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Why does Chalerm even make these statements? "Chalerm believes there are only two scenarios that could lead to a Pheu Thai defeat: Thaksin dies or quits politics."

Didn't Thaksin assert that he was finished with politics? Or, is was this a lie?

A better question is, why is Chalerm allowed to make these statements, given the current structure of government. Surely, Chalerm measured the consequences of making this statement, and he decided to so no matter how agitating it might be.

have tried to get a taxi many times at Klom Thom but they refuse saying the traffic is too bad

will be taking the iphone and filming it from now on

Don't forget the poor fellow who got killed a couple of years ago for arguing with a taxi driver. Probably best to move on to the next taxi...You never know when you'll run into one who's had just one too many yaba pills.

Anyone know where the bus picks up in Phnom Penh, time of departure?

Why don't they wait for the DNA results first, but rush to make a statement again.

So many times they have been proved wrong in the past.

Why should I believe them now?

No need, the deal has been made, to hell with DNA results, not needed they have confessed.

The deal is done. The Myanmar worker's families will be given a large sum of money. Well, large by Myanmar standards.

The real culprit successfully; found an alibi, found a witness, and then found a cheap scapegoat.

Submit DNA and end the speculation.

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Im agree. If He is clean and lawyers want to help and clean him for the murder

he can just submit a dna test and no more needed and the police can keep searching

You mean to say they haven't collected DNA from this guy? The prime suspect? That is real BS. Too easy in LOS for someone like him to pay a few thousand baht to a couple of classmates to say he was with them, and to whomever controls the security camera to alter the footage. Furthermore, he had several days to fabricate all of this. PRODUCE THE DNA, and I'll believe him, no problem. Nice new haircut, too...just saying.

This will definitely increase tourism revenue.....for other countries.

Looks like a few of us may eat humble pie (like me)

looks like the police may have found the correct murderers / not stitched anybody up etc

For that i apologise for doubting them and hope this is the future now

My hat's off to you littlebw, not many have the stuff to make a post like this one, especially on TV. You've earned my respect.

"It is for this reason that DNA samples in the case of the murder of the two Britons will be sent to the FBI forensic investigators because they have the necessary experience and are better equipped and possess an extensive database in order to decode the samples."

Talking about loss of face and admitting incompetence. This is a major breakthrough in the chase of the killer(s).

Agreed. Do they mean the US FBI?

I said near the beginning that I wished they'd ask the Brits to rush in some of their best people to help.

Whatever, this would bring transparency to an investigation that has some people wondering, and the Thais aren't competent to handle this.

Either the FBI or the Yard. Both have state of the art DNA equipment and experience I suppose. The brits were unlikely to be asked for help as they criticised Thai police in handling the case. And the US just said there would be no more sanctions concerning the Tier 3 status. So RTP will want to be a good dog to ask the Americans.

Or the FBI has better facilities?

Meanwhile forensic police from Bangkok joined local forensic police in Surat Thani to collect DNA samples from more than 20 Myanmar workers both male and female rounded up from the vicinity of the crime scene and also their finger prints.

Why would anyone waste time and money taking DNA samples from any women in a murder rape case ?

As for the trousers being on the killer running off..... well................

Because lipstick was found on one of the cigarette butts....keep up.

Of course you can, airlines love customers like you. Hotels also love customers like you. They get to charge you the highest rate possible because you have no other choice. You get to be the first person to get any seats available and cut the que of standby passengers. Just make sure they treat you like a boss.

Absolutely false, and easily debunked with a quick online search.

Just checked online. Nokair has a one way from Udon Thani to Don Mueang for 1100 baht including taxes and fees. You can leave at 1:55 PM but you must call the airline to book that ticket. Also, they have a flight a 9:25 PM that you could book online, same price.

To travel on this flight, please contact airport counter or call 1318. Web booking has already timed out.

Update: I went to South East Pharmacy on Suk Rd. today. No lorazapam. Checked a few others to be sure, confirmed.

OK, you can get it in Hua Hin at several pharmacies, including the G supermarket pharmacy on the part of Soi 88 that connects to soi 94. I got some there last week for my wife.

