't work out then all you have lost is time and you have gained great experience in life and you can use all of that with whatever comes next.

The single good bit of advice above is just have a return ticket paid for.

And keep your cards closer to your chest next time, trustworthy mates take a long time to find.

Cheers

thank you so much for that, I just wish more people would be more open. Just on this broke thing, , I'm in a job that I can get on a plane, arrive in London and after expenses get minimum 50.000 baht a week. If this is no good then I think thailand is not for me. I really appreciate you're post. As for friends you're right, say no more.

Thanks. ...Paul

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I'm so sorry to everyone, im trying to come back to everyone that is posting but im new to computing, please forgive me, I will say this that it has been really interesting, good and bad. I thank you all.

I say bs to all this negativity. If you have a very good relationship with your wife, and you are secure with her family then I see no problem whatsoever letting them help you and you helping them in return and honestly I live in Southern Arizona right now and so many ranchers have been able to make a real good living after years of economic hardship by turning to dude ranching, which is essentially what I'm advising you to do-just with kinds of local livestock and plants and that work with the local climate. Your in-laws, if they have any kind of background in the farming business will teach you everything you need to know.I see no reason you cannot make this work. The only big concern I have, and it is a big concern, is whether you get along with your in-laws or not. Because if you do, great. If you don't, everything changes.

I say bs to all this negativity. If you have a very good relationship with your wife, and you are secure with her family then I see no problem whatsoever letting them help you and you helping them in return and honestly I live in Southern Arizona right now and so many ranchers have been able to make a real good living after years of economic hardship by turning to dude ranching, which is essentially what I'm advising you to do-just with kinds of local livestock and plants and that work with the local climate. Your in-laws, if they have any kind of background in the farming business will teach you everything you need to know.I see no reason you cannot make this work. The only big concern I have, and it is a big concern, is whether you get along with your in-laws or not. Because if you do, great. If you don't, everything changes.

I say bs to all this negativity. If you have a very good relationship with your wife, and you are secure with her family then I see no problem whatsoever letting them help you and you helping them in return and honestly I live in Southern Arizona right now and so many ranchers have been able to make a real good living after years of economic hardship by turning to dude ranching, which is essentially what I'm advising you to do-just with kinds of local livestock and plants and that work with the local climate. Your in-laws, if they have any kind of background in the farming business will teach you everything you need to know.I see no reason you cannot make this work. The only big concern I have, and it is a big concern, is whether you get along with your in-laws or not. Because if you do, great. If you don't, everything changes.

Don't jump in with both feet just yet. Take your time and live your dream. One step, two step. Don't rush things but always move forward. You will love it and the hard work. I think you will enjoy your dream, but remember there are parts of a dream where you wake-up for awhile before going back to dream world.

You may at some point miss the city life and eventually get tired of the country/ farming and remoteness. I could be wrong because you are after-all 52, and in 10-15 years who knows? If I could say one more thing; if you're sharing your dream with someone else I hope that that special someone can either feel part of that same dream or feels enjoyment and fulfillment from knowing the happiness of you living your dream. I wish you the very best, enjoy life...

and I'm happy with that.

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One thing tony, I do know she would rather stay in where she is than live in the city.

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Swissie

If you read my post you will see everything I said was about a dream. Tyler who is a close friend has always tried to give me sound advice but unfortunately in lives in a city and I would like to live in the country. Why other than the fact would I ask such a question. If I was rich in money I would still like to know if you can live from the land,like I said it's a dream. If you want to condemn me for that so be it, , but I'll tell you one thing anything you want to know about me I will speak 100pc the truth, I have no secrets in my life and I wear my heart on my sleeve, in other words its open to anyone. Please forgive me but I'm new to all this.

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First make sure that your wife to be will like the idea of being a farmer's wife,

the Thai wives I know prefer to be a city dwelling, money churning, shopping wife...

First make sure that your wife to be will like the idea of being a farmer's wife,

the Thai wives I know prefer to be a city dwelling, money churning, shopping wife...

First make sure that your wife to be will like the idea of being a farmer's wife,

the Thai wives I know prefer to be a city dwelling, money churning, shopping wife...