HHFarang, you were flat out wrong about South East Pharmacy on Suk 15, and I will not be travelling to Hua Hin to check your follow up information.

prescription medications, or is that a prescription medications in your home Country ? [with a Brand name]

​Most medication can be bought over the counter, = same but a different name made locally.. have you gone to a proper Thai Pharmacy ? [NOT some drug store or drug store supermarket where some girl will look and say No have] take your meds and ask the Pharmacist in a proper Thai Pharmacy for the Thai version.

Maybe worth a try + if you can buy would be a fraction of the imported brand named ones

Myself have to take 'prescription medication' for rest of my life.... 11 years ago when I came here 14 days supply at a Hospital was 1,600 baht, found a Thai Pharmacy that sold the same [imported from Switzerland] cost 960 baht, asking after a few months about a Thai Version simple yes have that, No problem with the Thai Version in 10 years, bought another 5 x 14 day supply only last week cost 235 baht per pack.... at that time the Thai Pharmacy was open only in the evenings, both the older husband and wife were both Drs working at hospitals in the day.......

The Thai Pharmacy I have used for a number of years now [open in the day time = easier for me] the older Lady is a retired Dr, her son in his 40's runs the Pharmacy well up on everything.......... Same as my Dr here for years is only open in the evenings as works at a big Hospital in the day + cost a fraction of the price than seeing the same Dr at the Hospital.

Thanks for all the helpful replies. Again, these are medicines that can only be dispensed from a hospital pharmacy, legally that is. My question, as stated in the OP and subject line is "Are government hospitals less expensive than private hospitals, regarding prescriptions". No need to know the name of the medicine, no need to talk about pharmacies. Just a general question..Thank you.

where do you think these hospitals get their supplies from,wholesale pharmacy's,i get many from them all are legal,and are generic 4 of them which without i would be dead.one of which is warfarin so the dose must be spot on.

This post has gotten way off topic. Again, it is not about which drugs/medicines are available at pharmacies, or how expensive they are. It is about the cost difference between government and private hospitals, particularly the medicines they dispense themselves. Please make the following assumptions when replying, or create your own topic for discussion. This post may actually help someone in the future, if it doesn't get muted into oblivion by off topic posts.

1. The medicines in question are only available from hospitals, not private non-hospital pharmacies, because they contain controlled substances. This is a REAL government imposed restriction for some medicines, xanax being one example. If you want to debate this fact, please start another thread.
2. Please do not bring medicines that are available OTC into the discussion. Prevacid, for example.
3. A doctor at a hospital CANNOT give you a script to take to a pharmacy outside the hospital for these controlled medicines.

Thank you.

"Update: I went to South East Pharmacy on Suk Rd. today. No lorazapam. Checked a few others to be sure, confirmed." .......

How was it ?

Air Conditioned , medicine in a cool place ?

Pharmacist that looked like they knew what they were doing ?

thanks

It was fine. Air conditioned, staff spoke good English, they knew exactly what I was looking for.

Why do you guys get these things from hospitals. Most of the drugs mentioned in this thread can be purchased over the counter in many pharmacies at a much lower cost than a hospital charges.

I've bought lorazapam otc in two different pharmacies in Hua Hin as well as Bestatin. If you go to Bangkok once in a while the cheapest (wholesale) pharmacy in the country is South East Pharmacy located on Sukhumvit Road a few steps west of Soi 15. They pretty much have everything that is legal to sell in Thailand and at the lowest prices as they are the importer/wholesale pharmacy that supplies most other pharmacies in the country. I take a lot of expensive meds for asthma and to control my blood pressure so I just go to Bangkok every 3 or 4 months and buy a 4 month supply. Saves me a bundle. They are 30% cheaper there than Hua Hin pharmacies and around 300% cheaper than most hospital pharmacies.

Update: I went to South East Pharmacy on Suk Rd. today. No lorazapam. Checked a few others to be sure, confirmed.

Not sure how anyone but you can answer that without further information.

How about somebody that has gotten prescriptions from a government hospital and a private hospital, duh.

BeStatin 20 mg from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital - 900 baht compared to 90 baht from the government hospital in Sri Racha. A larger number of pills was obtained from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital but even after allowing for that they were still at least 5 - 6 more times expensive than the hospital in Sri Racha. In fact, I doubt you could buy them from a pharmacy for that price.

Alan

Very helpful, exactly the type of info I'm looking for. Thank you.

Why do you guys get these things from hospitals. Most of the drugs mentioned in this thread can be purchased over the counter in many pharmacies at a much lower cost than a hospital charges.

I've bought lorazapam otc in two different pharmacies in Hua Hin as well as Bestatin. If you go to Bangkok once in a while the cheapest (wholesale) pharmacy in the country is South East Pharmacy located on Sukhumvit Road a few steps west of Soi 15. They pretty much have everything that is legal to sell in Thailand and at the lowest prices as they are the importer/wholesale pharmacy that supplies most other pharmacies in the country. I take a lot of expensive meds for asthma and to control my blood pressure so I just go to Bangkok every 3 or 4 months and buy a 4 month supply. Saves me a bundle. They are 30% cheaper there than Hua Hin pharmacies and around 300% cheaper than most hospital pharmacies.

hhfarang, how long ago did you get the lorazapam in BKK?

Only way to know is to go to both hospitals and check. People may be able to tell you their costs if they knew what drug you took but the only answer is to find out yourself.

Reply deleted by OP for reason of common sense.

The OP could Google his prescription medications for the Thai version/name, maybe a Thai Drs has no idea ? or he is the only person in Thailand taking this sort of medication very rare condition ? then there would be no call for the Thai Version that Thai people could afford

There are medicines that contain narcotics that can only be dispensed by hospitals. It's the law here in Thailand. Regardless of your nationality, if a doctor prescribes it, you have to get it from a hospital pharmacy. Valium, Xanax, etc. Prevacid, as another poster mentioned, does not fall into this class of controlled substances.

prescription medications, or is that a prescription medications in your home Country ? [with a Brand name]

​Most medication can be bought over the counter, = same but a different name made locally.. have you gone to a proper Thai Pharmacy ? [NOT some drug store or drug store supermarket where some girl will look and say No have] take your meds and ask the Pharmacist in a proper Thai Pharmacy for the Thai version.

Maybe worth a try + if you can buy would be a fraction of the imported brand named ones

Myself have to take 'prescription medication' for rest of my life.... 11 years ago when I came here 14 days supply at a Hospital was 1,600 baht, found a Thai Pharmacy that sold the same [imported from Switzerland] cost 960 baht, asking after a few months about a Thai Version simple yes have that, No problem with the Thai Version in 10 years, bought another 5 x 14 day supply only last week cost 235 baht per pack.... at that time the Thai Pharmacy was open only in the evenings, both the older husband and wife were both Drs working at hospitals in the day.......

The Thai Pharmacy I have used for a number of years now [open in the day time = easier for me] the older Lady is a retired Dr, her son in his 40's runs the Pharmacy well up on everything.......... Same as my Dr here for years is only open in the evenings as works at a big Hospital in the day + cost a fraction of the price than seeing the same Dr at the Hospital.

Thanks for all the helpful replies. Again, these are medicines that can only be dispensed from a hospital pharmacy, legally that is. My question, as stated in the OP and subject line is "Are government hospitals less expensive than private hospitals, regarding prescriptions". No need to know the name of the medicine, no need to talk about pharmacies. Just a general question..Thank you.

Not sure how anyone but you can answer that without further information.

How about somebody that has gotten prescriptions from a government hospital and a private hospital, duh.

Much cheaper at Government Hospitals in general but if an imported only medication may be expensive anywhere - but you will need to have prescribed by a doctor there and there are cases of false billing known to happen - but even then likely to be cheaper than a private hospital.

They are imported, and I understand there will probably be some savings going to a government hospital. But the hassle, the wait, etc. will it be worth it?

I take two prescription medications that can only be dispensed by a hospital here in Thailand. I've tried Fascinos, they said I need to go to the hospital, by the way. My question is this: Are medications more expensive, or are as expensive in a government hospital compared to a private hospital? I've picked these meds up at Phra Ram 9 before, and I was shocked at the cost. My understanding is that pharmacies are a major income source for both private and public hospitals, so I don't anticipate much of a difference, and I know for a fact it will be a much more pleasant experience going to the private hospital. However, to placate my wife, I've promised to look into it. Anyone know the answer to this general question?

Registering U.S. marriage in Thailand:

First, make an appointment with US Embassy using the appointment system that you can find on their WEB site. Print out appointment confirmation page. Obtain a blank affidavit form (found on their WEB site) and fill out blank affidavit with the appropriate information and add “For the purpose to register my marriage in Thailand, I, <full name>, declare that I married <spouse full name> at <City, State, USA> on <date>.” Do NOT sign the affidavit!

Go to the US Embassy at appointment time/date. You will need to show your US passport at the front door. Need to give them your cell phone and any other electronic devices (key fob, etc). I also gave them my Thai drivers license to go with my belongings to prove they were mine but I don't think that is needed. Go inside to the US citizen services area. Stand in line in front of window 3 for queuing. Hand them your affidavit and the print out of the appointment which they will look at and hand back with a queue number. Then proceed to cashier for payment of affidavit which is $50 USD. They take US Dollar, Thai Baht (1600) or Credit Card. Credit Card will be charged in the US so best to have US Credit Card. They prefer US Cash if possible. After payment, hand affidavit, passport and payment receipt to window 6 and wait in sitting area. I had my marriage certificate with me but they didn't require it. For me, after about 50 minutes, I was told to initial and sign the affidavit which I did in blue ink. I then walked back to the front area and obtained my cell phone and other belongings.

I then turned right out of the Embassy and walked to a translation center. The place I went to charged 400 Baht for each page of translation, 1000 Baht service charge to deliver, process and pick up the affidavit from the Minister of Foreign Affairs and 400 Baht MFA legalization fee for a total of 1898 Baht (with VAT added). They wanted my name and address as shown on my work permit and house book for proper translation purpose. I didn’t have either with me so I told them I would scan them and send the information to them via email. They said they would translate the document in the afternoon and send me it via email for confirmation before sending it to the MFA. Paid the 1898 Baht, got a receipt and left.

Went home and scanned in the Work Permit pages that had my name and the company name. I also scanned in the blue house book page with the Thai address. I cropped the scanned image to just the information required and emailed it to the translation service. The agency sent the affidavit to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and it was returned 3 days later.

If your Amphur is not in an area where they encounter a lot of farang, you should go somewhere that does first. Our Amphur in Isaan didn't know what to do, so we went to Bang Lamung first and got it all stamped official, then headed back up to our home Amphur to record it.

Very good instructions, but I need to add some information I learned on my visit, as things have changed since Visionchaser made the post above.

In order to register your USA marriage in Thailand, you must obtain the affidavit exactly as described above. However, you must also acquire a certified copy of your passport bio page from the US Embassy. This is simply a copy of your US passport bio page with the raised stamp of the US Department of State. This also costs $50, and you should have it done at the same time you acquire the affidavit. Or, you can run back and forth between the translator and Embassy all day, like I did.

The translation service I used charged Bt. 400 per page (2 pages; affidavit and passport copy), Bt. 1000 delivery and return from Minister of Foreign Affairs, and Bt. 400 per page fee for MFA stamp. Total fee from Translation service Bt. 2600. Total fees at US Embassy $100. Honestly, I was quite upset to be charged $100 for notary service at the US Embassy, it was less than one minute work on their part. The Bt. 1000 delivery service for the MFA is money well spent IMO. That's exactly what it costs to take the BTS to Mo Chit, taxi, and toll from Mo chit to Chang Wattaena, round trip - twice. It takes two trips to Chang Wattaena to get this done, by the way. You drop it off at MFA and pick it up two days later, and it's a whole day affair getting there and coming back (for me, anyway).

Next step is to take the certified translation with MFA stamp to the Amphur, Pathum Thani in our case, and register the marriage. I'm sure that will have it's own special surprises, so more to come...